How does Nash as MVP

[CanadianGuitarist 0]

A guy my brother works with says it was one of the top 5 moments in Canadian sport.

 

It doesn't make my general top 10, but it is my number 8 in exclusively Canadian moments.

 

To Yanks on this board, does a Yankee winning an NHL award make you feel more pride as an American?

[The Electrifyer 0]

I am very happy for the whole situation. I like Nash, and it's not just the fact that he's Canadian, but also that he's a point guard that makes me happy. What I mainly hope that comes out of this is basketball getting more exposure in Canada. I've never really liked hockey, and basketball has been my favourite sport but it barely got any coverage in the big sport channels like TSN and Sportsnet. I hope this, coupled with the hockey strike give the NBA more of an opportunity to shine in Canada now.

[The Czech Republic 0]

To Yanks on this board, does a Yankee winning an NHL award make you feel more pride as an American?

Not really. I mean, I just don't see it as any sort of competition between countries.

[CanadianGuitarist 0]

To Yanks on this board, does a Yankee winning an NHL award make you feel more pride as an American?

Not really. I mean, I just don't see it as any sort of competition between countries.

Well, I've never seen it as a competition either, but Mike Weir winning the 2003 Masters was obviously a big deal because he did something illustrious and is Canadian.

 

I'm waiting for the "no, because canada sucks" post. Please bite your tongue.

[The Czech Republic 0]

I don't mind Canada.

[Lightning Flik 0]

No. Canada sucks at anything other than hockey.

 

Do we win at other sports? Nope. Why? Because all our development and love for sports goes into hockey.

[CanadianChris 0]

I think it's terrific for Nash, and he pretty much sewed up the Conacher Award for himself, but I don't consider it a great moment or anything, because I don't really get all excited about awards in the first place. Ask me again if he manages to lead the Suns to the NBA title.

[starvenger 0]

I think it's great for Steve, and he definitely picked the right year to make a case for winning it (seeing as there's a hockey lockout and all), but I think it's a point of pride only for Victoria, BC, since they can do the "local boy makes good" story.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

A guy my brother works with says it was one of the top 5 moments in Canadian sport.

 

It doesn't make my general top 10, but it is my number 8 in exclusively Canadian moments.

 

To Yanks on this board, does a Yankee winning an NHL award make you feel more pride as an American?

 

As global as the NBA is these days, the MVP of the league could be from Europe or Africa anymore, although its sorta surprising that a Canadian would win it.

 

Then again, a Canadian won the NL Cy Young 2 years ago..so obviously Canadians are diversifying their sports, which is good considering where the NHL is right now.

[nl5xsk1 0]

I think that I'd be more stoked if a Bruin (regardless of his country of origin) won the Hart than I would be an American that played for another team ... but truthfully, I don't think it really works to compare American fandom to Canadian fandom, the mindsets of the two countries are just too different.

 

It seems that Canadians have more national pride when it comes to non-International sporting events (basically, mean other than the Olympics or int'l competitions) ... like in the Stanley Cup last year, it seemed that it was all of Canada vs. Tampa Bay, where-as a lot of American hockey fans were rooting for the Flames rather than just root "American".

 

So, having said that, I don't think many Americans care that it went to a "foreigner" rather than to an American-born player, but I did think that you all North of the Border would be stoked about it.

[starvenger 0]

So, having said that, I don't think many Americans care that it went to a "foreigner" rather than to an American-born player, but I did think that you all North of the Border would be stoked about it.

Well, we didn't party in the streets when Gagne won the Cy Young, so I think it's only fair that we do the same for Nash...

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

This is the single-biggest sporting achievement on the global level by a Canadian professional athlete ever. Sure some will say Mike Weir, but golf sucks, and hockey is a factor is so few countries that anything we do there isn't very important. MLB achievements are not as great simply because of the awards being given for both leagues.

 

This is great for Canadian basketball.

[The Czech Republic 0]

You're saying that scrawny floppy-hair Steve Nash winning a season MVP award is a bigger achievement than anything Wayne Gretzky did?? I disagree.

[nl5xsk1 0]

I disagree every bit as much as Czech does ... what Nash did was great for Canadian basketball. What Gretzky did was great for the entire sport.

[Guest El Satanico]

I have nothing to add to the discussion, but Shaq's reaction and comments after a reporter told him about Nash winning was some funny stuff.

[Ripper 0]

I disagree every bit as much as Czech does ... what Nash did was great for Canadian basketball.  What Gretzky did was great for the entire sport.

