SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted March 5, 2005 Republicans need someone like Al Franken! He's always right, and when he's making shit up, it's satire, but when the other guys make things up, they're lying! Come on over Al. We WANT you. BAD. Al Franken is PJ O'Rourke for the left, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. P.J. O'Rourke is actually funny so I don't know what you're talking about. Al Franken wrote for Saturday Night Live back when it was actually good, so I don't know what YOU'RE talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted March 5, 2005 He wrote Stuart Saves His Family. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 He wrote Stuart Saves His Family. Nobody's perfect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 6, 2005 Republicans need someone like Al Franken! He's always right, and when he's making shit up, it's satire, but when the other guys make things up, they're lying! Come on over Al. We WANT you. BAD. Al Franken is PJ O'Rourke for the left, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. P.J. O'Rourke is actually funny so I don't know what you're talking about. Al Franken wrote for Saturday Night Live back when it was actually good, so I don't know what YOU'RE talking about. It wasn't that good. And it CLEARLY had to be a team effort, because he hasn't written a funny thing since. I don't think anyone actually gives Ann Coulter any credibility. And IMO, Sean Hannity is just a shill for the Republican Party. Have you ever heard the man criticize President Bush even once? Frankly, I think if some of the things Bush is doing had been done by Bill Clinton, people like Hannity would have raked him over the coals...but since it's a Republican president, he can do no wrong. And Bush gets raked over the coals over a non-crime like the Plame incident, while Clinton is lionized for being impeached due to committing perjury. Life ain't always fair, is it? Don't sit there and gripe that Bush gets a "Free pass" from conservatives (even Rush has gone off on his immigration policy) and pretend that this is a one-sided thing. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 Republicans need someone like Al Franken! He's always right, and when he's making shit up, it's satire, but when the other guys make things up, they're lying! Come on over Al. We WANT you. BAD. Al Franken is PJ O'Rourke for the left, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. P.J. O'Rourke is actually funny so I don't know what you're talking about. Al Franken wrote for Saturday Night Live back when it was actually good, so I don't know what YOU'RE talking about. It wasn't that good. And it CLEARLY had to be a team effort, because he hasn't written a funny thing since. I read Rush Limbaugh Is A Big Fat Idiot at the bookstore this afternoon. It was basically what I expected: condemning ad hominem attacks to Democrats as tasteless and unfair, then making ad hominem attacks at Rush because "it's just satire, come on." By the way, what would happen if someone wrote a book called Jesse Jackson Is A Big Black Idiot? See also: Michael Moore, Stupid White Men and a book called Stupid Black Women. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 6, 2005 I stick Franken in the same boat as Bill Maher --- somebody who was kinda funny once, but who is now simply bitter and batshit insane. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 Yeah I remember when Bill Maher was funny too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 6, 2005 Yeah I remember when Bill Maher was funny too Did you catch his show with Ward Churchill? Nice to see Maher become openly anti-America. -=Mike ...If Maher hates us, we must be good... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUTT 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 Maher is one of those guys who I'll often find myself agreeing with (especially when he talks about the media and their "political correctness") but then he'll say something so incredibly fucking stupid that I'll be ashamed to have agreed with him before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 I sold my first copy of the Ann Coulter book at work yesterday. I had to come home and scrub with hot water and soap immediately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 Republicans need someone like Al Franken! He's always right, and when he's making shit up, it's satire, but when the other guys make things up, they're lying! Come on over Al. We WANT you. BAD. Al Franken is PJ O'Rourke for the left, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. P.J. O'Rourke is actually funny so I don't know what you're talking about. He's kind of funny but the constant small-government one-liners make it feel like he's just riffing on all of Ronald Reagan's best zingers. Fine then, Franken is Dennis Miller for the left. How's that sound for ya? There's another guy who has been a trainwreck of a comedian since he got political. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hektik 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 Yeah I remember when Bill Maher was funny too Did you catch his show with Ward Churchill? Nice to see Maher become openly anti-America. -=Mike ...If Maher hates us, we must be good... How is Maher Anti-American? He said he didn't agree with Churchill's statement because you can't blame the citizens of this country for bad things the government has done in the past. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 6, 2005 Yeah I remember when Bill Maher was funny too Did you catch his show with Ward Churchill? Nice to see Maher become openly anti-America. -=Mike ...If Maher hates us, we must be good... How is Maher Anti-American? He said he didn't agree with Churchill's statement because you can't blame the citizens of this country for bad things the government has done in the past. Hmm. Interesting. First, he says Churchill has been "Dixie-chicked" because of his views. He goes on and on about the "blood" we have on our hands when it comes to Indians, slavery, Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, the Iraqi sanctions, etc. He unleashed THIS gem: "I don't understand how you can compare the passive aggressive... We're lazy and arrogant and greedy and myopic, and all those things cause some misery around the world. But Eichmann was proactively killing people". We get: "Don't you think there are reasons why they hate us and they're valid....?" asked to a brother of a 9/11 victim. Maher has suggested having a "Why they hate us" display put up at Ground Zero. I can't see how anybody can mistake that for anti-American sentiments. -=Mike ...Maher knows he has no career without appealing to the psychotic fringe left... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hektik 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 First, he says Churchill has been "Dixie-chicked" because of his views. What do you think "Dixie chicked" means? He goes on and on about the "blood" we have on our hands when it comes to Indians, slavery, Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, the Iraqi sanctions, etc America does not have blood on its hands? He never said if it was right or wrong, he just said America has blood on its hands. He unleashed THIS gem: "I don't understand how you can compare the passive aggressive... We're lazy and arrogant and greedy and myopic, and all those things cause some misery around the world. But Eichmann was proactively killing people". He said this to defend this country. Churchill was saying the people in the WTC helped hurt people and Maher said no. Turning a blind eye to the world does not make you responsible for their problems. We get: "Don't you think there are reasons why they hate us and they're valid....?" asked to a brother of a 9/11 victim. That was asked as a valid question. Maher has suggested having a "Why they hate us" display put up at Ground Zero. Why shouldn't there be museums looking at every angle of why 9/11 happened. Asking "Why they hate us" does not make you anti-American. It is taking a honest look in the mirror. How can Bill Maher be Anti-American when he has said he will "defend western civilization" because he belives it is "better than anything else in the world." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 In Franken's defence- Why Not Me is hilarious. And he's written/been a featured player on SNL for a long time so I don't know which era you're referring to Robot Jerk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 6, 2005 First, he says Churchill has been "Dixie-chicked" because of his views. What do you think "Dixie chicked" means? What he's bitching about is that a man's words --- as they would in ANY walk of life --- are being used against him. It's not like Ward only made that ONE asinine comment. He has volumes of asinine comments that demonstrate he should not be in charge of shaping kids' minds. In this case, he means that people are being mean because he criticized America --- ignoring that Ward was spouting hate and nothing more. He goes on and on about the "blood" we have on our hands when it comes to Indians, slavery, Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, the Iraqi sanctions, etc America does not have blood on its hands? He never said if it was right or wrong, he just said America has blood on its hands. He was defending the 9/11 attacks based on that. He unleashed THIS gem: "I don't understand how you can compare the passive aggressive... We're lazy and arrogant and greedy and myopic, and all those things cause some misery around the world. But Eichmann was proactively killing people". He said this to defend this country. Churchill was saying the people in the WTC helped hurt people and Maher said no. Turning a blind eye to the world does not make you responsible for their problems. No, he's flat-out saying they DESERVED what they got. When Maher's horrible show on ABC got turfed because nobody watched it, the man lost his mind. We get: "Don't you think there are reasons why they hate us and they're valid....?" asked to a brother of a 9/11 victim. That was asked as a valid question. Bullshit. It was asked to be a dick TO A MAN WHOSE BROTHER WAS REFERRED TO AS AN "EICHMANN" BY THAT SACK OF SHIT. Maher has suggested having a "Why they hate us" display put up at Ground Zero. Why shouldn't there be museums looking at every angle of why 9/11 happened. Asking "Why they hate us" does not make you anti-American. It is taking a honest look in the mirror. Not least of which, because NONE of the reasons Maher listed are why they hate us. How can Bill Maher be Anti-American when he has said he will "defend western civilization" because he belives it is "better than anything else in the world." I can say I love modern liberalism. I can be lying about that. Maher is lying about his love of America. The man is a useless whore who has ceased being amusing years earlier. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CheesalaIsGood 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 ^ This is the greatest post I have ever seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hektik 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 He unleashed THIS gem: "I don't understand how you can compare the passive aggressive... We're lazy and arrogant and greedy and myopic, and all those things cause some misery around the world. But Eichmann was proactively killing people". He said this to defend this country. Churchill was saying the people in the WTC helped hurt people and Maher said no. Turning a blind eye to the world does not make you responsible for their problems. No, he's flat-out saying they DESERVED what they got. When Maher's horrible show on ABC got turfed because nobody watched it, the man lost his mind. He has never said the DESRVED what they got and has never defended the 9/11 attacks. Bullshit. It was asked to be a dick TO A MAN WHOSE BROTHER WAS REFERRED TO AS AN "EICHMANN" BY THAT SACK OF SHIT. In the interview you can see that he is sympathetic to him throughout segment. Not least of which, because NONE of the reasons Maher listed are why they hate us. "why they hate us" is something Maher came up with over two years ago. It was in his book When You Ride Alone You Ride With Bin Laden and later made it into a segment in his stand up act. That is where he goes into detail about it. Maher is lying about his love of America. You can tell if someone is loves their country or not? The man is a useless whore who has ceased being amusing years earlier. That is not true. His "New Rules" last year on the protesters at the RNC was the funniest thing I've seen on TV in a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 6, 2005 Then you are easily amused. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2005 Then you are easily amused. -=Mike Thank you for being the barometer of what is and isn't amusing/funny in today's world. Since you are so hell-bent on convincing everyone Mahr isn't funny and is "useless" or whatever buzzword you would like to throw out, why don't you call his show this week when he is actively trying to get conservative voices for the show. Since you obviously watch the show frequently enough to know that "Mahr is never funny" Claiming Mahr is "unamerican" is about original as trying make the argument that Rush is "fair with Bush" oh wait, you tried that one out for size as well. I mean jesus christ, is this Sept. 12th 2001 all over again? You are throwing around the word "unamerican" on someone who is questioning america's history of foreign policy and it's effect on the global community, as if it shouldn't be up for debate or something!?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2005 Patriotically Correct is the new PC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 7, 2005 Then you are easily amused. -=Mike Thank you for being the barometer of what is and isn't amusing/funny in today's world. Since you are so hell-bent on convincing everyone Mahr isn't funny and is "useless" or whatever buzzword you would like to throw out, why don't you call his show this week when he is actively trying to get conservative voices for the show. Since you obviously watch the show frequently enough to know that "Mahr is never funny" It's "Maher" --- and why the fuck would I waste my time or energy calling his show? He's neither funny NOR witty. His observations could hardly be more superficial and he's as blindly wrong on most issues as...geez, nobody this side of Arthur Miller. Claiming Mahr is "unamerican" is about original as trying make the argument that Rush is "fair with Bush" oh wait, you tried that one out for size as well. Rush has actually bashed Bush's immigration policies. I mean jesus christ, is this Sept. 12th 2001 all over again? You are throwing around the word "unamerican" on someone who is questioning america's history of foreign policy and it's effect on the global community, as if it shouldn't be up for debate or something!?! I'm throwing un-American around in situations where it fits to a tee. If you don't like it, so be it. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2005 -=Mike It's "Maher" --- and why the fuck would I waste my time or energy calling his show? He's neither funny NOR witty. His observations could hardly be more superficial and he's as blindly wrong on most issues as...geez, nobody this side of Arthur Miller. Well you obviously waste your time watching the show, so I'd figure you would have a fun time "taking him to task" on the issues. Rush has actually bashed Bush's immigration policies. Well, excuse me, Rush criticizing Bush for not being right-wing enough, on every single issue. I'm throwing un-American around in situations where it fits to a tee. If you don't like it, so be it. No you are throwing it around to someone who takes an unpopular opinion, and dares to try and look deeper into the "why they hate us" issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2005 Hey Mike, if you hate Maher that much, what do you think of David Cross? As for the actual topic; someone once told me she had a brilliant mind and told me to read her stuff. Is this true? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 7, 2005 I'm throwing un-American around in situations where it fits to a tee. If you don't like it, so be it. No you are throwing it around to someone who takes an unpopular opinion, and dares to try and look deeper into the "why they hate us" issue. Yes, that's EXACTLY it. You nailed it. Kudos! Hold on to that pipe dream. Hey Mike, if you hate Maher that much, what do you think of David Cross? Disagree with him politically, but he's hilarious. I saw his stand-up special on HBO a few years back and almost died laughing. As for the actual topic; someone once told me she had a brilliant mind and told me to read her stuff. Is this true? She's extremely intelligent and her stuff is exceptionally interesting to read. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CheesalaIsGood 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2005 They hate our freedom. Thats all we really need to know right? They are anti-american and americans LOVE freedom. Therefore they hate freedom. DUH! Looking any deeper is for morons? Right? Cuz 19 guys fly planes into buildings over JEALOUSY! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 7, 2005 They hate our freedom. Thats all we really need to know right? They are anti-american and americans LOVE freedom. Therefore they hate freedom. DUH! Looking any deeper is for morons? Right? Cuz 19 guys fly planes into buildings over JEALOUSY! They hate Western culture because we're not an Islamofascist regime. You are trying to give them reasons that they do not have. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUTT 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2005 As for the actual topic; someone once told me she had a brilliant mind and told me to read her stuff. Is this true? She's extremely intelligent and her stuff is exceptionally interesting to read. -=Mike Explain to me what is so good about her writings. Sure, I dont agree with her views, but I can enjoy certain conservative writers like Jonah Goldberg and Michelle Malkin. With Coulter, it seems that all her columns consist completely of personal attacks and general statements such as liberals support Saddam, liberals uniformly don't believe in God, etc. I mean, it's not like her writings could actually turn someone away from liberalism and towards conservatism, because she never writes about what's good about conservatism, only about how awful liberals are. Not that there aren't a lot of people like that on the left, but it seems that the kind of stuff she writes would only appeal to people such as yourself who really seem to hate liberals (that isn't meant as a flame, just an observation based on reading your posts over the last year). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 7, 2005 As for the actual topic; someone once told me she had a brilliant mind and told me to read her stuff. Is this true? She's extremely intelligent and her stuff is exceptionally interesting to read. -=Mike Explain to me what is so good about her writings. Sure, I dont agree with her views, but I can enjoy certain conservative writers like Jonah Goldberg and Michelle Malkin. With Coulter, it seems that all her columns consist completely of personal attacks and general statements such as liberals support Saddam, liberals uniformly don't believe in God, etc. I mean, it's not like her writings could actually turn someone away from liberalism and towards conservatism, because she never writes about what's good about conservatism, only about how awful liberals are. Not that there aren't a lot of people like that on the left, but it seems that the kind of stuff she writes would only appeal to people such as yourself who really seem to hate liberals (that isn't meant as a flame, just an observation based on reading your posts over the last year). She is one of the funniest people out there. And she actually does make cogent arguments. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2005 I read National Review regularly and think many of the writers in the magazine are quite good and find myself agreeing with things that they write from time to time. What I've read from Coulter, though, is pretty tacky and generally bad. She's been fired from a couple of places because of piss-poor writing, I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites