WWE's Tape Library

[spman 0]

I should have saved them, but I know there is several peoples personal cameras that have caught the fall from several different viewpoints including the rafters.

 

Yeah, actually now that you mention it, I do somewhat remember a few local news broadcasts mentioning it, and airing what appeared to be footage shot by a fan with a handheld camera. I do believe though that the very instant (A few seconds before Owen actually hit the ground) WWE knew something was wrong, they killed most of the lights, so even the live crowd didn't get to see a whole lot.

[Slickster 0]

Fan photographs show that the lights were on when the EMTs were working on him, so I don't know if that's the case.

 

 

And Fook_Theta, WWE has shown that they have on file the pyro/mic tests of WM6 and WM9 on file as well as old announcer audition tapes, so I really think they could have everything.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

I'm 99.9% sure they had a camera on Owen. What else would they do, wait 3 seconds before he was supposed to descend and then throw a camera on to him? If you watch close, you can always see that a camera guy will turn to the ramp a good 10 seconds before someone does a run in that they're going to show. Why wouldn't they have a camera on Owen at the time? Plus, with him being so high up, they'd need more time to focus and get stable.

Because the Blue Blazer character was meant to be a comedic goofball, and so nobody would expect the entrance he was planned to do, hence the cameras wouldn't catch the beginnings of it.

 

Once more, and hopefully for the last time, there is no footage of Owen falling.

[Guest LooneyTune]

"Video of Owens falling existing" myth will never die, just like the "WM III really did draw 93,1XX people at Pontiac Silverdome" myth.

[Jericholic82 0]

I'm picturing the WWE Tape Library set up like a regular library...everything transferred to DVD by now.  A periodic system set up to catalog everything.

 

...and Stacy dressed like Ms. Hancock sitting at the reception desk.

You can have her, I'd rather live in the vault with all that glorious footage.

LMAO

 

BEST COMMENT EVER

 

 

Im just picturing someone living in the vault, hugging the tapes as they sleep

[Jericholic82 0]

speaking of Owen, Im sure they kept the rest of over the edge 99 on tape right? Thats likely the rarest video out there, only held by tape traders who taped it themselves and perhaps in the wwe vault. I doubt anything from that ppv will ever be shown (however wwf superstars that aired the next wwek, I have it on tape and they showed clips of the owen tribute, as well as updated the viwers with still shots as to the results of the ppv.

 

 

weirder than that, I live on the west coast so heat is tape delayed here, thus at 7pm pst (which was like two hours after owen fell) heat aired. I watched it , thinking myabe theyd tell usa to put updates on the bottom of the screen, as I had heard about the fall and death by looking up live reports of the ppv online.

[Guest Fook_Theta]

Here is the website I was talking about.

[MillenniumMan831 0]

If anyone has ever seen Best of WWF Volume 19 or Inside the WWF, they did show the tape library . . . of course this is from 1989 and 1994 respectively so it probably looks very different then it did 16 or even 11 years ago. Basically, it looked like a mini-warehouse with shelves almost up to the ceiling. Each tape was individually protected w/ oversized black, plastic cases. Nothing too interesting except for the fact that the the shelves actually shift around w/ the flick of a switch.

[MillenniumMan831 0]

Here is the website I was talking about.

It's been almost 6 years now, and it's still saddening and even a little sickening as well.

[Jericholic82 0]

wow that site actually gives you some real prespective on how far he fell. But boy did those pics give me the chills

 

 

I also have some paper clippings from my local paper that I keep in my room.

 

I couldnt even sleep that night when it happened

[Slickster 0]

If anyone has ever seen Best of WWF Volume 19 or Inside the WWF, they did show the tape library . . . of course this is from 1989 and 1994 respectively so it probably looks very different then it did 16 or even 11 years ago.  Basically, it looked like a mini-warehouse with shelves almost up to the ceiling.  Each tape was individually protected w/ oversized black, plastic cases.  Nothing too interesting except for the fact that the the shelves actually shift around w/ the flick of a switch.

