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The first shot was fired in August 2002, at an International Olympic Committee meeting in Lausanne, Switzerland. It was a simple proposal by the IOC's Program Commission to improve the Summer Games by adding two of the world's most popular sports: golf and rugby. To make room, the commission recommended eliminating three existing Olympic sports: baseball, modern pentathlon and softball. That's when the trouble began.

 

The proposal stirred up such a hornet's nest that it never came to a vote three months later at an IOC session in Mexico City. The episode proved again that while the Olympic family has been terrific at broadening its program to include everything from taekwondo to circus events such as synchronized swimming and trampoline, it has been incapable of seriously considering whether those, or other sports, really belong in the Games. No sport has been removed from the Olympics since polo got the ax after the 1936 Games.

 

Consequently, the Summer Olympics have become supersized. Athlete participation has ballooned 63% in the last 20 years, from 6,802 in Los Angeles in 1984 to the record 11,099 in Athens last year (which exceeded the supposed limit of 10,500 that the IOC adopted three years ago). Seven sports were added in that span: table tennis and tennis (1988), badminton and baseball ('92), softball ('96) and taekwondo and triathlon (2000).

 

Hosting the Olympics has become so gargantuan a task that cities and countries can go deep into hock to hold them; IOC president Jacques Rogge has long been concerned that the size and cost have made it impossible for smaller, poorer nations ever to host the Games. Yet when faced with the prospect of voting out three small federations in Mexico City, delegate after delegate spoke passionately in their defense. In response, recalls Jim Easton, one of three U.S. representatives on the 116-member IOC, "President Rogge wisely said, 'Let's go back and look at all the sports, not just these three.'"

 

That's exactly what the IOC has done -- and for the first time some Summer Games federations are worried about the Olympic future of their sports. At its early July meeting in Singapore, the same session at which the 2012 host city will be chosen, the IOC membership will hold an unprecedented vote, by secret ballot, on the fate of all 28 Summer Olympic sports. Aquatics, in or out? Archery, yea or nay? And so on, through wrestling. A sport will need more than 50% of the votes to remain on the program for 2012; if any sport is voted out, the IOC Executive Board will nominate a replacement from the five sports on the official waiting list: golf, karate, roller sports (road racing on inline skates), rugby (the seven-to-a-side version) and squash. The replacement sport will need two-thirds support to be added to the Olympic family; if it gets that, it will need only a simple majority in a second vote to be added to the 2012 program.

 

The IOC has tried to be methodical in analyzing which sports deserve to remain in -- or be added to -- the Games. (No sport can be added unless another is removed; at that 2002 Mexico City session Rogge succeeded in getting a 28-sport, 301-event cap placed on the Summer Olympics.) Last fall the Program Commission sent a questionnaire to all Summer Games sports federations as well as governing bodies of the five waiting-list sports, asking them for information in 33 areas, including ticket sales, media coverage, venue costs, television production costs, environmental impact and gender equity. The resulting report, due to be sent to IOC members this month, will not rank the sports by desirability or present its own conclusions; nevertheless, some federations are concerned that the inevitable comparisons could turn sports against one another and damage the Games.

 

Members of the Association of Summer Olympic International Federations (ASOIF) are so upset that a vote on their future is even being taken that the organization's president, Denis Oswald, called a special ASOIF session for this week in Geneva to try to clear the air. Outspoken former international sailing federation president Paul Henderson fired off an angry letter to the heads of the federations in support of ASOIF members, saying the IOC vote reduces the federations to "the level of beggars." Passionately expressing the sports federations' sense of entitlement, he wrote, "IFs [international federations] hold Sport together every day of every year so that the IOC can come along at the end of each Quadrennium and supply the Fireworks. Yes IFs are rewarded financially for what IFs bring to the table, but it is our right, not a handout from the IOC." (Sailing, interestingly, sent 400 athletes to the Athens Olympics -- roughly the number for golf, karate, roller sports, rugby and squash if all were added to the Games.)

