Tyson vs McBride

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Why? Because Tyson happened to lose?

[Guest Brian]

There's absolutely no reason to have the fight fixed, because Tyson needed to pay off the government.

[Precious Roy 0]

Tyson can make as much money whoring himself out to reality TV, writing a book, etc. etc. as he could boxing at this point. He's been done for years, he knows he's done, he knows people tune in for the circus/car crash aspect, so he got his $5mil for a meaningless fight and is getting out. There was no reason for him to win this fight. As much money as he might owe the IRS, he's still going to be well off for the rest of his life, that's just the way it goes with people in his position

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

I'd say Tyson could make far more from boxing than he could from just about anything else. If the fight was going to be fixed, it would have been fixed for Tyson to win, and easily. Then the pattern would have been repeated long enough for Tyson to get a 'World' Title shot, and the $$$ would really be rolling in then.

[Prophet of Mike Zagurski 0]

Are you guys trying to say that Mike is trying to put boxers over?

 

My dad says he won't stop trying to box.

 

Boxing needs a new draw.

[Guest Brian]

Boxing needs a lot of things. I think a draw is secondary considering the title situation.

[UZI Suicide 0]

If it was fixed he'd just fight a bunch of fixed fights where he wins, to pay off all his debts completely. Why the fuck would they fix a fight where he loses?

[Zetterberg is God 0]

This is kind of shocking. I saw an interview with Tyson on "In This Corner"(a great show for Canadian boxing fans) and he looked focused and ready to go. I honestly thought he could claw his way back to a title shot but it looks like he's done.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

If it was fixed he'd just fight a bunch of fixed fights where he wins,  to pay off all his debts completely. Why the fuck would they fix a fight where he loses?

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I think some people are trying to come up with a way to explain Tyson losing that doesn't involve facing up to the fact that Tyson is so broken down that he can't even beat someone who may be the lowest ranked boxer in the western hemisphere.

[Guest Brian]

It's sad. But you know what? At least I can say I saw Tyson in his prime, like my dad could say he saw Ali in his prime.

[Downhome 0]

When was the last truly great "classic" fight?

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

It's sad. But you know what? At least I can say I saw Tyson in his prime, like my dad could say he saw Ali in his prime.

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Comparing Tyson to Ali is laughable. That's all I have to say on that certain note.

 

The fight went as expected, as I didn't think Tyson had that much in his tank, but goddamn was that a lame finish.

[Guest *KNK*]

It's amazing to realize we still follow this sad character around, in a way Mike Tyson, as despicable as he is is always a polarizing character for American lore and that's why alot of people still feel sympathy for this guy, we can see somewhere in his body that warrior still yearns to roar but we realize he is broken down now.

 

"Iron" Mike Tyson is done. Is he out of the american spotlight? not a chance. If Tyson needs to pay those bills off, he'll find his way to work into america's hearts and mind again somehow.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

If Mike Tyson doesn't kill himself within the next year or so, I'll be amazed.

[TheFranchise 0]

Dont worry AoO, some unknown jobber will do it in eight months.

[Guest Fishyswa]

I don't see him fighting again, this was the low of the low, he HAD to beat him if he wanted to start moving up, and he just gave up. Unless he goes on some spiritual quest and regains his passion for beating people, this has got to be the end.

 

Really sad, I would of loved to see him climb his way back to the top.

[King Kamala 0]

Now, where does everybody see McBride going? I see him challenging Hasim Rahman, after Rahman basically laughed him off before, during and after the fight, for a title shot against Klitschko. Then, McBride will get knocked out in the first two rounds and ride back into journeyman land. Either that or some "genius" will put together a Danny Williams Vs Kevin McBride bout *shudders*

[cabbageboy 0]

McBride is basically Peter McNeeley if McNeeley got to fight a broken down bum Tyson instead of a pissed off Tyson fresh from prison. Hell, maybe Tyson should give ole Pete a rematch and job out to that bum as well.

 

McBride will probably get some sort of title shot due to this "huge" win. He'll get beat down of course.

 

Personally what boxing desperately needs to do is unify all these world titles. God, it isn't wrestling...they can unify the titles and then have one guy everyone is gunning for.

[King Kamala 0]

I wish God Damn Chris Byrd and his promoters would stop pussyfooting around and get to signing a rematch with Vitali Klitschko. To me, those guys are the only somewhat legit heavyweights as of now.

[AboveAverage484 0]

I don't think McBride gains much respect from the fight world in this. Tyson won rounds 4 and 5 and I think he quit just because he didn't want to gas out later on in the fight and get KO'd. It almost looked like he wanted to get DQ'ed because he kept throwing headbutts and grabbing McBride's arm.

