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[Guest MikeSC]

You're a moron.

 

The NAACP has never advocated or executed the murder of white men.

 

You're making yourself sound like a KKK apologist here.

The NAACP has said that anybody who pposes them supports killing blacks.

 

Fuck them. Fuck the whole lot of them.

 

Especially considering their BLATANT hypocrisy in regards to those evil black conservatives.

 

You are an NAACP apologist. Which is sad.

-=Mike

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The more I see this thread title, the less I like it.

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The NAACP has said that anybody who pposes them supports killing blacks.

 

Fuck them. Fuck the whole lot of them.

 

Especially considering their BLATANT hypocrisy in regards to those evil black conservatives.

 

You are an NAACP apologist. Which is sad.

-=Mike

Prove that claim Mike.

 

(i'm sure the NAACP has all sorts of stuff just as a racist as the Klan. I'll have to check for some stuff like that when I get home at 2)

[Guest MikeSC]

The NAACP has said that anybody who pposes them supports killing blacks.

 

Fuck them. Fuck the whole lot of them.

 

Especially considering their BLATANT hypocrisy in regards to those evil black conservatives.

 

You are an NAACP apologist. Which is sad.

              -=Mike

Prove that claim Mike.

 

(i'm sure the NAACP has all sorts of stuff just as a racist as the Klan. I'll have to check for some stuff like that when I get home at 2)

You missed the ads in MO in 1998 about it, eh?

 

Sorry to hear that.

 

I could also use some nice lines from Julian Bond, if you'd like.

-=Mike

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Prove the claim Mike.

 

None of this "Well, it happened, I swear, it's your fault for missing it" BS.

 

Prove it. Anybody can make up a lot of bullshit and say "Well, you must have missed it" when asked to prove it.

 

Now.. since Mike tells us that the NAACP is as racist as the KKK. Let's look at what the KKK has to offer when it comes to racism (and, since Mike as "as racist as the KKK was", we can presume we have a more mellow Klan now)

 

(random thought: Isn't it odd that while the KKK claims to be part of a superior race, they have crappy design on their websites?)

 

Let's go to the 1920s:

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/f...owers/Klan.html

 

We do not accept Jews, because they reject Christ, and, through the machinations of their International Banking Cartel, are at the root center of what we call "communism" today.

 

    We do not accept Papists, because they bow to a Roman dictator, in direct violation of the First Commandment, and the True American Spirit of Responsible, Individual Liberty.

 

    We do not accept Turks, Mongols, Tarters, Orientals, Negroes, nor any other person whose native background of culture is foreign to the Anglo-Saxon system of Government by responsible, FREE individual citizens.

 

http://www.kkk.bz/abolish.htm

 

The New York Post of July 1, 1958, interviewed King who stated: "I'm sure that integration will lead to intermarriage." This is part of the Communist/one worlder's scheme to weaken America. Mongrelized naitons have never been racially strong enough to defend themselves from dictatorships.

 

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAkkk.htm

 

The Kloran of the Klan defines a Klavalier as the soldier of the Klan. We take our name from the cavalier - a courtly, polite, cultured and very courageous and skillful soldier of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries.

 

As the Military Department of the Invisible Empire, we Klavaliers also serve as the secret police of the KKK and are entrusted with carrying out all "direct-line" activity. We are a militant army, serving our country in peacetime as the U.S. Army does in wartime! Our country was founded by a white Protestant nation, and we intend to maintain it as such! Any attempt to influence its affairs by inferior racial minorities or persons owing allegiance to foreign prelates or potentates will not be tolerated!

 

All hyphenated groups - whether they be Negro-Americans, Jewish-Americans, Catholic-Americans, Italian-Americans or whatever must become American-Americans, or leave the country! The Ku Klux Klan is an American-American organization. As the Army of the Klan we Klavaliers are dedicated to saving America for Americans!

 

So.. the NAACP believes that people in other races are inferior compared to them? So what i've heard about the NAACP letting anybody in is untrue..