 

Elimination from the Olympics would mean the loss of both the prestige of participating on the world's largest athletic stage and the substantial financial rewards cited by Henderson. Television revenue from Athens enabled the IOC to fork over a record $256 million to ASOIF members for the next quadrennium, a pie divvied up on the basis of a sport's size and popularity. Track and field took home the largest slice, $25.7 million; aquatics (swimming, diving, synchronized swimming and water polo), basketball, cycling, gymnastics, soccer, tennis and volleyball got $12.5 million each, and so on. Some of the IOC funding is used to broaden the popularity of sports -- buying softball equipment for schools in Kazakhstan, for example. But a significant portion also goes to pay the administrative expenses of the federations, 16 of which happen to be headquartered in Switzerland, home of the IOC. It's all very chummy, or traditionally has been.

 

Rogge has found himself caught between the 28 current sports and the five would-be additions. After the Executive Board met in Berlin in April to decide the voting procedures, he seemingly bent over backward to reassure the former: "There should be no anxiety. Reading the [Program Commission] report, I have only one conclusion: We have very strong federations, and strong federations should have nothing to fear."

 

Rogge later said he wasn't trying to send a message with that assessment. But his comments took some of the sports trying to get into the Games by surprise. "If one had to handicap it, it sounds like no one's going to be voted out," says David Fay, joint secretary of the International Golf Federation. "It makes you wonder why we went through the process."

 

The waiting-list sports have been lobbying for their cause, and rugby appears to have created the strongest buzz, with golf running second. "There's a lot of talk about rugby sevens being the first one in," says Easton. Both rugby and golf have been in the Olympics before -- rugby from 1900 to '24, golf in 1900 and '04. And while golf got a thumbs-up from the Program Commission to be a medal sport at the 1996 Atlanta Games, that proposal was scuttled after many people, including Anita DeFrantz, the senior IOC member from the U.S., learned that the Olympic tournament would be played at all-male Augusta National. Says DeFrantz, "My issue was with Augusta, not golf."

 

Rugby's World Cup (for 15-man teams) is the third most watched sporting event on television, after the Olympics and soccer's World Cup. Golf's television ratings over the past decade have never been higher. Both sports have upscale demographics, which could boost Olympic sponsorship. Neither relies on judging -- a plus -- and both are known for good sportsmanship. Rogge played rugby. Tiger plays golf.

 

But golf has issues. Both the PGA and the European PGA tours are against its inclusion in the Olympics, since once every four years it would take the spotlight off one of their regular events. And even Fay, who is also executive director of the USGA, admits, "The Olympics should be the pinnacle of a sport, and no one could say that about golf without having his nose grow. But if tennis is in, golf should be in."

 

Rugby has a stronger case. A rugby sevens game can be played in just 15 minutes -- 14 minutes of running time plus a one-minute halftime. The Olympic championship would be the pinnacle of rugby sevens competition, so the best players would attend. And the entire 12-team tournament could be played in two days. Moreover, it wouldn't require new facilities: The games could be played on the soccer fields used during that sport's preliminary rounds. "Everything we've heard about our proposal has been favorable," says Doug Arnot, head of USA Rugby. "The biggest hurdle will be whether someone is kicked off the island."

 

Illogically, because of the way the voting is set up, some of the sports most often ridiculed by fans as unworthy of being in the Games -- synchronized swimming, rhythmic gymnastics, trampoline -- won't be in any jeopardy in the balloting. Just as synchro is classified by the IOC as an event within aquatics, so are rhythmic gymnastics and trampoline considered events within gymnastics. IOC members will never vote out such marquee sports as aquatics and gymnastics. That's not to say that the reevaluation process won't focus attention on the much-lampooned sports and perhaps force the IOC to take a harder look at them.

 

So who should be ousted in the July vote? "Any sport that doesn't send its best athletes to the Games," Arnot offers. "The IOC wants the Olympics to be the top of the mountain."

 

Baseball and soccer fall short of that standard, but soccer is too popular globally to eliminate. Baseball looks more vulnerable; it has little support in Europe, where more than 40% of IOC members reside, and top major leaguers will never be given time off in midseason to take part in the Olympics.

 

Softball and modern pentathlon, the other sports targeted in 2002, have marshaled considerable support since and now seem secure enough to pass the vote. In the latter case members seem sympathetic to a tiny sport that is so vulnerable and so embedded in the Games' fabric. (Modern pentathlon was created specifically for the Olympics by Games founder Baron Pierre de Coubertin.) "I respect President Rogge for taking on this issue," says Bob Ctvrtlik, a former volleyball player and the junior IOC member from the U.S. "He's trying to keep a modern program, and all you're doing by advocating for change is making enemies. But it'll be very difficult to get half the members to vote a sport off. The problem is, you could really put an end to a sport like modern pentathlon with a no vote."