Imagine converting all that to DVD.

[Slickster 0]

If anyone has ever seen Best of WWF Volume 19 or Inside the WWF, they did show the tape library . . . of course this is from 1989 and 1994 respectively so it probably looks very different then it did 16 or even 11 years ago.  Basically, it looked like a mini-warehouse with shelves almost up to the ceiling.  Each tape was individually protected w/ oversized black, plastic cases.  Nothing too interesting except for the fact that the the shelves actually shift around w/ the flick of a switch.

Imagine converting all that to DVD.

[MillenniumMan831 0]

^^^ I wouldn't mind that job . . . just have to make sure you don't get any butter from the popcorn on the tapes by accident.

[Guest sek69]

Considering how paranoid Vince is, I find it hard to believe he doesn't have a copy of Owen's fall in a personal vault for safekeeping. I'm sure any copies that may have normally been kept in the WWF/E archives were destroyed but I just don't see Vince completely destroying all copies.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

There are no copies of it. It doesn't exist.

[Guest sek69]

There are no copies of it. It doesn't exist.

No offense, but how do you know that for sure?

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

There are no copies of it. It doesn't exist.

No offense, but how do you know that for sure?

Right back at you.

[Guest sek69]

OMG BURN~!

 

Seriously, you seem so positive that you're right I'm just wondering where you base this confidence from. Did you get a tour of WWF headquarters or something?

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

OMG BURN~!

 

Seriously, you seem so positive that you're right I'm just wondering where you base this confidence from. Did you get a tour of WWF headquarters or something?

If the footage existed, it would have leaked out by now. It's just simple. Something like this just could not be kept quiet for this long. If it was on tape, Owen's widow would have demanded it as part of her lawsuit, simply because it would have the potential to strengthen her case, due to it being actuall footage of her husband falling to his death, and would have shown what Owen was doing while readying for the stunt. Not to mention that legit talk of it, and not just rumors, would have surfaced ages ago. It doesn't exist.

[Guest MikeSC]

OMG BURN~!

 

Seriously, you seem so positive that you're right I'm just wondering where you base this confidence from. Did you get a tour of WWF headquarters or something?

Vince wants neither the negative pub or the possible evidence against him.

-=Mike

[Guest sek69]

So because it hasen't been leaked, it doesn't exist. Interesting logic.

 

It's also just as likely Vince got rid of all the copies in the offical video vault, kept a copy for himself and when the Hart lawyers asked for the video he could say there's none in the vault and they can come and look if they want to.

 

I'm not saying that's what happend, but until one of us gets to search Vince's house and all safe deposit boxes (and I'm sure you'd find a lot more than an Owen video) no one will really know for sure.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

So because it hasen't been leaked, it doesn't exist. Interesting logic.

Did you even bother reading what I wrote, or were you busy coming up up with that one-line retort ?

 

As MikeSC pointed out, if the footage ever existed in the first place, it's just too much of a risk to Vince to let it survive.

[alfdogg 0]

If you just go into Kazaa and type "wwe" or "wwf" you'll see titles that say "OWEN HEART DIES" and such.

 

I didn't download any of them, so I don't know if that's actually what they are.

 

EDIT: I see that was already touched on earlier.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

None of the Kazaa videos are of Owen Hart falling. If they were, it would have been posted on boards such as this one ages ago.

[Guest MikeSC]

So because it hasen't been leaked, it doesn't exist. Interesting logic.

 

It's also just as likely Vince got rid of all the copies in the offical video vault, kept a copy for himself and when the Hart lawyers asked for the video he could say there's none in the vault and they can come and look if they want to.

 

I'm not saying that's what happend, but until one of us gets to search Vince's house and all safe deposit boxes (and I'm sure you'd find a lot more than an Owen video) no one will really know for sure.

