Were there plans for Hogan vs Zeus at WMania 6?

[IWD 0]

Any thoughts as to whether the main event for WrestleMania 6 may have been Hogan vs Zeus if No Holds Barred had succeeded? If No Holds Barred had done really well, their first singles encounter could have been a big money match and possibly would have attracted more mainstream attention than Hogan vs Warrior.

 

Cheers.

[MDH257 0]

Yes that was exactly the plan. But the movie bombed and Zeus was awful in the ring, so all that changed.

 

Zeus was so bad that No Holds Barred the ppv (what ended up being the Hogan-Zeus blowoff) was a tag match because Vince knew it would be a disaster unless he put someone who could work (like Savage) in there to save it.

 

I'm betting that's why Zeus was only in the Survivor Series match for about 10 seconds.

[IWD 0]

Interesting. I guess that raises another question about which WrestleMania main events were changed...

 

Was WrestleMania I always planned to be the tag match, or was it originally planned to be Hogan vs Piper but Piper didn't want to job?

 

WrestleMania IV was planned to be DiBiase winning the title according to most sources. The opponent isn't clear, but Bigelow makes sense.

 

WrestleMania V may have been Hogan vs DiBiase.

 

WrestleMania VI would have been Hogan vs Zeus.

 

I think I read somewhere that if the Gulf War had not happened, the main event of WrestleMania VII would have been Hogan vs Warrior II.

 

WrestleMania VIII was nearly Hogan vs Flair.

 

Did WWE ever try to do Hogan vs Hart at WrestleMania IX?

 

WrestleMania XIII would have been the Hart vs Michaels rematch if Shawn had not lost his smile.

 

WrestleMania XX was originally planned to be HHH vs Benoit but they added Michaels into the mix as they were uncertain whether Benoit was over enough as a face draw.

 

WrestleMania XXI was originally expected to be HHH vs Orton.

 

Cheers.

[Toshiaki Koala 0]

HHH vs. Rock must have been in the works for 'Mania 2000 before Vince took a brainshit and decided to book the ridiculous Fatal Four-Way with Hunter going over.

[strummer 0]

at the NHB PPV, Vince kept saying "wouldn't it be great to see Hogan and Zeus in the ring at WrestleMania" So it was definitely in the works, but even Vince knew that Zeus was so bad it would have been a disaster.

[Guest Fook]

When Big Show first came in, Vince wanted to build to an Austin/Show matchup at WM2000.

[BUTT 0]

^That's right, he thought it would be the Hogan/Andre of 2000.

 

Frok what I've read, WWF also briefly considered Rikishi/HHH for WM2000, after Rikishi got incredibly over in early 2000.

[Jericholic82 0]

When Big Show first came in, Vince wanted to build to an Austin/Show matchup at WM2000.

foley said that in his 2nd book. And claimed that why show turned face so quick. but why did they have show job clean to austin two weeks before mania 15 on raw?

[Jericholic82 0]

and as for wm 16, as it turned out, wwf was able to pop a big buyrate for backlash by holding off the rock-hhh blowoff, so it wasnt all bad.

[Guest Shadow]

Interesting. I guess that raises another question about which WrestleMania main events were changed...

 

Was WrestleMania I always planned to be the tag match, or was it originally planned to be Hogan vs Piper but Piper didn't want to job?

 

WrestleMania IV was planned to be DiBiase winning the title according to most sources. The opponent isn't clear, but Bigelow makes sense.

 

WrestleMania V may have been Hogan vs DiBiase.

 

WrestleMania VI would have been Hogan vs Zeus.

 

I think I read somewhere that if the Gulf War had not happened, the main event of WrestleMania VII would have been Hogan vs Warrior II.

 

WrestleMania VIII was nearly Hogan vs Flair.

 

Did WWE ever try to do Hogan vs Hart at WrestleMania IX?

 

WrestleMania XIII would have been the Hart vs Michaels rematch if Shawn had not lost his smile.

 

WrestleMania XX was originally planned to be HHH vs Benoit but they added Michaels into the mix as they were uncertain whether Benoit was over enough as a face draw.

 

WrestleMania XXI was originally expected to be HHH vs Orton.

 

Cheers.

WM1 was always planned to be the tag match; WM2 was supposed to be Hogan Vs Piper. Piper refused to job and thus the match didnt happen until 1997 in WCW.

 

Yes; Dibiase/Bam Bam was the original finals for IV and Dibiase/Hogan was penciled in a year in advanced but HTM threw his hissy fit and changed history for ever.

 

The Gulf War had nothing to do with changing the VII main event. It was changed because Warrior bombed at the gates and they decided to exploit the war.

