Interview with HHH

[Lil' Bitch 0]

*wonders if Haas of Pain is really Jim Cornette

[CanadianChick 0]

Austin did make Jericho look like trash, but it was pretty meaningless when Triple H got done with him.

[Guest Loss]

I want to say this again for clarity.

 

HHH is the reason the wrestling boom is over. He is directly responsible for the decline. It's almost entirely his fault.

[Guest Hass of Pain]

HHH is the reason the wrestling boom is over. He is directly responsible for the decline. It's almost entirely his fault.

 

And I thought it was the cyclical nature that wrestling has always followed. No "boom" can last 7 years, and The Rock and Austin leaving are responsible as well.

 

On to the other thing:

 

I'll say that maybe Chris Jericho should have been given a run, and RVD perhaps at a later date with a strong mouthpiece like Paul Heymen, but I will never believe that Booker T would make a better World Champion than HHH, JBL or anyone.

 

Booker T was on fire around the time WCW folded, but when he had to compete with A-level WWE talent he just doesn't hold up. His stuff on the mic with the Rock was HORRIBLE when he debuted, Goldust carried him and created the illusion of him being entertaining for a while but he just isn't that good on the mic or in the ring in my opinion. He rambles, stumbles over his lines and a lot of times it's hard to even understand what the hell Book is talking about. His subtle, laid back stuff with Eddie is cool but not the type of cool you can draw money with. Every match he's done for the last year is exactly the same, his offense looks stiff and lanky, he doesn't really even have a moveset and the trainwreck of a series he had with John Cena was more than enough to convince me that Booker T isn't a World Title caliber guy.

 

HHH would have made Cena look good. Angle would have made Cena look good. Benoit, Guerrero and even The Big Show could have done it. That's why I don't think Booker T should be first in line when handing out World Title pushes.

 

As for Shelton Benjamin, I can't see how you can blame HHH for his lack of a current push. HHH gave him a base, and the writers haven't been able to build off of it nor has Benjamin been THAT over doing his own thing that it's warranted. He'll get there, but he's growing for now.

[Guest Hass of Pain]

There's a reason Jarrett was never resigned after the monopoly.

Yeah, because he held WWE out for $200,000 to drop the Intercontinental Title to Chyna and Vince McMahon holds grudges.

 

Jarrett went on to become, in my opinion, one hell of a good main event style heel in WCW and really helped get Booker T over at the main event level.

 

Not trying to disagree with everything you say, we just seem to have two very different mindsets and I like a good debate.

[Guest Loss]

HHH is the reason the wrestling boom is over. He is directly responsible for the decline. It's almost entirely his fault.

 

And I thought it was the cyclical nature that wrestling has always followed. No "boom" can last 7 years, and The Rock and Austin leaving are responsible as well.

The only reason wrestling is cyclical is because promoters typically want to milk their top stars past their shelf life because they're afraid to push anyone new. People get tired of them and come back whenever new stars are made. It has nothing to do with time and everything to do with bad booking.

 

The numbers were falling before Austin and Rock left. They've been falling since 2001.

[Guest jumpingbombangel]

I want to say this again for clarity.

 

HHH is the reason the wrestling boom is over. He is directly responsible for the decline. It's almost entirely his fault.

I'll drink to that.

[Guest Hass of Pain]

HHH is the reason the wrestling boom is over. He is directly responsible for the decline. It's almost entirely his fault.

 

A boom can't last for eight years. It goes against the very concept of the boom.

 

Look at the people who find wrestling during a boom, they are typically the people who are never looking to be long time fans in the first place. They are people who watch programming that is trendy, hot and entertaining. They are the dopes who you see crotch chopping and doing the Austin middle finger salute in the hallways at your high school, and they have very short attention spans and get bored easily.

 

These people turn to wrestling because the sport has struck gold with a concept like Goldberg, Austin, DX or the nWo. These things aren't created to bring fans in per say, they just happen to work so well that fans come in by the millions. When these concepts start to tire. promoters try to artificially strike gold again, but are unsuccessful because these concepts taking on a life of their own is something that tends to have to happen naturally. The public can't be force fed something it doesn't want.

