Guest Deadbolt Report post Posted January 12, 2005 With Eugene injured this leaves the Tag Titles in la la land, with William Regal being the only active Champion. Now, if the WWE wants to crown new Tag Team Champions, then what should they do? The best way I think is to strip William Regal and Eugene of the Titles and start a tournament. We have several teams on raw:Chris Jericho & Chris Benoit, Christian & Tyson Tomko, La Resistance, Hussan & Diavari, Tajiri & Rhyno, Hurricane & Rosey. With those six teams, a tournament could work very well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 i think they should drop the tag titles completely from Raw and make it a Smackdown only thing like the cruiserweight title....of course they should just drop the Brand Extension period, but i've gone on long enough about THAT... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 That would be a horrible idea. I remember the days of Smackdown only have the Tag Titles, and they were horrible. Tag matches didn't have a meaning on RAW. It's not like they were working for a goal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 do away with tag teams and drop the dead weight on Raw...PERFECT! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted January 12, 2005 i think they should drop the tag titles completely from Raw and make it a Smackdown only thing like the cruiserweight title....of course they should just drop the Brand Extension period, but i've gone on long enough about THAT... If the brand extension were dropped, almost all the wrestlers you like watching would be off TV and HHH and Taker's TV time and push would be doubled. A lot of wrestlers would also be released and unable to provide for their families, and new talent would almost never even get a chance to debut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 I just don't believe that...not if they continue to run Velocity, Heat, and those other garbage recap shows...it wasn't a problem before the Brand Extension, why is it a problem now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slimm44 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 What do you think they're going to do? Give them back to La Resistance because they are the only credible tag team on Raw Seriously though, they hardly have any solid tag team on Raw. I like that they are building Christian and Tomko. But Hurricane/Rosey is a joke and jobber team. There really isn't a tag division, or women's division on Raw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taker666 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 I just don't believe that...not if they continue to run Velocity, Heat, and those other garbage recap shows...it wasn't a problem before the Brand Extension, why is it a problem now? Well, because they got way more talent now than they did before the band split. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 They should have some wacky-combination of wrestlers, that either out-and-out hate each other or just aren't getting along, win the belts. Like Orton & HHH, or Edge & HBK. /misses Russo //doesn't really Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 they have more talent, sure...do they showcase their talent? no... i see the same guys all the time: HHH HBK Undertaker JBL Eddy Rey Big Show Angle Benoit Jericho Benjamin Orton Batista Kane Edge Cena Carlito Heidenreich Orlando Kenzo maybe a couple others whose names escape me now...keep both shows still, use your bigger names on both shows...throw in a few jobbers to the stars and use Heat, Velocity etc. to pump up newer talent until they're ready for the two bigger shows...plain and simple... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slickster 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 I'd give them to Xian/Tomko since it gives both guys something to do, especially with Xian not being in the IC Title picture at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 What they could do is bischoff does strip the tag titles off of Eugene and Regal and do a Tournament , Unfortunately probably can't do the Finals of it at the Royal Rumble for it may foul up planning, but perhaps the PPV after. If Bischoff wanted to break away from the gray Tweener area he could gurantee that whenever Eugene gets healed up they get a First opportunity rematch at whatever PPV is nearby when Eugene returns... of course the problem with this idea is that Despite what personality shift Eric is in, Face Tweener or Heel, he is Hell Bent on totally Destroying Eugene, because the mentally handicap....Bothers him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Age 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 They should so some crazy tag team league that would rock the house. Two groups of four (on Raw): Group 1 Chris Benoit and Chris Jericho Edge and Christian Rob Conway and Sylvain Grenier Muhammed Hassan and Khosrow Daivari Group 2 Ric Flair and Batista Tajiri and Rhyno William Regal and Eugene Hurricane and Rosey Top two in each group go through, then the winners meet, etc. Winners get some huge ass trophy (that DOESN'T get smashed) and automatically defend it in next year's competition. They also get a Tag