 

Hogan/Flair, Savage/Roberts and sid/taker(not sure if they were to still turn) was slated to be a triple main event for VIII but Hogan/Flair didn't draw well and work as well as expected and Hogan had to leave due to the impending roid investigation and vince felt hogan being away would help matters.

 

Hogan Vs Hart was booked for KOTR but Hogan refused to job to Hart. WMIX was booked for Yoko/Hart a good amount of time ahead of the show.

 

 

WMXXI wasn't supposed to be Orton Vs Triple H but rather Triple H Vs Brock Lesnar...that got changed for orton vs triple h and that program bombed.

 

I wonder what the early booking plans was for X8 because i doubt they had rock/hogan and jericho/triple H in mind. I wouldn't be surprised if they had planned Austin/HHH.

[tbondrage99 0]

I once heard that they were going to have Austin/Foley for Wrestlemania XV but Im not sure if there is any truth to that or not.

[BorneAgain 0]

I once heard that they were going to have Austin/Foley for Wrestlemania XV but Im not sure if there is any truth to that or not.

Well according to Foley in Foley is Good the original plan was a triple threat match between Mankind, Rock, and Austin, but Shawn Michaels stressed that they needed a one on one match for the Wrestlemania main event. Foley noted that Shawn was actually pulling for Austin/Mankind, but the office went with the more profitable choice of Austin/Rock.

 

Of course a year later they went with the 4-way and ironically enough Shawn himself would be in the three way main event at WMXX.

[Guest LooneyTune]

Wrestlemania XV would've been packed with multi-person title matches if that happend (see also: WM 2000 with 5!).

 

WWF - Rock/Austin/Mankind

IC - RDogg/Goldust/Shamrock/Venis

HC - Gunn/Holly/Snow

[cawthon777 0]

Hogan Vs Hart was booked for KOTR but Hogan refused to job to Hart.

That would have been for Summer Slam 93, not KOTR.

 

I imagine KOTR would have gone off as planned, only with Hogan defeating Yoko and without the Lawler beatdown of Bret at the end. Bret winning the tournament would have clearly made him the #1 contender.

[Guest Shadow]

People who complain about WMXXI's card should take a good hard look at what they gave us in XV and XVI.

[Guest MikeSC]

People who complain about WMXXI's card should take a good hard look at what they gave us in XV and XVI.

WMXVI was a pretty damned good show.

-=Mike

[JoeDirt 0]

People who complain about WMXXI's card should take a good hard look at what they gave us in XV and XVI.

WMXVI was a pretty damned good show.

-=Mike

It really doesn't hold up. At least that's what I thought when I watched it last week.

[Jericholic82 0]

I once heard that they were going to have Austin/Foley for Wrestlemania XV but Im not sure if there is any truth to that or not.

Well according to Foley in Foley is Good the original plan was a triple threat match between Mankind, Rock, and Austin, but Shawn Michaels stressed that they needed a one on one match for the Wrestlemania main event. Foley noted that Shawn was actually pulling for Austin/Mankind, but the office went with the more profitable choice of Austin/Rock.

 

Of course a year later they went with the 4-way and ironically enough Shawn himself would be in the three way main event at WMXX.

Yea but wasnt austin-rock the plan for months before? and why did Vince listen to shawn michaels opinion anyway? was shawn on the booking team at the time?

[Art Sandusky 0]

The only one-on-one match at Wrestlemania XVI was the catfight. I mean, the show's fun to watch, but a lack of real singles matches keeps it from being in the upper echelon of my favorites.

[Jericholic82 0]

The only one-on-one match at Wrestlemania XVI was the catfight. I mean, the show's fun to watch, but a lack of real singles matches keeps it from being in the upper echelon of my favorites.

Good point

[IWD 0]

OK, so to update:

 

WM1: Hulk Hogan & Mr T vs Roddy Piper & Paul Orndorff - went as planned

WM2: Hulk Hogan vs King Kong Bundy - original plans were for Hulk Hogan vs Roddy Piper

WM3: Hulk Hogan vs Andre The - went as planned

WM4: Ted DiBiase vs Randy Savage - original plans were for Ted DiBiase vs Bam Bam Bigelow, with Ted DiBiase winning the title

WM5: Hulk Hogan vs Randy Savage - original plans were for Hulk Hogan vs Ted DiBiase

WM6: Hulk Hogan vs The Ultimate Warrior - original plans were for Hulk Hogan vs Zeus

WM7: Hulk Hogan vs Sergeant Slaughter - presumably some other plans were in line before the Gulf War

WM8: Hulk Hogan vs Sid Justice/ Randy Savage vs Ric Flair - original plans were for a triple main event with Hulk Hogan vs Ric Flair/ Randy Savage vs Jake Roberts/ Sid Justice vs The Undertaker

WM9: Bret Hart vs Yokozuna - went as planned

WM10: Bret Hart vs Yokozuna - went as planned

WM11: Shawn Michaels vs Diesel/ Lawrence Taylor vs Bam Bam Bigelow - went as planned

WM12: Bret Hart vs Shawn MIchaels - went as planned

WM13: Sycho Sid vs The Undertaker - original plans were for Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels rematch

WM14: Steve Austin vs Shawn Michaels - went as planned

WM15: Steve Austin vs The Rock - original plans were for Steve Austin vs The Rock vs Mankind

WM16: Triple H vs The Rock vs The Big Show vs Mick Foley - original plans were for Steve Austin vs The Big Show

WM17: Steve Austin vs The Rock - went as planned

WM18: Triple H vs Chris Jericho - original plans were for Triple H vs Steve Austin (this was in The Observer)

WM19: Kurt Angle vs Brock Lesnar/ Triple H vs Booker T. - went as planned

WM20: Triple H vs Chris Benoit vs Shawn Michaels/ Kurt Angle vs Eddie Guerrero - original plans for Raw main event were Triple H vs Chris Benoit

WM21: Triple H vs Batista/ John Layfield vs John Cena - original plans were for Triple H vs Brock Lesnar (later Randy Orton) for the Raw main event, and Kurt Angle vs The Undertaker for the Smackdown main event

 

Is that correct?

 

Cheers.

[iggymcfly 0]

Triple H vs. Booker T, Kurt Angle vs. Eddie Guerrero, and JBL vs. Cena are no more main events than Undertaker vs. Orton is.

 

And has the Luger winning the title plan been completely dismissed? I kind of vaguely remember someone dismissing it, but I was still pretty sure that the plan was for Luger to be in the ME at some point.

[Richard 0]

WM XIV was originally Austin vs. Bret Hart

[MDH257 0]

If Shawn hadn't "lost his smile" he was going to lose the title to Sid on Raw and WM 13 against Bret would have just been a one on one match on the undercard with no title on the line. Vince was getting panicked about buisness being down and decided around the begining of Feb. that he needed to have big guys (in size) in the main event. So Sid vs Undertaker was going to be the title match and in the main event slot even if Shawn had wrestled on the show.

[Guest Arnold_OldSchool]

Interesting. I guess that raises another question about which WrestleMania main events were changed...

 

Was WrestleMania I always planned to be the tag match, or was it originally planned to be Hogan vs Piper but Piper didn't want to job?

 

WrestleMania IV was planned to be DiBiase winning the title according to most sources. The opponent isn't clear, but Bigelow makes sense.

 

WrestleMania V may have been Hogan vs DiBiase.

 

WrestleMania VI would have been Hogan vs Zeus.

 

I think I read somewhere that if the Gulf War had not happened, the main event of WrestleMania VII would have been Hogan vs Warrior II.

 

WrestleMania VIII was nearly Hogan vs Flair.

 

Did WWE ever try to do Hogan vs Hart at WrestleMania IX?

 

WrestleMania XIII would have been the Hart vs Michaels rematch if Shawn had not lost his smile.

 

WrestleMania XX was originally planned to be HHH vs Benoit but they added Michaels into the mix as they were uncertain whether Benoit was over enough as a face draw.

 

WrestleMania XXI was originally expected to be HHH vs Orton.

 

Cheers.

WM 2 - Rumors were McMahon wanted Jerry Blackwell to come in as the monster heel, but Jerry stayed with the AWA

[CanadianChris 0]

And has the Luger winning the title plan been completely dismissed? I kind of vaguely remember someone dismissing it, but I was still pretty sure that the plan was for Luger to be in the ME at some point.

Meltzer has said on several occasions that the whole "Luger getting drunk the night before and ruining his title match" is an urban legend. The plan was for Bret/Yoko II all along.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

There was plan for a Hogan v Zeus singles match, but never for the main event of WM 6.

[IWD 0]

There was plan for a Hogan v Zeus singles match, but never for the main event of WM 6.

Surely Hogan would have been the main event anyway? Who would Hogan have dropped the title to before WrestleMania VI - and when?

 

Cheers.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

There was plan for a Hogan v Zeus singles match, but never for the main event of WM 6.

Surely Hogan would have been the main event anyway? Who would Hogan have dropped the title to before WrestleMania VI - and when?

 

Cheers.

The Warrior v Hogan match was planned for WM 6 as far back as from before Warrior got the IC Title. Hogan v Zeus was never considered to headline it.

[strummer 0]

I never understood the booking at Summerslam 89 as Hogan beat Zeus clean in the middle. How would have this led to a singles match as Hogan had already defeated the monster challenger clean? After the PPV, they sort of pretended the pinfall didn't happen as Zeus was back to being the "Human Wrecking Machine". Very weird booking (especially for the time frame) as I thought for sure Savage was taking the pinfall in the tag match.