 

Wrestling is a passion for some, and a trend for most. For the same reason no television show can really last longer than six or seven seasons, wrestlings popularity has to fall after the booms. On the television show as well as wrestling, you can go in any storyline direction you want or add as many new characters as you wish, but it's the vibe of the show, not it's performers, that casual fans grow tired of.

 

The reason wrestling lost popularity is because it was bound to. The public turned to other things. No new character being pushed or fresh storylines would have changed that in my opinion.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Man, HHH works hard over the past 2 months with Batista and gets me to start liking him again and then this. I think part of the blame should go to the interviewers who keep asking him the same question, so he has the same, rehearsed, answer for everything. If the interviewers were better, they'd know his answers and then bring up a counter to it. As is, they were feeding him the questions. But as bad as he is, his fans are so much worse.

 

HHH didn't put anyone over last year. For HHH to put someone over, he'd have to be under them. How does this concept get lost on people? There wasn't a single point during the year when that happened - he held on to the top spot on RAW like Steph holds on to the drumsticks on thanksgiving.

[Murmuring Beast 0]

WWE is boring. I don't know who's to blame.

[Guest JMA]

I'm a little disappointed by the fact that I knew almost exactly the questions Triple H would be asked and how he would respond to them. The Montreal stuff was a very Clique-esque answer, but what really surprised me was Hunter saying that Flair was putting Foley over in his book. That's some incredibly twisted logic there.

 

Getting back to Montreal, have any WWE wrestlers besides Foley ever publicly stated that they believe Vince made the wrong decision?

[Guest JMA]

I want to say this again for clarity.

 

HHH is the reason the wrestling boom is over. He is directly responsible for the decline. It's almost entirely his fault.

Now THAT'S a signature worthy quote.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

I think HHH competes with the XFL for the fall of the WWE.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

I think HHH competes with the XFL for the fall of the WWE.

How is the XFL responsible for the fall of WWE? I didn't know that the Los Angeles Xtreme was holding down talents as well.

[Guest netslob]

I want to say this again for clarity.

 

HHH is the reason the wrestling boom is over. He is directly responsible for the decline. It's almost entirely his fault.

Now THAT'S a signature worthy quote.

no, your sig is just fine as is. good quote tho. it's good because it's true.

[Guest JMA]

I want to say this again for clarity.

 

HHH is the reason the wrestling boom is over. He is directly responsible for the decline. It's almost entirely his fault.

Now THAT'S a signature worthy quote.

no, your sig is just fine as is. good quote tho. it's good because it's true.

Thanks. And I agree regarding the quote.

[Guest sek69]

Vince was too busy trying to get the XFL to work that he wasn't paying attention to the WWF.

 

I think HHH provides these interviewers with WWE-approved questions. I have yet to see anyone ask him stuff that he doesn't have a WWE Approved Stock Answer for. It's always the same thing: The net is full of 12 year olds, other people lack the skills to get over, and he really likes the buisness. That's all you ever get out of him.

 

Just once I'd like someone to point out to him that one of the biggest pops of that year is when they did the Dusty Finsh with him and Y2J. And mention that what causes other wrestlers to not connect with the crowd is after months of burial, guys start to go through the motions and not give a shit anymore.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

When the XFL bombed it officially became "uncool" to be a fan of the WWE. No one wants to be associated with a failure.

[Guest sek69]

When the XFL bombed it officially became "uncool" to be a fan of the WWE. No one wants to be associated with a failure.

I think every show on ESPN had someone laughing at Vince for trying to get into football. I think that had a big effect on killing off the trendy part of wrestling's audience.

[Guest jumpingbombangel]

When the XFL bombed it officially became "uncool" to be a fan of the WWE.  No one wants to be associated with a failure.

I think every show on ESPN had someone laughing at Vince for trying to get into football. I think that had a big effect on killing off the trendy part of wrestling's audience.

Word that. Remember how difficult it was to explain off the XFL when wrestling was still at its peak? I remember being so caught up in WWF at the time that I watched XFL a few times with dad and brothers (huge football fans) and feeling pretty embarrased.

