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I got Episode III with the bonus disc at WalMart today. It doesn't look like anything special, but I guess it's cool to have. I'll give it a watch pretty soon.

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I got Episode III with the bonus disc at WalMart today. It doesn't look like anything special, but I guess it's cool to have. I'll give it a watch pretty soon.

It sucks. Hard.

 

Apparently it was filmed last year (only covers Eps. 1 & 2, then 4-6), and made on a shoe string budget.

 

Hilariously, it uses footage from the special editions, and not the DVD release (original actors playing Emperor in 5 and Anakin in 6).

 

The Walmart by my house did have it package with the widescreen movie, but the bonus disk is full screen.

 

 

"The Chosen One" documetary is hilarious, as it features several moments of Hayden doing a perfectly decent and subdued performance, only to have Lucas make him redo it in the cheesiest way possible.

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In the commentary track, Lucas's team confirms that Grievous's coughing is a result of his encounter with Windu in the Clone Wars cartoon.

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Call me a loser, but I bought it at Target, went to the store, where people were talking about it and asked me if I bought it. I, of course, said yes, and then they asked if me I bought the one with the extra disc. I was like :huh: and jumped back into my car and went to Walmart and bought that.

 

So yeah, I own two copies of Sith now.

 

Oh well, I guess that's the advantage of having lots of money in your checking account.

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It's official- Palpatine was faking it, he did the whole thing to get Anakin to turn. This is from the commentary itself.

 

But they also said that it was always intended for Mace to overpower Palpatine, and that they only added in the faking part later.

 

So Mace was better with a saber, but Palpatine had a back-up plan; that's how I see it.

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Something interesting to note. I was watching the Palpatine web documentary and at 5:42 I noticed something sort of strange. As Palaptine and Mace were fighting each other, I noticed Anakin was standing in the room they just came out of, watching them. I wonder how that scene would have worked out.

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It's official- Palpatine was faking it, he did the whole thing to get Anakin to turn. This is from the commentary itself.

 

But they also said that it was always intended for Mace to overpower Palpatine, and that they only added in the faking part later.

 

So Mace was better with a saber, but Palpatine had a back-up plan; that's how I see it.

 

I'm with you, I can't accept that Palpatine could have overpowered Mace at any moment, I just can't...

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A friend of mine is crazy.

 

He refuses to watch Episode III on the fact that a minor (in the movies) character, Aayla Secura, dies.

 

He said it will ruin the movie for him and all of this crap.

 

He said he refuses to watch it unless the comics find a way to bring her back alive or something.

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Um, did your friend not realize that every single Jedi in the galaxy not named Yoda or Obi-Wan had to be dead by the end of this movie, or something?

 

He takes the EU to heart.

 

Plus he said that Lucus didn't contact Aayla's creators about Aayla being killed off.

 

He feels, if all these other EU Jedi survived, why shouldn't Aayla.

 

His words, not mine.

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So yeah, my grocery store had markdown Halloween items and I picked up the Darth Vader voice changer mask for 12.50

 

I couldn't resist.

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So I'm guessing we won't get the 6-disc box set of the Prequel & classic Star Wars until 2007?

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Um, did your friend not realize that every single Jedi in the galaxy not named Yoda or Obi-Wan had to be dead by the end of this movie, or something?

But they show Aayla get shot. Her death is probably the most brutal of the four deaths. She's walking with her clonetroopers, stops, a bird flies by and distracts her, the clonetroopers pull up theirs guns, aim, and fire, and after she goes down, they still continue to fire on her.

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The other Jedi went down like real motherfuckers. She's just all "ah! I tripped!"

 

I'll accept that Mace was a better fighter and Anakin was plan B. I always emphasized that Mace was just beating Palpatine in that fight and wasn't stronger in the Force itself or anything.

 

Was the bonus disc the same as the one that came with the soundtrack? (I haven't bought it yet, believe it or not) I liked that whole feature, I guess because it revolved around the music.

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Was the bonus disc the same as the one that came with the soundtrack? (I haven't bought it yet, believe it or not) I liked that whole feature, I guess because it revolved around the music.

No. It looks like a ghey TV special hosteed by C3PO and R2.

 

 

Also...

 

The Emperor > Mace Windu. Fact.

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While I won't deny that the Emperor is a better character, George Lucas himself says that Mace overpowered him in the lightsaber fight. What more do you want?

 

Also, a thought I had; do you people think that the special effects of the prequel trilogy will hold up as well as the special effects of the original trilogy? I was wondering about this the other day, because honestly, I think the special effects in the original trilogy are perfectly fine, minus a few slight problems. However, I was thinking that with the way computers advance these days, and the fact that 50% of RotS just *looks* computery, is it not possible that those special effects will be seen in a worse light by future generations? Like, is it not possible that they could come up with a new way of doing things that would make RotS look cheesy in comparison?

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Man i want of those pc for xmass, everybody in the office is ow left salivating. Thanks!!!

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While I won't deny that the Emperor is a better character, George Lucas himself says that Mace overpowered him in the lightsaber fight. What more do you want?

 

Also, a thought I had; do you people think that the special effects of the prequel trilogy will hold up as well as the special effects of the original trilogy? I was wondering about this the other day, because honestly, I think the special effects in the original trilogy are perfectly fine, minus a few slight problems. However, I was thinking that with the way computers advance these days, and the fact that 50% of RotS just *looks* computery, is it not possible that those special effects will be seen in a worse light by future generations? Like, is it not possible that they could come up with a new way of doing things that would make RotS look cheesy in comparison?

 

 

I see what you're getting at...in fact, go back and watch Episode 2 again and you can ALREADY see exactly what you're talking about!

 

example: look at how crappy the CGI apple looked that Anakin floated over to pad-uh-may and watch as she eats it...

 

example: how wooden and goofy and stiff the Clonetroopers all looked...

 

 

oh and I also stand by the fact that, while Palpatine was stronger, Mace was able to best him at that very moment and was a slice away from ending it all...I mean, Vader was always better than Luke, but Luke was some how able to get it done...

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Oh man, I *hate* the fact that they CGI'ed the Clonetroopers. I can understand why they did it with the droids (and really, it looks fine with the droids, because droids are supposed to look computery) but when you've got a single Clone trooper talking to someone, would it have been *that hard* to just build one friggin' Clonetrooper suit and stick someone in it? It just seems like an awful lot of work to go through for no real reason.

 

I can't understand why they didn't just make like, 10 of the suits, get 10 guys who were the same height to be in them, and then just use digital effects to copy and paste them whereever they needed clonetroopers.

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While I won't deny that the Emperor is a better character, George Lucas himself says that Mace overpowered him in the lightsaber fight. What more do you want?

 

Also, a thought I had; do you people think that the special effects of the prequel trilogy will hold up as well as the special effects of the original trilogy? I was wondering about this the other day, because honestly, I think the special effects in the original trilogy are perfectly fine, minus a few slight problems. However, I was thinking that with the way computers advance these days, and the fact that 50% of RotS just *looks* computery, is it not possible that those special effects will be seen in a worse light by future generations? Like, is it not possible that they could come up with a new way of doing things that would make RotS look cheesy in comparison?

 

 

I see what you're getting at...in fact, go back and watch Episode 2 again and you can ALREADY see exactly what you're talking about!

 

example: look at how crappy the CGI apple looked that Anakin floated over to pad-uh-may and watch as she eats it...

 

example: how wooden and goofy and stiff the Clonetroopers all looked...

 

 

oh and I also stand by the fact that, while Palpatine was stronger, Mace was able to best him at that very moment and was a slice away from ending it all...I mean, Vader was always better than Luke, but Luke was some how able to get it done...

 

 

One of the reasons the Clonetropers didn't look that good in Ep. 2 was because they had the art guys in the notion capture suits, acting like slodiers, and it didn't come across that well. As far as the graphics- yes, you can see a noticeable difference in some of the graphics between Pe 2 adn 3 (clonetroopers, Yoda, to a lesser extent).

 

What amazed me was the sheer amount of sets that were CG'd in- the opera house, Palpatine's office... heaal, all they had there was a few chairs, the rest was CG'd. It makes you wonder if it was cheaper to computer design the set that it is to build it.

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Apparently it is cheaper to go all CGI for a movie of this kind. Remember the budget, while being $115 million, it's relatively normal if you compare it to movies like Van Helsing or Spider-Man 2 ($200 million budget). In fact, Lucas has managed to keep the budget for all three prequels in the same money range. After all, he's the one that puts all the money on the films.

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While I won't deny that the Emperor is a better character, George Lucas himself says that Mace overpowered him in the lightsaber fight. What more do you want?

 

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That was as the scene was ORIGINALLY written, not in the finished product.

Lucas says that the Emperor was pretending to loose his power and be weak.

Its at 1:13:26.

 

 

 

Speaking of the commentary...

 

DVD COMMENTARY CHALLENGE:

Take a drink every time a producer points out that something is CGI.

See if you can get through 20 minutes of this movie without passing out.

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Hey, at least Ben Burtt wasn't on the commentary team. It makes the still-just-as-useless commentary at least listenable.

 

My main problem with the commentary is the lack of actors. Seriously, in the OT dvd's, you got Carrie Fisher (who could be hillarious), but that was it. How hard would it have been to get Christiansen, or McGregor, or McDirimd?

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I said it earlier in this thread. You cannot underestimate the manipulative powers of Palpatine. I have no problem believing that he put himself in that predicament to get Anakin to turn, and confident that he would do so. He masterminded and accelerated the collapse of the Republic. Is this such a stretch?

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