iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Michigan State needs a timeout. They're shaken as fuck right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shadow Report post Posted March 28, 2005 That finish will be talked about for a long time. just like this entire elite eight. considering such a shitty first round, this has been a classic tournament. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Yay UK pulls an Arizona and forgets the clock is running. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Yes, great defense there! Although not getting a shot off is pretty much inexcusable at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 And it's kind of crazy, but I think that the three best games of the tournament so far might have all been regional finals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Azubuike fouls out on the opening play of the 2nd OT. Interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BDC Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Seems to have pretty well paid off, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 This has to be the best set of regional finals ever. None as memorable as Duke/Kentucky, but as a set, they're unmatched. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 So, um why was it smart of Michigan State to not play defense there? I really don't get that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 So, um why was it smart of Michigan State to not play defense there? I really don't get that one. Don't risk the foul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Isn't MSU the team everyone said was overrated? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Still don't like the move. The way Kentucky's been shooting in the OTs, it's far from a given that they could have scored at all if MSU played proper defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Oh well. Doesn't matter now. STATE WINS! And I'm still alive for second in my pool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 So much for the horrible Big Ten. Half of the FINAL FOUR is coming out of the "down" conference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Yes! MSU wins. Thank god, other wise that last shot in regulation would be replayed to death until the end of time. Now it's meaningless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Still don't like the move. The way Kentucky's been shooting in the OTs, it's far from a given that they could have scored at all if MSU played proper defense. It's better to give them an uncontested 2 than to risk them shooting a 3. Just give them 2 and go hit your free throws. Kentucky had to make a 3 to have any realistic chance, given how good their free throw shooter was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alro 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Damn it. For a team so young, they played their asses off. It should have been over after one OT, but Rondo waited a little too long to start the play. I feel bad for Chuck Hayes. He's probably the most loved player to ever come to Lexington and he never made a Final Four. Shit. Go State. If there is any team in the Final Four that I want to win it all, it is MSU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Well things are looking like the Illinois/UNC game everyone predicted. But maybe U of L will pull the upset. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crazy Dan Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Well this has to be one of the best NCAA tourney Great Eight games I have ever seen. I mean two double OT games, one OT game, two monster comebacks, and one game that came down to the final moments. So I will say that I have no complaints at all about this. I just hope that we are not disappointed next weekend, but I have feeling that Ill and Lou will be a phenominal game and UNC and MSU will be intense. So in the Kent/MSU game, MSU comes out of nowhere to go to the Final Four. How many fans had them in the Final Four? I think that Duke was a popular pick, but this shows you that any team can be in a position to go to the Final Four and beyond. Kentucky had a chance to win it, but they had real poor clock management, like Zona, and did not set up a good shot. I guess these two instances of the players waiting too long to set the shot up really cost them. UNC was given all they can handle by Wisconsin and when it looked as though UNC would pull ahead for good, Wis would drain a three. I think May has played very well, following in his old man's footsteps of being a great college player (Scott May was the star on the 1975 Indiana team which is the last team to go undefeated) as he has kept UNC alive through all their games. Wisconsin suprised me by making the Great Eight, but I think they did not have enough to beat UNC, who I picked to win the whole Tourney. So I guessed three final four teams correctly, UNC, Lou, and Ill. I have UNC over Ill. I of course completely made all the wrong picks in MSU's bracket, so I am so glad I do not play for money. I will give my predictions later on this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crazy Dan Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Also, wouldn't you rather have Salim take the last shot? I don't know what happened there, but it still was great game and comeback. Well Salim was having a horrible shooting day. I don't think they trusted him. Then again they wouldn't let him prove if he was clutch or not. I mean one bad day of shooting can be negated by a game winning jumper. Yeah, I wrote this and then saw that he been poorly shooting, so I understand not making him the go to player. However, if you are going to have another player take the last shot, make sure that you don't waste too much time, so that if you can't take shot option #1, you still have time to get a good shot off. Also, Salim has shown he can hit that game winner, so I still might look for him to shoot the last shot. Also, what was up with not driving to the basket, the score was tied and there was no need for Zona to set up the shot in the area they did. Oh well, that is why they are going home and Illinois will play next week. Still was a great game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Young 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Even though I called Illinois vs. UNC in the title game (like 67% of America did) and never saw MSU getting this far, I would enjoy watching the Illini beat the fuck out of the Spartans in the title game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Platypus 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 I really don't understand how CBS didn't have a more clear shot of Sparks' toe being on/off of the three point line. The picture was simply too grainy to see for sure. There was no way to say yes/no. The only thing that bugged me about it was that the ref on the bottom of the screen was calling it a TWO. He was running toward the middle of the court with his arm extended to the side and two fingers held out. No one mentioned that at all. 7 minutes of replays and not one mention of that. Anyway they ended up making the right call in not overturning it as there was no clear picture to do so. What a fantastic game, I think my heart is still pounding, and I have to say I'm more proud of this team making it to the Final Four than I was in 2000 as Mateen and Mo Pete and company were actually expected to get there while these guys have been disrespected all year. How about a little respect now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 What a fantastic game, I think my heart is still pounding, and I have to say I'm more proud of this team making it to the Final Four than I was in 2000 as Mateen and Mo Pete and company were actually expected to get there while these guys have been disrespected all year. How about a little respect now? Hey aren't you the one that kept telling me what a misguided fool I was every time I tried to rank them in my top ten? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Platypus 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Yup, and since it worked so well so far I'll say it one more time: MSU will not beat UNC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Platypus 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 One other thing that I forgot to mention about last nights game. Next time you see the replay of that last shot, watch the MSU players standing around and letting the ball bounce to Sparks at the three point line. Absolutely unacceptable. I bet Izzo will be ripping them apart for that one (hope so anyway). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 It's odd that my bracket was trash after about 2 days yet in the end I did in fact have 3/4 of the FF (U of L, Illinois, UNC) and also had Mich St. in the Elite 8 (though jobbing to Oklahoma of all teams...I figured someone in the Big 12 would go somewhere this year). For all those so stoked about Illinois/UNC in the finals....it ain't happening. Illinois' big comeback masked the fact that Zona was owning their asses for 35m of that game, and in truth Illinois hasn't been really on their game in a quite a while. U of L can certainly win this thing. Besides when did anyone with 1 loss ever actually win it? Seems like those teams always crash down at some point Kansas 97, Duke 99, St. Joes and Stanford last year). As far as UNC/MSU goes, I'm frankly more impressed with Mich St. I thought once that OT began and they got down 4 they would fold, but no dice. Mind you, UK's execution in that 1st OT was hideous but MSU stayed in it. UNC looks like thorobreds, they have huge talent, but there is just something...missing from that team. Guts, heart, I dunno. I'm telling you, McCants will start dogging it and tank somewhere in the FF, whether it's against MSU or in the title game. Besides I'm still in shock that UNC would give up 82 to friggin WISCONSIN, a team that is lucky to stagger to 60 a night. UNC has tanked in so many FFs that I'll have to see them win to believe it. Personally I think for all their talent UNC will find some way to be 1 pt. behind someone when all is said and done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 What a fantastic game, I think my heart is still pounding, and I have to say I'm more proud of this team making it to the Final Four than I was in 2000 as Mateen and Mo Pete and company were actually expected to get there while these guys have been disrespected all year. How about a little respect now? Hey aren't you the one that kept telling me what a misguided fool I was every time I tried to rank them in my top ten? This Final Four run just shows how much Michigan St. underacieved this season, and had done the last 3 or 4 years. Regular seasons ratings are based on performance at the time, not what the team has the potential to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smh810 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 The thing with Mich.St. this year as someone on ESPN (Doug Gottlieb?) said last night they neither had great wins over a top-flite team nor did they have a loss to a really bad team. They were just a solid, good team that has gotten hot at the right time. Plus, Tom Izzo, is always dangerous in the NCAA Tourney. (Aside from the Final 4's He went to the Elite 8 as a 10? two years ago) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2005 Let's see, who did MSU lose to...Duke, Geo. Wash, Illinois, Wisconsin, Indiana, Iowa. The only goofy one there is maybe IU, but IU was actually pretty solid in the Big 10 at 10-6. Rest of those teams made the tourney. I think the reason no one paid much mind to MSU this year is that, well, no one gives a shit about them. Seriously, when was the last time anyone really CARED about Michigan St.? When Magic was there? Even in the Izzo era I really could care less about them, it's just that they are a team that has no heat or pizzazz. I know they made 3 straight FFs from 1999-2001 but I seriously didn't care and most of these runs weren't especially impressive (hell their title in 2000 was the worst FF maybe ever...I never want something like MSU/Wisc. at that level again). In 2001 they didn't really do anything to deserve to be in the FF, just beat down a 16, an 8, a 12, and an 11 before Zona squashed them. That 2003 run was slightly curious but not all that amazing, maybe beat Maryland in a mild upset before Texas beat them with little fanfare. The Big 10 is kinda like this as a whole. They do well in the tourney but aside from IU does the average fan really give a shit about ANY of these teams? I mean yeah Illinois this year but they are 36-1...did anyone care about them the various times they'd make it as a 4 seed though? Did anyone really care about Ohio St. in the FF in 99? Wisconsin in 2000? Big 10 is just a bland, boring league but the teams are usually physical and tough and that goes a long way. I think the league's perception is hurt by it being ugly to watch, though not as much as the SEC (which just plain sucks). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Platypus 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2005 I love how you voice your dislike of the Big 10 in general as though it's the way everyone feels about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