[iggymcfly 0]

No Trips, you fool. You were pushed to the moon and you STILL wasn't over until Mick Foley made you a star. You beat Austin, you beat Rock, you beat Show, you beat McMahon, you were made THE TOP GUY. You were given Stephanie McMahon as a valet, and yet you STILL weren't as over as RVD in 2001, and Booker T in 2002. NOT. EVEN. CLOSE. And YOU had already been in the company 4 years. They'd been there for less than ONE year. Triple H, you got over because they decided they were going to MAKE you a star, even if killed them. RVD and Booker were on the CUSP of stardom, without the office ever giving them fuck. You went and ruined it.

I think Stephanie's dog was at one point as over as Booker T in 2002. No one ever gave a shit about him at all, and after Goldust left, he wasn't even getting cheers until he got to leech off of HHH's heat. HHH did everything he could to put him over other than giving him the title, and if he had won the title at that time, it would have just destroyed the credibility of the belt anyway. Booker has never really been over at any point in his WWE run.

 

I will agree that RVD was over enough to be champ at one point, but he wasn't held down by HHH. When he needed the title was at Royal Rumble 2002 or at the latest, Summerslam. By the time he faced HHH, he'd lost too much heat to gain much from a title win.

[Guest wrestlingbs]

Mick Foley is a glorified stuntman?

 

Way to bite the hand that fed him. Foley was the MAIN reason Trips looked so good in 2000, giving him everything and making him look like the biggest uber-heel the WWF had. It's funny because looking back I always thought Foley made a mistake in giving hunter so much. Guess I was right.

[Guest wrestlingbs]

Mick Foley is a glorified stuntman?

 

Way to bite the hand that fed him. Foley was the MAIN reason Trips looked so good in 2000, giving him everything and making him look like the biggest uber-heel the WWF had. It's funny because looking back I always thought Foley made a mistake in giving hunter so much. Guess I was right.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

I honestly don't think HHH fully comprehends the meaning of "putting someone over". That goes for how he became a big star, and how no one under him has.

[alfdogg 0]

Man, do we have some Booker T haters in this thread.

[TheFranchise 0]

Hmmm.... That was an interview from HHHonk that didn't TOTALLY annoy me. Some things in there I personally feel that he had a point on, like the Bret Hart situation, but that's neither here nor there.

 

Brison

Actually, this is an interview I 100% agree with him on.

 

Which is strange, because he's starting to make fans of him out of us all over again.

 

You all don't want to believe it...

[Guest MissMattitude]

What with The Rock being accused of being as bad as Triple H for putting people over (which is ludicrous), I have two words for you.

 

The Hurricane.

 

The Rocks a heel, has one of the funniest confrontations I have ever seen with The Hurricane and later lets The Hurricane get a clean win over him, making The Hurricane look fantastic.

 

A week later, Triple H squashes any chance of building on it, by making The Hurricane look weak as shit.

 

Now tell me who the real team player is.

[Guest jumpingbombangel]

Hmmm.... That was an interview from HHHonk that didn't TOTALLY annoy me. Some things in there I personally feel that he had a point on, like the Bret Hart situation, but that's neither here nor there.

 

Brison

Actually, this is an interview I 100% agree with him on.

 

Which is strange, because he's starting to make fans of him out of us all over again.

 

You all don't want to believe it...

Oh, man, I take this as a facetious comment, but still...

 

I don't think I could ever be a fan of HHH. I never really was. I briefly enjoyed his time in DX underneath (no pun intended) HBK, but after HBK left and HHH and Chyna were leaders of the team, DX quickly became stale and annoying.

 

HHH has very little charisma to attract me, which is probably why he stays a heel all the time. Big thing about him...he likes politics and plays them well...even better than he wrestles. He knows what friends to have and which people to align himself. If HHH got by on just psychology and in-ring ability, he'd be focused on about as much as Booker T.

 

Granted, HHH doesn't come off as the total jagoff that Randy Orton comes across as, but honestly, I don't see how anyone could be a fan of HHH in any way these days. There are so many better wrestlers out there that are less willing to use the business so selfishly.

 

Then again I suppose some people will just eat whatever meal is set down in front of them.