 

Tyson is pretty much finished now, though.

[Vern Gagne 0]

Tyson vs Holyfield III

[cabbageboy 0]

Oh God, that'd be for the pure masochists out there. And yes, I realize that hardcore boxing fans won't give McBride any credit here but to John Q. Redneck beating Tyson means something.

 

I'm hazy on this but when was the last time Tyson actually held a title? Was it when he lost to Buster Douglas? Or did he have a title of some sort during the Holyfield ear biting period?

[Guest Dumb Monkey]

Tyson beat Frank Bruno for one of the Heavyweight Belts in the summer of 1996, and lost it to Evander Holyfield that November. He had another fight in September which lasted 1 Round, but I don't know if he won another belt in it.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

McBride is basically Peter McNeeley if McNeeley got to fight a broken down bum Tyson instead of a pissed off Tyson fresh from prison.  Hell, maybe Tyson should give ole Pete a rematch and job out to that bum as well.

 

McBride will probably get some sort of title shot due to this "huge" win.  He'll get beat down of course. 

 

Personally what boxing desperately needs to do is unify all these world titles.  God, it isn't wrestling...they can unify the titles and then have one guy everyone is gunning for.

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Forget unifying the titles. The organizations are corrupt. Lennox Lewis already unified the titles. At that point, the ABC organizations are dead and buried. Just wait until we either see Klitschko/Byrd, or one heavyweight clearly dominates the field, and just declare your own champion.

 

Why people feel they need to lend credibility to an organization that thinks John Ruiz is a world champion is beyond me.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

You really don't like John Ruiz, do you? That's how I feel about Byrd.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

You really don't like John Ruiz, do you? That's how I feel about Byrd.

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The man is the cockroach of the heavyweight division. Even if he loses, he still manages to keep the belt. And this despite not defeating anyone more impressive than Hasim Rahman (who is now in line for another shot apparently, despite not beating anyone better than Cruiserweight Al Cole since the Lewis upset).

 

Both Byrd and Ruiz are boring fighters. Byrd at least has a win over Vitali, and a little credibility.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

A bullshit win, too. Plus he runs during his fights and is afraid of getting tagged. Ruiz just gets in someone's grill and doesn't let any real shots get thrown. It's confounding and dull as fuck, but I'd rather watch that than Byrd duck and cover after throwing a few double jabs. 'Least Ruiz gets in some dirty ones.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Tyson vs. Ruiz: PPV.

[Lei Tong 0]

Byrd's win over Vitali is bullshit in what way? Vitali isn't the sole guy to hurt himself by whizzing punches past Byrd, just the only one to quit because of it.

 

In regards to competition, I've said it once and I'll say it again: Ruiz' resume stands up with pretty much anyone's at HW.

 

Ruiz:

Holyfield- This was still relatively close to Evander's career resurgance, having beaten Tyson, Moorer, Bean & going the distance twice with Lennox Lewis.

Johnson- undefeated with a couple of solid wins, and unlike when Vitali beat him 15 months later, came in at a relatively decent 238lbs.

Rahman- in the middle of a slide, though he was arguably screwed in his draw v. Tua, and afterwards started his current winning streak.

Oquendo- a few solid wins, and a controversial loss to Byrd in a bout some argued he won.

Golota- Had just gone to a draw with Byrd that people thought was controversial as well.

 

All of those guys were ranked in the Top 10 when Ruiz beat them. Compare that to Bryd who's been winning mostly close and sometimes arguable fights lately; Vitali, who's biggest wins have been out-of-shape former contenders; and Brewster, who outside of the Golota destruction & Wladimir upset is most notable for a gift decision over Meehan and losses to Shufford & Etienne.

 

Ruiz is an ugly fighter, but an effective one when he's not trying to open up vs. quicker & better boxers.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

My beef with Ruiz is that he gets opportunities he clearly does not deserve. He loses to Evander Holyfield, but gets an immediate re-match. He loses to Roy Jones Jr., but when Jones vacates the title Ruiz gets the first shot. Before Ruiz got the first "title" shot at Holyfield, his most impressive victory was over 39-year old Tony Tucker. The best fighter Ruiz ever faced knocked him flat in 19 seconds. If he can beat top competition, that's good. But I'm tired of guys earning their spots, and then fighting the top boxers if it is convenient.

 

That's what is wrong with the heavyweight division right now. Klitschko needs to fight Byrd. One of those guys needs to fight Ruiz. Someone else needs to step up. So far Klitschko has fought Danny Williams and Corrie Sanders. Woo-hoo. Chris Byrd is the only heavyweight titleholder with a fight even scheduled, and that's against a no-name Russian in September.

 

Tyson's washed-up, but at least he had the decency to take a fight.