One and Only Star Wars Geekiness Thread

[Guest Vitamin X]

I'd be more interested in a final three rather than what takes place between Episodes III and IV. I mean, just about everything important happens in the movies, there's nothing I think can be done to be that exciting in the shows in between.

[Slayer 0]

Question is: If he were to make 7-9, would he go with the Zahn novels, which have been practically accepted as the quasi-canon 7-9 by this point, or would he go with his original ideas for 7-9?

[Mole 0]

What are the storylines for 7-9? From Zahn I guess, unless people know what Lucas knows.

[Anakin Flair 0]

Until such time as Lucas needs more money

 

 

So...they'll never get made.

[Anakin Flair 0]

What are the storylines for 7-9? From Zahn I guess, unless people know what Lucas knows.

 

 

I believe that he wrote the 'Thrawn Trilogy', though I'm not entirely sure what it was about.

[Black Lushus 0]

the Thrawn series is too good for Lucas to butcher all to hell...my guess is it takes place waaaaaay in the future with Solos kids or some point in the past with a young Yoda.

[nogoodnick 0]

Who would he use as actors if he made the Thrawn trilogy. Fisher, Hammil, and Ford are too old. It is a really good storyline though and would make a cool movie.

[Slayer 0]

That problem would arise for any type of movie involving the classic characters, Thrawn or otherwise

[Guest Vitamin X]

What happens in the Thrawn story and the Lucas one if anyone knows?

[CBright7831 0]

If they try to do Episode 7-9, you won't get Harrison Ford back. And Han Solo was a big part (to me at least) in the Original Trilogy. I say the movie should be Anakin's story and let it be

[Rendclaw 0]

Episodes 7 to 9 were allegedly Luke's fall to the Dark Side and Leia saving and redeeming him, about 10-20 years after Return of the Jedi. They can't do that with the original actors without it looking like shit on a stick.

 

I would be much more interested in a TV series based off of the Rogue Squadron books, but that won't happen even though Wedge would be in it from beginning to end, and that alone would be a major selling point, as it seems everyone loves Wedge.

 

Yes, Zahn wrote the Thrawn Trilogy, and did a damned good job of it too. One of the best things Lucas ever did was to give the green light to the EU.

[Slayer 0]

I wonder what the catalyst(s) would be for Luke to fall to the Dark Side

[Anakin Flair 0]

I'd like to read or see that story, actually. Sounds interesting.

[LivingLegendGaryColeman 0]

I wonder what the catalyst(s) would be for Luke to fall to the Dark Side

 

yeah, I'd wonder that too seeing as almost every temptation possible was thrown at him in the original trilogy until he "brought balance".

[pochorenella 0]

I'd like to read or see that story, actually. Sounds interesting.

 

It's widely available either in book form or comic-book (Trade Paperback) form. I have the three comic TPBs and have enjoyed them inmensely, although some people tell me the books are better. Either way you can check them out, you won't be disappointed.

[The Metal Maniac 0]

From what I understand, Luke doesn't exactly "fall" to the Dark Side...see, Palpatine is able to use his force powers to transfer his mind into another body, something he had apparantly been doing for years (he'd cloned himself, and transfer his mind into a fresh clone every now and again) and he managed to keep doing after Vader threw him down the shaft.

 

What ends up happening is that Luke realizes that there's no way he can beat an enemy who is essentially immortal, so he decides to "join" him, when he's really just trying to find some way to defeat him. However, the Dark Side being what it is, he eventually does start to fall into it until Leia helps him out.

 

I've only read general info about it on the net, but I think that's the jist of it.

[Art Sandusky 0]

^^^^

 

And this is why we leave things as they are.

[Art Sandusky 0]

And hearing that the new series is going to be "character-based" frightens me. I'm not entirely sold on a series anyway.

[Slayer 0]

I've posted this before, but this comic demonstrates why the idea of a SW series doesn't seem so hot after all

[Art Sandusky 0]

I'm more afraid of it going in a "wet dream for all the nerds you hate associating yourself with as a Star Wars fan" direction.

[Kaertos 0]

From what I understand, Luke doesn't exactly "fall" to the Dark Side...see, Palpatine is able to use his force powers to transfer his mind into another body, something he had apparantly been doing for years (he'd cloned himself, and transfer his mind into a fresh clone every now and again) and he managed to keep doing after Vader threw him down the shaft.

 

What ends up happening is that Luke realizes that there's no way he can beat an enemy who is essentially immortal, so he decides to "join" him, when he's really just trying to find some way to defeat him. However, the Dark Side being what it is, he eventually does start to fall into it until Leia helps him out.

 

I've only read general info about it on the net, but I think that's the jist of it.

 

That's the "Dark Empire" mini-series from Dark Horse Comics. The Zahn Trilogy is an entirely different storyline. Luke does not fall to the Dark Side. However, as good as it is there are still some craptacular things:

 

Some spoilers follow:

- A Mountain full of technlogy that the Empire just didn't want to use I guess.