Title shot at the next PPV (which is billed as second from top, to the World Title match), gets twenty+ mins and then there is a big presentation and stuff. Doing a group format like this allows them to put more guys over than they ever could. For example, Hurricane and Rosey could beat Flair and Batista, who still go through because they win their other two matches. That way, Hurricane/Rosey gain something (beat Flair/Batista) while Flair and Batista lose nothing. They should also make a big thing out of the tournament, have guys like Triple H going nuts because he can't be a part of it (doesn't have a partner), and just little things like that. Better yet, have a tournament for BOTH shows, with the semi finals taking place (Raw vs SD) at a PPV, as well as the final. Then the winners get money, a trophy, a tag title shot, and maybe a chance to switch brands. As well as this, they should also have a 6-man tag team tournament. Imagine a final like Benoit/Jericho/Shelton vs Eddie/RVD/Rey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted January 12, 2005 That's 20 wrestlers, BL. Of those you listed, four are bonafide top guys: HHH Undertaker JBL HBK Then you have the pet projects: Orton Batista Edge Cena Carlito Benjamin Then you have the upper midcard: Eddy Big Show Angle Benoit Jericho Rey Kane Heidenreich Then you have the bottom feeders: Orlando Kenzo That means you'd have four top guys, and it's a sad state of affairs when JBL is the freshest face among them. The company usually picks one guy and pushes him hard. With the brand extension, they can do two. But of those pet project guys, some of them would end up getting ignored and overlooked. All of them except Carlito and Benjamin are guys they are trying to make main eventers right now, and they can't push that many guys at once and have them all stand out. That leaves Eddy, Show, Angle, Benoit, Jericho, Rey, Kane and Heidenrich to work the OPENING MATCHES and undercard feuds. They would all drop considerably on the card. Borderline guys like RVD, Booker, Christian and Hurricane would be lucky if they ever got on TV at all, and they'd risk a big chance of getting released, sadly. It just wouldn't work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted January 12, 2005 Edge and Christian are not a tag team anymore. Edge destroyed Christian because he was pissed about having to team with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 20 is the same amount of guys they had to work with before the brand extension, all through the 90s and before...I really don't see how going back to the old ways wouldn't work? Even WITH the brand extension it's the SAME guys getting the limelight...what would the difference be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted January 12, 2005 The difference is that guys like Christian would be unemployed, and guys like Angle, Benoit and Jericho would be about where guys like Taijiri, Hurricane and Rosey are on the card right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 I could live without Christian...guys that aren't in the upper echelon could trade jobs back and forth while putting on decent matches and having decent fueds... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted January 12, 2005 So, basically, you're saying you have no problem firing EVERYONE lower than Benoit or Jericho are on the card right now? That's a bold statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 They should have Regal say that he's not giving up the belts without a fight, and tell Bischoff that he's willing to go it alone until Eugene gets better. Give him a few wins in handicap situations (La Rez, heck even do a Triple H/Batista angle where Triple H figures winning the tag belts will help them bond, only to screw themselves in the end and add fuel to Dave's fire) before succumbing to Christian/Tomko or Hassan/Daivari. That way you don't have to vacate the belts, worry about a tournament, and progress Regal's badass Brit character a little bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 again, Loss, I can't see the difference if they were to do it now then before the extension...they had TONS of talent on the roster prior to 2001 and only showcased 25% of it and quite frankly I enjoyed the product the WWE put out then 10 fold over what I have seen the past couple of years... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Age 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 The difference is that guys like Christian would be unemployed, and guys like Angle, Benoit and Jericho would be about where guys like Taijiri, Hurricane and Rosey are on the card right now. I said they are? Flair and Batista don't team anymore, but that didn't stop me putting them in. I don't really want E and C to get back together (yet), but I don't think there'd be any harm in doing it for a one off thing like this. Benoit and Jericho enter as a team so both E and C enter out of a need to beat both guys. They both want gold, as well. They realise their best bet at winning is to team with each other. Simple. Oh and NYR left the door open for a reunion. I can only guess that you didn't watch, Loss? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted January 12, 2005 I think they should get rid of the brand extention as well. Maybe I'm just a bastard, but I don't really care about which wrestlers can feed their families anymore. I mean, what about people like Rodney Mack, Test and A-Train? No one was talking about "feeding their families" back then. They should get rid of tag team wrestling altogether in WWE. It'd be "innovative" just by them getting rid of tag team wrestling, since everyone else does it. I'm with Black Lushus on this one. I wouldn't even care if the shows were focused around The Undertaker and Triple H...because they are right now. Me and Loss disagree a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted January 12, 2005 WCW died in 2001. The entire wrestling business changed. Vince had to come up with a way to employ more wrestlers. He'd essentially be putting tons of talented guys on the street doing this, many of which had the potential to make money for him or save a bad pay-per-view. Getting rid of the split would not see a return to the glory years. Austin, Rock and Foley are gone, and HHH and the Undertaker are washed up. There would be an enormous difference, and all the talented guys would be in positions where they were wrestling 2-minute matches or being squashed by the Undertaker, even MORESO than what you're used to lately, so there would be no chance of hope. They couldn't survive on that model anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted January 12, 2005 I think they should get rid of the brand extention as well. Maybe I'm just a bastard, but I don't really care about which wrestlers can feed their families anymore. I mean, what about people like Rodney Mack, Test and A-Train? No one was talking about "feeding their families" back then. That's because they weren't releasing guys with talent. With the business in a huge slump, there's no reason for talented guys to be starving on the streets all so you can see HHH do two 20-minute promos a week instead of one. They should get rid of tag team wrestling altogether in WWE. It'd be "innovative" just by them getting rid of tag team wrestling, since everyone else does it. Did you watch WCW? At all? Do you remember what happened when they did this? I'm with Black Lushus on this one. I wouldn't even care if the shows were focused around The Undertaker and Triple H...because they are right now. Me and Loss disagree a lot. You'd eliminate any hope of a midcard match saving the show completely. You'd eliminate any possibility of a turnaround or fresh matches. You'd also be begging for competition with a roster full of unsigned talented wrestlers, but sadly, they'd have nowhere to go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 Loss, I totally see where you're comin from, bro...but that was THEN...if he was so concerned about such things, why are the SAME people main eventing...he tried, it didn't work...back to the old drawing board which is get rid of the extension and merge the rosters back together...if not that then he needs to toally reshake the rosters, not just have a draft lottery where only 6 people switched from each show... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 So long as you have undercarders that are to inexperienced to carry their end of a full match, or midcarders you need to give a belt to to help get over, or guys your just not sure what to do with, you can have a credible tag division. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ransome Report post Posted January 13, 2005 With Eugene injured this leaves the Tag Titles in la la land, with William Regal being the only active Champion. Now, if the WWE wants to crown new Tag Team Champions, then what should they do? The best way I think is to strip William Regal and Eugene of the Titles and start a tournament. We have several teams on raw:Chris Jericho & Chris Benoit, Christian & Tyson Tomko, La Resistance, Hussan & Diavari, Tajiri & Rhyno, Hurricane & Rosey. With those six teams, a tournament could work very well Aren't there precedents for these sorts of injuries? Like, shouldn't Regal still defend the titles in singles matches while if his opponent wins, they get to choose who their tag partner will be? At least it would give an opportunity for, say, Muhammad Hussan to pin Regal in a singles match and choose JR as his tag champion partner. A comedic ethnic mismatch ensues....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted January 13, 2005 Just have Regal pick a new tag team partner. I'm sure Rhyno or someone like that could use something to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fook_Theta Report post Posted January 13, 2005 Bring in Cornette to book a tag division, or don't bother. I'd much rather give an excellent team in ability in the future to have a "We're so fucking good we're bringin the titles back!" angle, while stopping the consistant shitting on the belt's history in making stars. Two mid-card belts, one championship belt on Raw. Keep the tag belts on Smackdown, unless it proves to be a good little angle on Raw. It is worth a shot, if it doesn't work out they can always bring them back in a fresh manner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