How many copies do you think EVER existed? Do you think Vince just made TONS of copies of him falling?

 

Heck no. Every camera in the arena didn't focus on Owen's fall, which already limits the number of copies nicely.

 

A man DIED in a WWF ring. Vince is a businessman and FULLY recognized the potential problems facing him. He had to fear a wrongful death suit and a major lawsuit from Owen's family.

 

Logic indicates that Vince wouldn't keep it. NOTHING is kept a secret in the WWE. You REALLY think a disgruntled employee (Vince has fired plenty of people since 1999) wouldn't have managed to leak it over the last 4 1/2 years?

 

I'll say that a company that is thoroughly incapable of preventing leaks wouldn't be able to prevent THIS leak, either.

-=Mike

[Guest sek69]

It just makes sense that at least one camera would be trained on Owen because he was supposed to make an entrance.

 

You'd also think the video would show that the rigging broke and that it wasn't the result of some nefarious doings on the WWF's part.

 

And I'm sure there's things that have gone on in the WWF that we've never heard about, and probably never will. Vince may have some disgruntled employees but there's also lots that would take a bullet for him too.

 

Again, I'm not saying there even is video but to dismiss the possiblity out of hand just because nothing was leaked is silly.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

You'd also think the video would show that the rigging broke and that it wasn't the result of some nefarious doings on the WWF's part.

If it showed that, Vince would have whipped it out the instant the lawsuit was filed against the WWF, to prove they were not at fault.

[Guest MikeSC]

It just makes sense that at least one camera would be trained on Owen because he was supposed to make an entrance.

Yes, at least one copy DID exist. According to Martha, who has no reason to lie, SHE was given it.

 

Vince didn't have TIME to make copies. He had to eliminate "Evidence" as quickly as humanly possible.

You'd also think the video would show that the rigging broke and that it wasn't the result of some nefarious doings on the WWF's part.

I can pretty well guarantee it wouldn't. A camera wouldn't be FOCUSING on the harness or the release mechanism. It would make no sense from a purely production point of view.

And I'm sure there's things that have gone on in  the WWF that we've never heard about, and probably never will. Vince may have some disgruntled employees but there's also lots that would take a bullet for him too.

Yes, there are. But you have a company where they have been TONS of firings over the past four or 5 years. Not ONE has even implied that Vince has a copy of the tape.

 

Not a single one.

 

There isn't even the tiniest shred of evidence that Vince has it.

 

The only thing we can even remotely claim to know is that the ONLY person on Earth with a copy of it --- is Martha Hart.

Again, I'm not saying there even is video but to dismiss the possiblity out of hand just because nothing was leaked is silly.

Sek, if a company has leaks over everything --- does it not make a lot of sense that something like this would leak as well?

-=Mike

[Guest sek69]

What's to say Martha wasn't given a copy? Would the WWF just hand over a master from one of their PPV events, regardless of what was showed? I'm sure making copies would be no thing with the equipment the WWF has.

 

Besides, we've gone from "OMG THERE ARE NO COPIES~!" to "there was one copy and Martha Hart has it" which just goes to show that we (as in anyone not Vince or Martha Hart) will never know for sure.

[Guest MikeSC]

What's to say Martha wasn't given a copy? I'm sure making copies would be no thing with the equipment the WWF has.

She SAYS she was given the ONLY copy of it. Martha has said she has it.

Would the WWF just hand over a master from one of their PPV events, regardless of what was showed?

Yes, I think they would.

 

And that is assuming that Martha IS telling the truth.

Besides, we've gone from "OMG THERE ARE NO COPIES~!" to "there was one copy and Martha Hart has it" which just goes to show that we (as in anyone not Vince or Martha Hart) will never know for sure.

Martha claims to have one.

 

Nobody can corroborate her story.

 

However, we can say that people have tried to dig up a copy of the tape and NOBODY has pulled it off.

 

Nobody.

-=Mike