[Dark Age 0]

I think Stephanie's dog was at one point as over as Booker T in 2002. No one ever gave a shit about him at all, and after Goldust left, he wasn't even getting cheers until he got to leech off of HHH's heat. HHH did everything he could to put him over other than giving him the title, and if he had won the title at that time, it would have just destroyed the credibility of the belt anyway. Booker has never really been over at any point in his WWE run.

 

I will agree that RVD was over enough to be champ at one point, but he wasn't held down by HHH. When he needed the title was at Royal Rumble 2002 or at the latest, Summerslam. By the time he faced HHH, he'd lost too much heat to gain much from a title win.

My God you are an idiot. Please just shut up because you don't have a clu eabout ANYTHING. You prved that when you said Rock and Eddie Guerrero don't have good chemistry, when yuo said Triple H vs Shawn Michaels was a ***** match and the best WWE match this decade, and when you said Undertaker was a better team player than the Rock. SERIOUSLY, just SHUT UP. You are a fool.

 

"Stephanie's dog was as over as Booker T in 2002"

 

NO! Seriously, be quiet. You're embarrassing yourself. This is a BULLSHIT coment served only to get attention - then, when you GET the attention (from me), you'll call foul play and start whining and making even MORE of your shitty little comments.

 

No one ever gave a shit about him at all

 

I guess I've just imagined Booker's entire career.

 

and after Goldust left, he wasn't even getting cheers until he got to leech off of HHH's heat.

 

Quite possibly the STUPIDEST comment I've ever heard you make, which is damn sure saying something. For a start, by the time the Helmsley feud came around, Booker's heat was less than it was a couple of months earlier. His peak was the fall of 2002. And the space between his break up with Goldust (which didn't even last) and his feud with Triple H was about 3 weeks, you moron. If Goldust was more over than Booker, why was I watching SS02 the other day and hearing chants of "We Want Booker" while Goldust was being beaten on? Why wasn't it "Lets Go Goldust"? Booker T was the most over face on Raw (RVD, at times, the exception) for close to a year, up until his World Title rematch with Triple H. THE FEUD WITH TRIPLE H KILLED HIS HEAT! He didn't gain ANYTHING from it, so for you to claim otherwise is absurd.

 

HHH did everything he could to put him over other than giving him the title, and if he had won the title at that time, it would have just destroyed the credibility of the belt anyway. Booker has never really been over at any point in his WWE run.

 

I don't know whether you're a troll, a gimmick or just a complete fucking putz, but you are, without a doubt, the WORST poster I've ever seen on these forums. WHAT did Triple H do to put him over? Please... tell me. Job in a meaningless little tag match? Beat him completely clean at WRESTLEMANIA? Make Booker seem below him? Triple H did SHIT for Booker's career. He helped NOTHING. The feud achieved NOTHING. It did NOTHING for NO ONE. It served NO purpose.

 

How on EARTH would it have destroyed the credibility of the title? Oh wait - IT WOULDN'T, that's just you being a shithead yet again. But, maybe you're right. Who'd want Booker Vs. Jericho for the title when you can have Nash Vs. Triple H?

 

Your last comment is completely false, yet again.

 

Oh, of course, the latest for RVD was SummerSlam. A month before Triple H faced him. That way, we can rid any blame of Hunter.

[AlwaysPissedOff 0]

What with The Rock being accused of being as bad as Triple H for putting people over (which is ludicrous), I have two words for you.

 

The Hurricane.

 

The Rocks a heel, has one of the funniest confrontations I have ever seen with The Hurricane and later lets The Hurricane get a clean win over him, making The Hurricane look fantastic.

 

A week later, Triple H squashes any chance of building on it, by making The Hurricane look weak as shit.

 

Now tell me who the real team player is.

Why do people have selective memory about this match? It seems like everyone remembers Hurricane winning, but never the circumstances behind it like:

 

- Hurricane getting the fluke roll-up because Austin had distracted Rock(same thing as HHH's "clean" job to Benjamin because he was distracted, as well).

 

- Hurricane being virtually invisible after getting the pin and the WWE not even playing his music.

 

and finally...

 

- Rock stomping the living shit out of Hurricane the next week.

 

Other than the backstage stuff, never at any point did Rock make it look like Helms was anything more than a comedy jobber.