 

I'm sure Mike knows the answers here!

[Guest MikeSC]

Does the NAACP let anybody in? No. Ask black conservatives, who have had to deal with their virulent racism. Ask a conservative, who has had to deal with their virulent racism. The only reason they aren't violent is because it wouldn't assist them in shaking companies down for money.

 

Their comments about conservative blacks are of the same vein as comments made by Klansmen about blacks. Conservatives blacks get called "house niggers", "Uncle Toms", etc (funny, you didn't hear any uproar from the NAACP about the blatant racism against Condoleeza Rice) when they dare to disagree with the NAACP.

 

Fuck the NAACP. A bunch of racists and nothing more.

-=Mike

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Does the NAACP let anybody in? No. Ask black conservatives, who have had to deal with their virulent racism. Ask a conservative, who has had to deal with their virulent racism. The only reason they aren't violent is because it wouldn't assist them in shaking companies down for money.

 

Their comments about conservative blacks are of the same vein as comments made by Klansmen about blacks. Conservatives blacks get called "house niggers", "Uncle Toms", etc (funny, you didn't hear any uproar from the NAACP about the blatant racism against Condoleeza Rice) when they dare to disagree with the NAACP.

 

Fuck the NAACP. A bunch of racists and nothing more.

-=Mike

Apparently, The NAACP is racist because they don't like Conservatives..

 

And apparently, when you said the NAACP is just as racist as the KKK, you meant 'against black people'. I guess that means I don't have to worry about a group of NAACP members harassing me for being white.

 

Request A: Can you present any proof of their racism?

Request B: Can you show they are just as racist as the KKK?

 

And i'll amend your statement a bit..

Hell, I'd be more outraged over Tom Delay's problems if he only killed a woman or was a member of the Klan or the NAACP, like some extremely prominent Dems.

[Guest MikeSC]

Does the NAACP let anybody in? No. Ask black conservatives, who have had to deal with their virulent racism. Ask a conservative, who has had to deal with their virulent racism. The only reason they aren't violent is because it wouldn't assist them in shaking companies down for money.

 

Their comments about conservative blacks are of the same vein as comments made by Klansmen about blacks. Conservatives blacks get called "house niggers", "Uncle Toms", etc (funny, you didn't hear any uproar from the NAACP about the blatant racism against Condoleeza Rice) when they dare to disagree with the NAACP.

 

Fuck the NAACP. A bunch of racists and nothing more.

      -=Mike

Apparently, The NAACP is racist because they don't like Conservatives..

 

And apparently, when you said the NAACP is just as racist as the KKK, you meant 'against black people'. I guess that means I don't have to worry about a group of NAACP members harassing me for being white.

 

Request A: Can you present any proof of their racism?

Request B: Can you show they are just as racist as the KKK?

 

And i'll amend your statement a bit..

Hell, I'd be more outraged over Tom Delay's problems if he only killed a woman or was a member of the Klan or the NAACP, like some extremely prominent Dems.

They call black conservatives the same damned names Klansmen call them. They are NO different.

And apparently, when you said the NAACP is just as racist as the KKK, you meant 'against black people'. I guess that means I don't have to worry about a group of NAACP members harassing me for being white.

No, they just stoke the fires of racial hatred because it's financially beneficial for them to do so.

Request A: Can you present any proof of their racism?

Request B: Can you show they are just as racist as the KKK?

 

And i'll amend your statement a bit..

Hell, I'd be more outraged over Tom Delay's problems if he only killed a woman or was a member of the Klan or the NAACP, like some extremely prominent Dems.

Feel free. It's a completely accurate statement.

-=Mike

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For the sake of reference:

 

Main Entry: rac·ism

Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi-

Function: noun

1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

 

They call black conservatives the same damned names Klansmen call them. They are NO different.

 

So, the Klan, a group which feels that African-Americans are inferior, is just as racist as the NAACP, a group when you claim dislikes black people if they are conservative.

 

Or, in other words..

 

the NAACP is racist against African-Americans

 

No, they just stoke the fires of racial hatred because it's financially beneficial for them to do so.

 

So, the NAACP isn't as racist as the KKK, or are they? are they racist and doing it to make money, or are they not racist and using it to make money.

 

I'm sure your original statement is the one you're standing by.

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They call black conservatives the same damned names Klansmen call them. They are NO different.

 

What your hard, idiotic head can't process is the fact that Klansmen didn't just call black conservatives by names, THEY F'N LYNCHED THEM.

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Mike would file that under 'violence'. He said that the NAACP is not as violent as the Klan. But he never actually proved that the NAACP was as racist as the KKK either.

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Or, in other words..

 

the NAACP is racist against African-Americans

They have no use for anyone who's Black and happens to be conservative. Clarence Thomas? Dr. Rice? "Uncle Toms." If you're Black, conservative, and successful, the NAACP wants nothing to do with you. One would think an organization that is ostensibly about advancing the cause of Blacks in society would use people like Thomas and Rice as role models of a sort. Instead, they're sellouts to whitey.

 

The NAACP wants their Blacks uneducated, young, and in the ghetto. That way, they can peddle their the-man-keeps-us-down propaganda to them and have a member for life.

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Or, in other words..

 

the NAACP is racist against African-Americans

They have no use for anyone who's Black and happens to be conservative. Clarence Thomas? Dr. Rice? "Uncle Toms."

When has anyone in the NAACP ever called a black conservative an "Uncle Tom"? Harry Belafonte and Ted Rall ain't the NAACP. Did you forget when the NAACP denounced the "Aunt Jemima" thing and actually did the absolute opposite of what you suggest?

NAACP President & CEO Kweisi Mfume denounced critics of Secretary of State nominee Condoleezza Rice who have resorted to the use of racial stereotypes to describe her.

 

Mfume on Friday responded to Madison, Wis. radio show host John “Sly” Sylvester who recently called Rice “Aunt Jemima,” apparently suggesting that the first black woman to serve as a U.S. President’s National Security counsel is a subservient player in the administration.

 

“Her counsel is respected and valued in her field and in the upper echelons of her political party,” Mfume said in a statement obtained by  BlackAmericaWeb.com. “Moreover, “Rice, a PhD and former Stanford University provost, is an example of how far hard work, education and determination can take one to new heights.”

 

Mfume also said that “attacks on Rice by the radio host and political cartoonists who use stereotypes and racial caricatures are just as bad as those who hide under sheets and burn crosses. This is something the NAACP has fought against for more than 95 years and something we will continue to oppose.”

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Back to Tom DeLay for a moment

 

Don't be hatin'

 

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...esdemocratshate

 

DeLay Letter Cites Democrats' 'Hate'

Tue Apr 19, 7:55 AM ET  Top Stories - Los Angeles Times

By Richard Simon Times Staff Writer

 

WASHINGTON — House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas), dogged by questions about his ethics, is fighting back by telling supporters that Democrats have targeted him in an effort to derail the conservative agenda.

 

In a five-page single-spaced "briefing document" sent to supporters, DeLay contends that "Democrats have made clear that their only agenda is the politics of personal destruction."

 

"They hate Ronald Reagan conservatives like DeLay and they hate that he is an effective leader who succeeds in passing the Republican agenda," the document says under the heading "Fact Versus Fiction: The Left-Wing 'Case' Against Tom DeLay."

 

The briefing document and an accompanying letter, sent to supporters last week by DeLay's reelection committee, signal a more aggressive effort by the congressman to solidify his support among his Republican colleagues. It comes as Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean has vowed to use the DeLay-led congressional intervention last month in the Terri Schiavo case to fight the GOP in the 2006 elections.

 

"We're going to have an ad with a picture of Tom DeLay saying, 'Do you want this guy to decide whether you die or not? Or is that going to be up to your loved ones?' " Dean told supporters Friday in West Hollywood.

 

DeLay, the House's No. 2 leader, received three rebukes last year from the House Permanent Select Committee on Ethics for his hardball political tactics.

 

More recently, he has faced questions about whether he took overseas trips funded by lobbyists and foreign agents — prohibited by House rules — and about his association with a lobbyist for Indian gaming interests who is being investigated by a federal grand jury on suspicion of fraud and public corruption.

 

One of DeLay's Republican colleagues has called for him to give up his leadership post, and another has suggested that he step aside while the allegations are being investigated. But the Texan remains popular among his colleagues because of his work strengthening the House Republican majority, including raising campaign funds for many GOP lawmakers.

 

The letter also follows a suggestion April 10 by Sen. Rick Santorum (news, bio, voting record) of Pennsylvania, the third-ranking Republican in the Senate, that DeLay "lay out what he did and why he did it and let the people then judge for themselves."

 

In the letter, DeLay accused Democrats of trying to "demonize" him in an effort to regain control of Congress. "It is abundantly clear that their fundamental strategy revolves around attacking me and working to tear down Republican leadership," DeLay wrote.

 

DeLay said he was told the privately funded trips he took to Russia in 1997 and Britain in 2000 were paid for by a nonprofit organization, which is permitted under House rules. "If the sponsor of a trip ultimately obtains funding for a trip, a member is not and should not be responsible for that information," the letter said.

 

He said that two days before a 2001 trip to South Korea, the group sponsoring his visit registered as a foreign agent but did not notify him.

 

He called the indictment in Texas last year of three political fundraisers with ties to him a "political dirty trick," and he insisted that the Ethics Committee last year did not find that he had violated any rule or law but had told him to moderate his behavior.

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He's flipping out. Awesome.

[Guest MikeSC]

Except he's actually right. The Dems aren't exactly providing a vision of anything. It's just attack...attack...attack.

 

Which, while nifty, isn't quite enough when you have no vision of your own to promote.

-=Mike

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Another DeLay post

 

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/a.../delay_judges_2

 

DeLay Slams Supreme Court Justice

1 hour, 20 minutes ago  Politics - U. S. Congress

By JESSE J. HOLLAND, Associated Press Writer

 

WASHINGTON - House Majority Leader Tom DeLay intensified his criticism of the federal courts on Tuesday, singling out Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy's work from the bench as "incredibly outrageous" because he has relied on international law and done research on the Internet.

 

DeLay also said he thought there were a "lot of Republican-appointed judges that are judicial activists."

 

The No. 2 Republican in the House has openly criticized the federal courts since they refused to order the reinsertion of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube. And he pointed to Kennedy as an example of Republican members of the Supreme Court who were activist and isolated.

 

"Absolutely. We've got Justice Kennedy writing decisions based upon international law, not the Constitution of the United States? That's just outrageous," DeLay told Fox News Radio. "And not only that, but he said in session that he does his own research on the Internet? That is just incredibly outrageous."

 

A spokeswoman for the court, Kathy Arberg, said Kennedy could not be reached for comment.

 

Although Kennedy was appointed to the Supreme Court by President Reagan, a conservative icon, he has aroused conservatives' ire by sometimes agreeing with the court's more liberal members. Nevertheless, it is unusual for a congressional leader to single out a Supreme Court justice for criticism.

 

Dan Allen, a DeLay spokesman, declined comment on the interview.

 

DeLay himself has been criticized for his comments following Schiavo's death, which came despite Congress' passage of a law ordering the courts to review her case. All of the federal courts, from the trial judge in Florida to the Supreme Court, refused to do so.

 

"The time will come for the men responsible for this to answer for their behavior," DeLay said in a statement.

 

He apologized last week, saying he had spoken in an "inartful" way.

 

Conservatives have been pushing to get the Senate to confirm President Bush's most conservative judicial nominees, which Senate Democrats are blocking. The House has no power over which judges are given lifetime appointments to the federal bench.

 

However, DeLay has called repeatedly for the House to find a way to hold the federal judiciary accountable for its decisions. "The judiciary has become so activist and so isolated from the American people that it's our job to do that," DeLay said.

 

One way would be for the House Judiciary Committee to investigate the clause in the Constitution that says "judges can serve as long as they serve with good behavior," he said. "We want to define what good behavior means. And that's where you have to start."

[Guest MikeSC]

I suppose you'll eventually reveal what the "shocking" or even "bad" part of this is.

-=Mike

...Compared to what Reid said about Clarence Thomas, Delay's criticisms of Kennedy are nothing...

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It is interesting how DeLay is admitting that Republicans have appointed judicial activists. Then again, Republicans have appointed a majority of judges too.

 

I'm sure what Anthony Kennedy found on the internet was incredibly outrageous too.

 

And defining good behavior.. good luck there Tom.

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Mike ignored Edwin's post.

 

 

 

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHOCKING

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

To be honest, the giant picture of Tom DeLay overshadowed Edwin's post.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

It was actually a reply to Tom, but it does address some of the stuff Mike's been talking about too. That DeLay picture's almost as good as some of the ones in the Sex Offenders thread.

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

That DeLay picture's almost as good as some of the ones in the Sex Offenders thread.

"Edwin, You take that back"

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"The time has come that the American people know exactly what their Representatives are doing here in Washington. Are they feeding at the public trough, taking lobbyist-paid vacations, getting wined and dined by special interest groups? Or are they working hard to represent their constituents? The people, the American people, have a right to know...I say the best disinfectant is full disclosure, not isolation." - U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay, 11/16/95

[Guest MikeSC]

And they're going to investigate anything.

 

And even if he's found completely innocent, it won't be enough for some.

-=Mike

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Or, in other words..

 

the NAACP is racist against African-Americans

They have no use for anyone who's Black and happens to be conservative. Clarence Thomas? Dr. Rice? "Uncle Toms."

When has anyone in the NAACP ever called a black conservative an "Uncle Tom"? Harry Belafonte and Ted Rall ain't the NAACP. Did you forget when the NAACP denounced the "Aunt Jemima" thing and actually did the absolute opposite of what you suggest?

NAACP President & CEO Kweisi Mfume denounced critics of Secretary of State nominee Condoleezza Rice who have resorted to the use of racial stereotypes to describe her.

 

Mfume on Friday responded to Madison, Wis. radio show host John “Sly” Sylvester who recently called Rice “Aunt Jemima,” apparently suggesting that the first black woman to serve as a U.S. President’s National Security counsel is a subservient player in the administration.

 

“Her counsel is respected and valued in her field and in the upper echelons of her political party,” Mfume said in a statement obtained by  BlackAmericaWeb.com. “Moreover, “Rice, a PhD and former Stanford University provost, is an example of how far hard work, education and determination can take one to new heights.”

 

Mfume also said that “attacks on Rice by the radio host and political cartoonists who use stereotypes and racial caricatures are just as bad as those who hide under sheets and burn crosses. This is something the NAACP has fought against for more than 95 years and something we will continue to oppose.”

Another thing that needs to be added is that the NAACP hates Justice Thomas because he tried to help repeal affirmative action. I've never heard anyone associated with the group say anything negative about Dr. Rice.

 

Are critics of the NAACP actually arguing that they shouldn't oppose people they disagree with just because they're black? That's ridicules.

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Rob's article with the big Tom picture makes it sound like DeLay is talking about himself in the third person now.

 

Also, you know he's desperate, because he's comparing himself to Ronnie Reagan, who wil always be invoked by any undeserving two-bit conservative trying to keep his nose up above the rising tide. It's like Nazi references in a debate thread or something. You can always smell the fear.

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Shut up you fascist hippie...

[Guest MikeSC]

Well, we found a way to get the Dems to shut up about Delay.

 

Notice that THEY have the identical problem on their side of the aisle.