 

While other sports have been mentioned as candidates for removal -- taekwondo, for one, which has just been through an embezzlement scandal involving its federation's former president, and even boxing, which has been rife with judging fiascos -- the recent backpedaling by Rogge suggests that all 28 Olympic sports could survive the July vote, though perhaps not unscathed. "I think he's positioning himself for the future," says Easton of the reform-minded IOC president. "Some of the fury will have subsided, and everyone will be a little more receptive to change. Unless there's a problem they're not addressing, I think all the sports that are in now should stay. For this vote I think the message is, Shape up or ship out."

 

WHY would the IOC want to get rid of baseball and softball? Softball is a very popular women's sport and basically the only one I'll watch. And BASEBALL? Right now, some can argue that it is one of the world's most popular sport.

 

I would like golf to be an Olympic sport. Even though our top golfer, Tiger, wouldn't play.

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Softball is pretty much just an exhibition for the U.S. women to show off. I don't know if I would axe it, but it deserves consideration. Baseball? Hard to say. The Olympic version is as watered down as you can get. AA baseball is a better game than what I saw at the '04 Olympics.

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Lots of history in those...eight years.

 

Seriously, getting rid of Olympic baseball would be like contracting the Devil Rays. Both in terms of how old the teams are (the Devil Rays came into existence in 98) as well as the quality of baseball on the field.

 

Except Carl Crawford.

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Lots of history in those...eight years.

 

Seriously, getting rid of Olympic baseball would be like contracting the Devil Rays. Both in terms of how old the teams are (the Devil Rays came into existence in 98) as well as the quality of baseball on the field.

 

Except Carl Crawford.

 

And Baldelli.

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They have talent, but they just seem to balance it enough with guys whose talent has dissolved.

 

Kazmir, Crawford, Baldelli, Upton, Young, and Niemann are very good to great prospects. But they can't field a team on potential, they have to play it out. The chances of all six of these players making the impact they are expected to can't be good.

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Events no longer active:

 

Cricket (1900)

Croquet/Roque (1896, 1900)

Golf (1900-1904)

Jeu de paume (court tennis - 1908)

Lacrosse (1904, 1908)

Pelote Basque (jai alai - 1900)

Polo (1900, 1908, 1920, 1924, 1936)

Powerboating (1908)

Racquets (1908)

Rugby football (1900, 1908, 1920, 1924)

Tug-of-war (1900-1920)

 

Demonstrated Sports

 

American Football - 1932

Australian Football - 1956

Baseball* - 1904, 1912, 1936, 1952, 1956, 1964, 1984 and 1988

Badminton* - 1972

Basketball* - 1904

Basque pelota - 1924, 1968 and 1992

Budo - 1964

Canoe/kayak* - 1924

Field Handball - 1952

Gliding - 1936

Korfball - 1920, 1928

Lacrosse - 1928, 1932, and 1948

Roller Hockey - 1992

Taekwando* - 1992

Tennis* - 1968 and 1984

Water Skiing - 1972

Women's Judo* - 1988

 

I think its interesting to see what sports have been at the Olympics..WTF is KORFBALL?

 

 

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If golf were a woman, I would think exclusively with my dick.

 

But I cant see it as an Olympic sport.

 

Possibly because I think the Olympics should be for amateurs, I'm not sure.

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Indeed. Shooting someone in the asshole with a BB gun from 20 yards takes some skill.

 

Isn't a sport.

 

 

Synchronized swimming and walking are DEFINITELY not sports.

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Possibly because I think the Olympics should be for amateurs, I'm not sure.

 

When did it become OK to play in the Olympics despite playing professionally? I can't think of a specific start to the trend aside from the birth the U.S. Dream Team in basketball.

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Possibly because I think the Olympics should be for amateurs, I'm not sure.

 

When did it become OK to play in the Olympics despite playing professionally? I can't think of a specific start to the trend aside from the birth the U.S. Dream Team in basketball.

 

I think it is up to the governing bodies in each particular sport.

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