JBL after Mania?

[Sass 0]

He still won the tag team belts with DiBiase who should have never been saddled with such a Vince-alicious gimmick meant to goad the government. Rotundo got stuck with a heat sinker gimmick that should have never made it onto TV. I've got friends who still poke fun about that because of how stupid and absurd it was to stretch the imagination for an IRS agent wrestling in the WWE. The absurdity of it all was just too much.

 

When Vince wants to vent on-air, it's blatantly obvious. But running a successful company is about pleasing and entertaining the fans first. Not getting your own jollies off by pissing down on someone's leg like the IRC or the PTC. That's just an easy way to run viewers off since Vince will push his self-serving interest gimmicks past the point of their expiration date. The RTC guys towards the end of their run looked haggard and putting Stevie Richards at the head of a *serious* group was the opposite way of how to book him strongly. Stevie's always been best when he's had some sort of angle that has some smart comedy to it and there was nothing funny or entertaining about Vince's RTC group.

 

It's kinda like JBL and his Cabinet today. There's nothing funny or remotely entertaining about him. He's a giant boob who went from being in a mediocre tag team to beating the most popular wrestler in the WWE all within the span of 2 months. This is just Vince getting his rocks off now. He saddled Bradshaw up with a gimmick that went *completely* against his character with no build-up or logical explanation for why he'd go high-class on everyone after pouring beer on girls and getting sloppy drunk before matches. Kinda like the Austin turn.

 

JBL is just out there holding a belt that should and would have been Eddy's but lucked into being one of the longest reigning champions in recent WWE history because of bad breaks with the former champ and his reign. Bradshaw will go down as one of the luckiest champs in history for winning a belt that he won more based on crummy circumstances than being over with the fans and getting them to care about him and who he faces. Heels, in order to be successful, need to be able to evoke emotions and interest from fans. REALLY be able to piss them off to the point where fans will pay to see him or her get their BUTT haned to them in the ring. JBL's just a clown in that regard.

 

The SD! buyrates, with him at the top of the cards, have shown that the fans are not willing to pay for him. Not even a *bump* in the buyrates or ratings has been seen while JBL has been on top of the cards. JBL has been given the push of a life-time that someone like Jericho could have used in 2002 when he was the Undisputed champ but did nothing to warrant it.

 

No logic, no explanation, no reason to care, no need to pay. Fans don't need their intelligence insulted like that.

[UZI Suicide 0]

Hopefully he'll be back to the mid-card.

[strummer 0]

JBL is just out there holding a belt that should and would have been Eddy's but lucked into being one of the longest reigning champions in recent WWE history because of bad breaks with the former champ and his reign.

 

What bad breaks are you referring to? Eddy couldn't handle the pressure of being on top, he was so disappointed in himself that ratings and buyrates didn't improve with him as champ. I wouldn't necessarily say he caught a bad break, he just couldn't handle the pressure.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

JBL is just out there holding a belt that should and would have been Eddy's but lucked into being one of the longest reigning champions in recent WWE history because of bad breaks with the former champ and his reign.

 

What bad breaks are you referring to? Eddy couldn't handle the pressure of being on top, he was so disappointed in himself that ratings and buyrates didn't improve with him as champ. I wouldn't necessarily say he caught a bad break, he just couldn't handle the pressure.

The main reason JBL got the belt was because Vince wanted to get back at the 'liberal' media who had, in his mind, got JBL fired from his job at CNBC.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

JBL is just out there holding a belt that should and would have been Eddy's but lucked into being one of the longest reigning champions in recent WWE history because of bad breaks with the former champ and his reign.

 

What bad breaks are you referring to? Eddy couldn't handle the pressure of being on top, he was so disappointed in himself that ratings and buyrates didn't improve with him as champ. I wouldn't necessarily say he caught a bad break, he just couldn't handle the pressure.

They put the belt on Eddy when Smackdown was starting to unravel. That's a bad break in my book.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

They'd need to do a big haul-over on Mysterio. They had a chance to really push him back when he came in and was feuding with guys near the top, and since then he's flaundered.

Rey is a strange case. He's so much smaller than everybody else that fans almost expect him to lose, yet cheer for him strongly anyways in the off-chance that he might get lucky once and because his style is unique. He's one of those guys who are very tough to damage permanently, and I certainly don't think they've reached that point yet. Just look at the Royal Rumble, fans were really buying him there when he made the Final Four. I think maybe you need to give him a non-title or tag team victory over the champion first to get some credibility, and that's about it. They could turn Rey Misterio into a legitimate main eventer within a month if they wanted to. He might be the only guy in the company that could go that high in such a short time.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

JBL is just out there holding a belt that should and would have been Eddy's but lucked into being one of the longest reigning champions in recent WWE history because of bad breaks with the former champ and his reign.

 

What bad breaks are you referring to? Eddy couldn't handle the pressure of being on top, he was so disappointed in himself that ratings and buyrates didn't improve with him as champ. I wouldn't necessarily say he caught a bad break, he just couldn't handle the pressure.

Bad breaks:

-Angle was hurt

-Show was hurt

-Brock left

-Book turned heel, but they were flirting w/ the voodoo character for him, as well as making him Taker's bitch

-they didn't want to turn Taker heel (or Taker refused)

-they refused to put RVD in the ME

-JBL's mega-push was beginning

 

Eddie was never really given any support elsewhere on the show, so when the show started to go south, Eddie felt he had to shoulder all/most of the blame, even though circumstances were largely out of his hands. If they would have elevated RVD and Book into the ME spots, as well as feud Taker w/ Eddie, and then use the cruisers & the tag scene to hold up the mid & lower card, while slowly building up JBL, things would have (IMO) turned out much better for both Eddie & the SD brand.

[bob_barron 0]

He still won the tag team belts with DiBiase who should have never been saddled with such a Vince-alicious gimmick meant to goad the government. Rotundo got stuck with a heat sinker gimmick that should have never made it onto TV. I've got friends who still poke fun about that because of how stupid and absurd it was to stretch the imagination for an IRS agent wrestling in the WWE. The absurdity of it all was just too much.

 

But Money Inc. was over back then and given the thin tag ranks- they totally deserved the belt. That's still not cramming him down our throats

[reign 0]

He'll retain as he should... it'll be Batista's night in the last match...Cena's not ready and I'm tired of young champions...besides there are no heels on SD! for him to face...JBL's character is being the World Champ and nothing else IMO...a U.S Title run would only be after he's lost the WWE Title(much later) and can't regain it and in a panic tries to take OJ's U.S title...

Did Lesnar and Orton really tire you of young champs?

The horrible booking of Orton still has me wondering what might've been and Brock the monster was turned into a smiling face then a pussy heel all throughout his reign leading to him getting burnt out(with the road schedule too I know)and the fans not caring...I think my criticism of Cena and the young champs comment isn't so much of the wrestlers themselves but of the WWE not being ready to allow such young stars to shine. They pushed Orton when they shouldn't have against their percieved top guy and got nothing out of it. Cena would tank as WWE champ and that might screw him for a long time, especially with HHH quick to point out downfalls in everyone who approaches his spot...what the hell is Cena gonna do on SD!...Angle ain't gonna be around forever and feuds with Eddy,Rey and RVD may not happen because they're all faces(Eddies turn will fail like SCSA's did). Cena is not a great wrestler...I think he's great but he's not gonna showcase his strengths in the ring...he NEEDS to be on Raw where his mic skills play better on the show...SD! looks like it needs to be the PG show and Raw the R show...that's where Cena can become a real star...he can fight Edge,Christian,Flair,Snitsky,HHH and have good matches with Benoit and Jericho because Raw seems to do more face vs. face and heel vs. heel matches(Rey/Eddie I know). Send Orton to SD! along with HBK so Orton can work with the face heavy SD! crew. It's that f'n simple....

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

He still won the tag team belts with DiBiase who should have never been saddled with such a Vince-alicious gimmick meant to goad the government. Rotundo got stuck with a heat sinker gimmick that should have never made it onto TV. I've got friends who still poke fun about that because of how stupid and absurd it was to stretch the imagination for an IRS agent wrestling in the WWE. The absurdity of it all was just too much.

 

But Money Inc. was over back then and given the thin tag ranks- they totally deserved the belt. That's still not cramming him down our throats

Plus Rotundo was a good wrestler despite his crappy gimmick.

[Brett Favre 0]

So he's not ready because he's on Smackdown?

[reign 0]

So he's not ready because he's on Smackdown?

As dumb as it sounds...Yes...I'm not saying that by going to Raw he's all of a sudden Stone Cold but there's nothing for him to do on SD! as the WWE Champ except flounder therefore making his first title run a waste..so he's not ready to be WWE champ on SD!. but after a solid run on Raw he should get the World Title(it'll look better on him anyways as it's old school)from HHH...a passing of the torch type thing...I like Batista but I wish he were a decade younger...going to Raw protects Cena beacuse Raw is the better show....

[Guest TheLastBoyscout]

I truly feel that if they waited, let JBL feud with Cena and let Eddie feud with CCC when he finally debuted they'd have had a program that would've drawn real money. I mean that feud woud've been just great to see.

[Guest mozak]

JUST BIG LOSER .