Pelosi's ethics stance hypocritical, GOP says

 

By Charles Hurt

THE WASHINGTON TIMES

May 4, 2005

 

House Republicans called Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi a hypocrite yesterday for not demanding investigations into new ethics questions that have arisen about the travel of her fellow Democrats.

 

    "She demanded an investigation into [Majority Leader] Tom DeLay, but hasn't said a word about these Democrats who have done the same thing," said Rep. Patrick T. McHenry, North Carolina Republican. "If she doesn't call for investigations into her fellow Democrats, then it's clear she's being a hypocrite."

 

    Republicans are wondering why the California representative won't ask for investigations into Democratic Reps. Norm Dicks of Washington, Bennie Thompson of Mississippi, James E. Clyburn of South Carolina and Neil Abercrombie of Hawaii, all of whom face questions about accepting travel paid for by lobbyists.

 

    "As we expressed in earlier letters, Madame Leader, it appears more and more that your repeated calls for an investigation of Mr. DeLay are more driven by politics than by any real concern for the House rules," Mr. McHenry, with two other Republicans, wrote in a letter to Mrs. Pelosi yesterday.

 

    Despite urging from Republicans, Mrs. Pelosi refused to call for any investigations of her Democratic colleagues.

 

    "The Republicans are yet again attempting to muddy the waters to divert attention from their pattern of abusing of power," spokeswoman Jennifer Crider said yesterday.

 

    Mr. Dicks said earlier this week that a five-day trip he took to Miami this year was paid for by a defense lobbying firm without his knowledge. Upon learning that Alexandria-based Spectrum Group had paid some of the expenses, Mr. Dicks offered to pay the $985 out of pocket, his spokesman said.

 

    Mr. Thompson and Mr. Clyburn got embroiled in the ethics battle when the Associated Press discovered documents showing that their travels in 1997 to the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands (CNMI) had been paid for by a lobbyist.

 

    That lobbyist, Jack Abramoff, is under federal investigation and has been at the heart of questions surrounding travel by Mr. DeLay. Despite evidence showing that Mr. Abramoff paid for travel by Mr. DeLay, the Texas Republican said he never knowingly allowed any lobbyist to pay for his trips.

 

    Similarly, Mr. Thompson and Mr. Clyburn filed travel disclosure reports stating that a nonprofit organization paid for their trip and said they had no idea that Mr. Abramoff -- or his firm at the time, Preston Gates & Ellis LLP -- had footed the bill.

 

    In addition to bills totaling $5,240 for Mr. Thompson's travel and $4,823 for Mr. Clyburn's, the lobbyists also paid for the travel of two DeLay aides, according to records obtained by AP. In December 1996, the lobbyists paid $2,132 in travel expenses for DeLay Chief of Staff Ed Buckham and staffer Tony Rudy.

 

    Gregg Hilton, an official with the nonprofit listed on Mr. Thompson's and Mr. Clyburn's travel forms, told AP that the group never reimbursed the lobbyists. Mr. Hilton, who was on the trip, also said the lawmakers were never told that the now-defunct group, the National Security Caucus Foundation, would be footing the bills.

 

    Mr. Hilton and a DeLay spokesman said the CNMI government was supposed to have paid the bill, which is allowed under House ethics rules.

 

    Also recently ensnared in the ethics fight is Mr. Abercrombie, who blamed a clerical error for a travel disclosure form he filed stating that a lobbyist paid for a 2001 trip to Boston.

 

    In an ABC interview Sunday, Mrs. Pelosi dismissed questions about travel by Democrats, telling interviewer George Stephanopoulos: "Do not fall into a Republican trap of equating technicalities on reporting, timing of reporting with not upholding an ethical standard of the House."

 

    Republicans see a double standard.

 

    "What is a 'technicality' for her requires a full-scale investigation for others," said National Republican Congressional Committee spokesman Carl Forti.

http://insider.washingtontimes.com/article...04-122024-4420r

-=Mike

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Eh I didn't feel like reading that, anything in there that proves that Pelosi isn't a dumb bitch?