What Nash did was great for the entire sport. It takes away that "big man gotta win it" or "big time scorer got to win it" vibe the MVP trophy has had for a long time.

 

The way Jason Kidd got ROBBED 3 years ago( i mean come on, the fucking NETS went from lottery to finals with ONE major acquisition.) its good to see a traditional point guard get some love. John Stockton never got the credit he deserved for the Jazz while Karl fucking Malone has TWO MVP trophies(or is it one....who cares the point still stands).

[Guest news_gimmick]

I agree with the Jason Kidd robbery from a couple years ago, because he had impact on the Nets just like Nash had on the Suns this season. He made them a winner for the first time in 20 years and was just as deserving of the MVP then as Nash is now.

[nl5xsk1 0]

I disagree every bit as much as Czech does ... what Nash did was great for Canadian basketball.  What Gretzky did was great for the entire sport.

What Nash did was great for the entire sport. It takes away that "big man gotta win it" or "big time scorer got to win it" vibe the MVP trophy has had for a long time.

But that's regardless of Nash's being a Canadian or not ... and the question was how it made people feel as a Canuck. If the question was about how Nash winning made you feel as a short person, then it'd make sense to say that it went against the big man routine.

 

What I meant by Gretzky setting records was great for the sport was it gave a whole generation of fans a chance to see the greatest of all time play the game. Like seeing Jordan. Or seeing Ruth/Mays/Bonds/whomever you view the greatest baseball player as. Or Pele.

[Guest Rrrsh]

It was the second best single season accoplishment in Canadian History (Next to The Great One)

[Red Baron 0]

What about Weir's dominance in 03 or Villenueve in 97? I mean sure they don't really stand up against the big four, but they had lots of impact into their sport/game from a Canadian standpoint

[Guest Rrrsh]

Jacque didn't do his here and never performed here. That hurt him

 

Wier was only really important in Ontario. Anywhere but, it was reall cool. But really, he won one major and nothing since. He was hot for a month and a half, that really hurt him.

[Red Baron 0]

Hot for a month?

 

I'm sorry...but five tournament victories including a major, and two top ten finishes at the US and British Open that year as well, and third on the money list. He was more consitant than Tiger Woods that year.

[Guest Rrrsh]

He won 5? Are you sure, I am pretty sure he won 3, none after the Masters.

 

Bottom line, Tiger is more important here in Vancouver than Weir. He is a second teir player and has never been player of the year. Nash is not viewed that way.

[Red Baron 0]

Tiger is more recent.

 

If he never won the Masters this year, most people wouldn't be talking about it.

[Guest Rrrsh]

What I am saying is that Tiger is the #1 guy out here, not Wier. Nash is the #1 Basketball player, Walker is #1 for baseball.

[Red Baron 0]

and if Tiger didn't win the Masters, would he be as popular now than in 2002?

[Guest Rrrsh]

Yes. He is the face of Golf here. The eqivilant ot the Yankees. Everyone always cares about him.

[Guest Brian]

Yes. He is the face of Golf here. The eqivilant ot the Yankees. Everyone always cares about him.

Except that people hate the Yanks.

[Guest Rrrsh]

Well, yah. But I meant that when people think of Golf, its Tiger. I wasnt trying to compare their popularity. Just thier signifigance.

[iggymcfly 0]

I just want to say that back when the earlier question was if Americans would feel pride about someone from their country winning individual awards, the answer is not at all. Americans are secure enough about our country that it doesn't really mean anything just for someone "from here" to do something.

 

I was actually really happy for Nash as I've always followed his career, and I really loved him when he was with the Mavs. The only person I'd rather see win the MVP now, is of course Dirk, who as we know is from Germany.

 

In the NHL, my favorite player now is Daniel Alfredsson, (from Canada), and before that, my favorite players were Pavel Bure and Alexei Yashin (both from Russia). In fact, while I didn't directly root against the US, I remember staying up late to watch Olympic hockey games to cheer on the Russian national team because I wanted to see Yashin and Bure do well, while I really didn't pay that much attention to what the USA squad was doing in the same Olympics.

 

Oh, and just for good measure, I rooted for Calgary in the last Stanley Cup Finals, purely because I wanted to see a Canadian team win the Cup again, because I felt bad for the hardships they face putting together a decent-sized payroll up there. Although, even as an American, Calgary's probably my closest NHL city, so I guess I've got more reason to feel kinship with them than someone living in South Beach would.