- The ysalamiri, a little lizard thing that pushes away the Force (aka "stupid writer's plot to make Luke less cool 'cause Jedi are too powerful")

- One of the big bad guys is a clone of Luke (named, imaginatively, Luuke) that was cloned from the hand Vader chopped off in Cloud City. And, by the way, it was apparently still holding the lightsaber.

 

I like these novels, but there are things that make me cringe just because they seem so contrary to established Star Wars mythology. Then again, it shines likethe diamond of the EU compared to what came after it, particuarly the terrible "Jedi Search" Trilogy by Kevin Anderson. In interviews, he admitted that he had not seen the movies in years before he started writing and got all of his information from the West End Games RPG for Sar Wars.

[Justice 0]

Hmph.

 

If I wanted ANYTHING out of 7-9, I'd want Lucas to go ahead to just before Vector Prime and COMPLETELY NO-SELL that entire series. The Yuuzong Vong (However you spell it) and their entire concept and galaxy-destorying thing was simply the most moronic thing of all time for me.

 

I always thought the easy way to get around Jedis as being too powerful is simple:

 

USE LESS JEDI CHARACTERS, OR MAKE UP NEW ONES ON YOUR OWN, DAMN IT.

 

God, I hate reading any books about Luke or that group. The whole thing that caught me with the X-Wing Series was not Jedi (Though a few would eventually become them), but that it was a group of regular guys. Elite pilots, and some aliens, but still, they were not super-powered, and any of them could die. No one is going to kill off Luke or Han. Someone, though, might kill off Wedge. Or Corran Horn. Or any of Rogue Squadron.

 

In all honesty, they ruined the Star Wars Universe when they didn't drop Han, Luke, and Leia as the main characters (And yes, they are, even if they are around 50 or 60) and really try to establish new ones in the same way they did the old ones (A bunch of no names becoming galactic heros).

[CBright7831 0]

The biggest shock to come out of the books would have to be the death of Chewbacca.

[Guest Beingz0wningj00]

Curiosity in me speaking... how did he die and how far after RotJ was it.

[Black Lushus 0]

I believe it's the first book in the New Jedi Order series, "Vector Prime", which is a good 20 or so novels after ROTJ so it's not for a good ways down the line...he's, along with Solo's kids, on a planet that is getting ready to be destroyed and he sacrifices himself to get them off planet.

[Kaertos 0]

Most of the EU strikes me as "gimmick storytelling". Chewbacca's death is a perfect example. I have no doubt it was written as a heroic and noble death, but you know it didn't come organically out of the writing process. The entire situation was arranged so that one of the "main" characters would die.

 

However, by picking one of the "main" characters that wasn't one of the "big three", all they were saying was that they were not killing off Luke, Han or Leia.

 

I would love to think that, while writing the novel, the author saw the situation develop and didn't see any way to avoid killing off Chewie. But, as I said above, I doubt that was the case.

[Black Lushus 0]

while we're talking about random EU silliness, didn't one of the Solo twins turn to the dark side? The daughter, I believe...what ever happened with that?

 

mark me down as one guy that hated the ysalamari plot device...Zahn's novels are fantastic, don't get me wrong, but that shit almost seems like lazy writing!

Edited January 6, 2006 by Black Lushus

[Mole 0]

From what I understand, Luke doesn't exactly "fall" to the Dark Side...see, Palpatine is able to use his force powers to transfer his mind into another body, something he had apparantly been doing for years (he'd cloned himself, and transfer his mind into a fresh clone every now and again) and he managed to keep doing after Vader threw him down the shaft.

 

What ends up happening is that Luke realizes that there's no way he can beat an enemy who is essentially immortal, so he decides to "join" him, when he's really just trying to find some way to defeat him. However, the Dark Side being what it is, he eventually does start to fall into it until Leia helps him out.

 

I've only read general info about it on the net, but I think that's the jist of it.

Wow, that is just silly.

[CBright7831 0]

The only EU (after ROTJ that is) that I take as fact is Boba Fett survived the fall into the Sarlaac Pit.

[Anakin Flair 0]

while we're talking about random EU silliness, didn't one of the Solo twins turn to the dark side? The daughter, I believe...what ever happened with that?

 

mark me down as one guy that hated the ysalamari plot device...Zahn's novels are fantastic, don't get me wrong, but that shit almost seems like lazy writing!

 

 

This is a bit sketchy, since I haven't read that far in yet, but-

 

Durring the Yuzzahn Vong (sp?) war, Anakin Solo and a group of Jedi (including siblings JAina and Jacen Solo) head off to a mission to Myrkr (again, spelling) to gain intell on a Jedi-killing super-monster the Vong have created. In that mission Anakin is killed along with a couple of other Jedi, and JAcen is presumed killed (his Force-signature was blocked by Verger, who took him under his wing at the orders of the Vong and did a whole evil-Yoda training deal). The loss of her friends, and her brothers, pushed JAina over the edge and, for a little while she wen't to the Dark Side. How she was brought back, though, I have no clue.