cbacon 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Apparently this has been front-page news in Britain, but as far as I can tell it's getting virtually no media attention over here. A memo from July 2002 leaked in Britain written by a foreign policy aide discussing how the United States had already decided on and was building towards war and regime change in Iraq. The full memo, which probably shouldn't be surprising but which would almost certainly be grounds for Bush's impeachment if anyone in the American media cared, can be found here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1593607,00.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Yes, I trust British intel on AMERICAN "conspiracies". Bush wanted to remove Saddam? Well, NO FUCKING SHIT. It was OUR STATED GOVERNMENT POLICY. Hell, that was the case BEFORE Bush came to office. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Apparently this has been front-page news in Britain, but as far as I can tell it's getting virtually no media attention over here. A memo from July 2002 leaked in Britain written by a foreign policy aide discussing how the United States had already decided on and was building towards war and regime change in Iraq. The full memo, which probably shouldn't be surprising but which would almost certainly be grounds for Bush's impeachment if anyone in the American media cared, can be found here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1593607,00.html Haven't read PNAC yet? *tsk tsk* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Or they could have read the official US gov't policy initiated by Bill Clinton. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbacon 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Yes, I trust British intel on AMERICAN "conspiracies". Bush wanted to remove Saddam? Well, NO FUCKING SHIT. It was OUR STATED GOVERNMENT POLICY. You trust American intel on anything? Haven't read PNAC yet? *tsk tsk* Touchè Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Yes, I trust British intel on AMERICAN "conspiracies". Bush wanted to remove Saddam? Well, NO FUCKING SHIT. It was OUR STATED GOVERNMENT POLICY. You trust American intel on anything? Considering that British intel believed the same things, I'm not sure they'd be a better source for you. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Yes, I trust British intel on AMERICAN "conspiracies". Bush wanted to remove Saddam? Well, NO FUCKING SHIT. It was OUR STATED GOVERNMENT POLICY. You trust American intel on anything? You also, as expected, ignore Duelfer's findings about how much corruption was involved with Oil-For-Food and France's promise --- in writing, no less --- to veto any action against Iraq. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2005 One of the ads at the bottom of this page was for a Noam Chomsky book. I found that really funny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbacon 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Yes, I trust British intel on AMERICAN "conspiracies". Bush wanted to remove Saddam? Well, NO FUCKING SHIT. It was OUR STATED GOVERNMENT POLICY. You trust American intel on anything? You also, as expected, ignore Duelfer's findings about how much corruption was involved with Oil-For-Food and France's promise --- in writing, no less --- to veto any action against Iraq. -=Mike Maybe it's because I never said anything about oil-for-food or france? Seriously, what has that got to do with anything? Everyone's well aware of what the French line was, it's not like it was a secret. One of the ads at the bottom of this page was for a Noam Chomsky book. I found that really funny The book in question (Hegemony or Survival) is really worth the read, even if your a staunch conservative. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Yes, I trust British intel on AMERICAN "conspiracies". Bush wanted to remove Saddam? Well, NO FUCKING SHIT. It was OUR STATED GOVERNMENT POLICY. You trust American intel on anything? You also, as expected, ignore Duelfer's findings about how much corruption was involved with Oil-For-Food and France's promise --- in writing, no less --- to veto any action against Iraq. -=Mike Maybe it's because I never said anything about oil-for-food or france? Seriously, what has that got to do with anything? Everyone's well aware of what the French line was, it's not like it was a secret. If you're going to mention the report --- which you did --- let's not ignore certain key parts of the report. The book in question (Hegemony or Survival) is really worth the read, even if your a staunch conservative. No, it's REALLY not. Not even if you're a vapid lib. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Uh, congrats, you've stated the completely obvious? Like Mike has said, this sort of policy has been in line since the Clinton Administration. Having a STARTLING MEMO detailing how we already had plans and were already getting logistics in place doesn't really surprise me. Why? Despite the lack of a good rebuilding effort, good campaign plans aren't just drawn up overnight. The reason we win these conflicts is because we plan them out long in advance. I detailed a long time ago why Iraq was a threat to Mid East stability (The one where you miserably fizzled out trying to say that we should have let the Iraqis do it on their own ten years down the line), so it's really not a big jump to think that they were already in the planning stages. Hell, that's probably the most reassuring news I've heard in a while about our military. If there's the possibility of an invasion, they start planning it months in advance. Thank the Lord! Hopefully they'll spend that much time on the rebuilding phase next time. So, I guess the answer to the title of this is "More fun with non-reporting" because, put quite simply, this is non-news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2005 I wonder if C-Bacon went to Canada because England didn't want him anymore. One of the ads at the bottom of this page was for a Noam Chomsky book. I wonder if I start a thread if there will be an ad for a George Will book... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites