Brock Lesnar Returning to WWE

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

To make the most money off of Brock's return and a WM 22 main event against Batista, neither man can be beaten before the match happens. To make the most money, to get the biggest number of casual fans to buy WM 22, and hardcores will buy it anyway, the casual fans have to be able to believe that they are watching two unbeatable monsters go at it, with the lure being that one of these men, finally, will be beaten. If either man has a loss going into the match, then it's going to be a little difficult for the casuals to believe that, and you're not going to get quite as many buys, and therefore not make as much money. After all, if one of them has been beaten, it doesn't mean as much for the other to beat them as well after someone else has already done it.

 

Is the very simple fact that the most money to be made off of this match needs both men going into WM 22 unbeaten really that hard for some people to grasp?

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Like you said, HTQ, Precious Roy would make for a shitty promoter. But hey, I'm the moron here...

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

I don't know what was funnier; his citing iggymcfly as an example of common sense, or his attempt at trying to look cool/funny by quoting from Pulp Fiction.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

The question we really need to ask is: Does he look like a bitch because of it?

[Fökai 0]

The RR is the perfect place to bring back Brock - you get him interacting with both sides of the roster, it'll draw a big number, and it still doesn't specify where he's going - so that when he wins, when he chooses to face Batista, there will be some momentum going for it.

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The problem with winning the Rumble is (if it can considered a problem), why does he choose Batista? I'm sure that Cena will still be holding the WWE belt by then, which is the one that Brock held.

 

This is also taking in consideration that Brock has a history with Cena, not Batista, and has the upperhand on Cena, the top face of the company. Since the last time they've met, the roles are *completely* reversed (Cena - the 'rebel' heel of the brand, now the 'kissing babies' face of the company, exact opposite for Brock.)

[Mystery Eskimo 0]

What would even be the point of jobbing Brock, other than it might be unexpected? How ridiculous.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

What would even be the point of jobbing Brock, other than it might be unexpected? How ridiculous.

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It would succeed in reducing the drawing potential of a Brock v Batista WM 22 main event. Quite why anyone with a brain would want to do that, I don't know.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

What would even be the point of jobbing Brock, other than it might be unexpected? How ridiculous.

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It would succeed in reducing the drawing potential of a Brock v Batista WM 22 main event. Quite why anyone with a brain would want to do that, I don't know.

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But...but... it won't hurt Brock to job to Taker or Benoit! Yeah I don't understand why it is hard for some people to understand the concept of two unbeaten men facing each other=$$$. I guess Precious Roy thinks Hogan should have been jobbing to Randy Savage prior to facing Andre at Mania III.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

What you see as a boost for the legitimacy of pro wrestling might be considered a taint on MMA for associating itself with "the fake sport".

 

Nah, wrestlers and MMA stars have affiliated for a while now. Goldberg being in the corner of Wes Sims, being friends with Mark Coleman, hanging out backstage at UFC shows. UFC features WWE wrestlers on camera as "celebs". Numberous MMA fighters have crossed over into wrestling and back into MMA with little to no consequence. Besides, Brock earned his stripes in the amatuer field, there would be nothing but respect for him.

 

As for "why would Brock want to fight Batista". Well, see, Brock likes a challenge. He left the WWE for a challege. He achieved all he could ever dream in the WWE - he won the KOTR, he won the RR, he won the title at wrestlemania. But now there is Batista - a guy of equal size and strength - who could possibly push Brock to the farthest reaches of his ability.

[claydude14 0]

And he's already been WWE champion and beat Cena before. The World Heavyweight title is something he did not hold while he was here last, and Batista someone he hasn't beat. It'd make more sense for him to choose Batista.

[Fökai 0]

And he's already been WWE champion and beat Cena before. The World Heavyweight title is something he did not hold while he was here last, and Batista someone he hasn't beat. It'd make more sense for him to choose Batista.

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It was more of why Cena wouldn't be offended by Brock choosing Batista. Unless Brock chooses Cena, you don't want to remind the fans of Brock's victory at Backlash. But, if Brock says something like "Cena's a great champion and all" blah blah blah - "but it's Batista that I want" in the least offensive way possible, Rudo's scenario works great.

[BorneAgain 0]

At least we can all agree on that the creative team will likely be too incompetent to come up with something good for him anyway.

[zyn081 0]

I'd say that Lesnar should definitely come back as a heel ... personally, I'd have JBL hint that he has a surprise for Batista, leading up to their next PPV match.  Each week rumors would run rampant about what JBL had up his sleeve, and then have Lesnar return at the PPV and cost Batista the title.

 

Yeah, I know people will piss on the idea because it give JBL another title run and bla-bla-bla ... but he's one of the few guys that gets consistent heel heat, and is a sure way to ensure that Lesnar comes back as a heel.  Plus, the next few months could feature feuds between Batista-Lesnar and Benoit-JBL (for the title).

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Yes, yes, yes, and yes.

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Hell, makes JBL champ again.

 

I'd have 2 sets of videos setting up Lesnar.  I'd have one run 5 weeks before Survivor Series.  It would be a countdown - the screen goes black, you get "In 5 Weeks... He returns" in lettering and audio clips of announcers calling his matches ("Oh my GOD!" "That's inhuman" "This man is a monster" "Oh that's gotta hurt" "Somebody call 9-11", etc).  Survivor Series comes up, you do the full countdown "5...4...3...2...1" and then you have it go crazy and go back up... Fast paced, hectic, choatic shots of Lesnar and his signature moves.  Get a heartbeat in there, the sounds of a monitor (beep, beep, beep), wild animal sounds, intense music, etc. all mixed together.  During this you get random numbers "1..3...2...4...3...4...1..." shifting through it.  Then It goes up from 1..2...3...4 and slows down to 5...with an F appearing beside it.  It stops for a moment ...calm...  Then you have shots of Lesnars F-5, moving quicker and quicker... and then.... "Welcome Back" a shot of Lesnar sitting down at a table with Vince signing a WWE contract.  This final one ("Week 0") would be at the PPV, as not to identify Brock as a Raw or Smackdown wrestler.

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3 words for ya: THAT . . . SOUNDS . . . FANTASTIC

 

On another note, am I the only 1 here who would prefer Eddie-Benoit for the WHC at WMXXII in the ME? That means we can still have Batista-Lesnar.

 

I would have it that Eddie beat Batista at SurSer with Lesnars help, but Lesnar doesnt touch Batista. Youve got the automatic rematch and Lesnar has a huge police escort all the time, curteousy of HHH over on RAW. Then you can have Eddie defend, winning, via some dastardly heel tactics (I dont care what, hold Batista's mum hostage). You then get Benoit confronting Eddie saying what are you doing Eddie. Benoit wants to teach some sense into him. Eddies all like you must be loco holmes if you think I dont know that getting in the ring with you is the worst thing I can do. Benoit enters the rumble, but Eddie manipulates the draw so thats hes number one. You can show clips of Benoit saying look at WMXX, we were on top of the world, look at us now, more specificcally, look at what youve become. In same said Rumble, Brock can eliminate himself from it when he hears Tistas music. Have him find a way to always avoid Batista, until WM...

[Guest Nater]

The two monster match at WM worked so well with Brock last time, that we know ... this being the WWE ... they will try it again.

 

History is just bound to repeat itself, minus a triple powerbomb to Jeff.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

They need to figure out who's going to be playing the heel, and fast.

 

If Batista's going to be the heel, then he needs to start taking on faces RIGHT NOW, first as the "champion who takes on all comers" but eventually turn heel. Brock should go to Smackdown and will have to DESTROY JBL and go clean over Taker, preferably kicking out of a Tombstone, to look a threat to Dave.

 

If Lesnar is playing the heel, do the "this guy doesn't have a contract!" spiel we've talked about before. Brock Lesnar: Unofficial WWE Wrestler. Have him attack Cena at some point in an "unsanctioned" fight and put Cena out for a week, escaping when the rest of the Raw locker room comes out to rush him at once. Then the story line is "Hey Dave, I can't get any competition on this show, why don't we go one on one? And why don't you put that hunk of gold on the line, too?"

 

Lesnar as the "unofficial" chapmion who refuses to give the belt back (perhaps do the Ric Flair routine of distorting the belt?) would rock for a couple months.

[cameron chaos 0]

The second set of videos would happen after Survivor Series.  Now, I don't know if I would have it in regular packaged format, or if I would have someone -say Josh Mathews- following Brock "on the road" doing various training. 

 

"I'm Josh Mathews and I have been given permission to follow Brock around the country as he gets ready for his return of the WWE.  Today we're in Minnesoda as Brock gets back to his roots, training with his former amatuer wrestling team".  Then you get clips of Brock training, and interviews with the coaches, wrestlers, etc.  At the end of the video, I'd have Sheldon Benjamin standing there watching, with another wrestler coming up and asking "Hey, didn't you used to wrestle with Brock?".  At the end of each video each week, a different wrestler would be watching - Benoit, Angle, Big Show, Taker, HHH, John Cena, and Batista.  Each would be interested, each would have a different reaction.

 

Now, personally, I'd include Brock training with some MMA guys - When he's in Oregon, he trains with Team Quest.  When he's in California, he trains with AKA and Team Punishment.  When he's in Iowa, he trains with MFS.  It would help show the legitimacy of Lesnar, training in different fighting styles, and having these "real" fighters talk about how impressed they are with him.  I think it would be a new way to go, but I am also a mark for that stuff so...

 

With a few weeks away, after countless attempts, Mathews gets to talk to Brock. 

 

"What are you training for... which brand are you going to be on.... who will be your first opponent?"

 

Brock: "The WWE"

 

Mathews: "What?"

 

Brock: "You asked me who my first opponent was... I answered it."

 

Mathews: "I don't get it... you're going to take-on the entire company?"

 

Brock: "That's right... in 5 weeks.. at the Royal Rumble - the first official date of my new contract."

 

Mathews: "Well, do you have anything to say to those other 29 other men you'll be facing"

 

Brock: "Get Ready.  I'm Back."

 

The RR is the perfect place to bring back Brock - you get him interacting with both sides of the roster, it'll draw a big number, and it still doesn't specify where he's going - so that when he wins, when he chooses to face Batista, there will be some momentum going for it.

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Team Punishment doesn't exist anymore. I think AKA and MFS would sooner suck gun barrels than sully their legit reps by associating with WWE. it is a sound idea, but I doubt either camp would want to appear on WWE TV. Team Quest are the most likely to say yes but given Randy's and Matt's disdain for pro wrestling compared to actual greco or freestyle wrestling and their own reps, I doubt they'd be willing to work with Brock either.

 

I actually think your video package idea sounds a lot like how Tazz was introduced.

[Vyce 0]

The WWE doesn't need to associate themselves or Brock in any way with MMA in order to make Brock seem like a legitimate threat. It's just fucking unnecessary.

 

The only MMA nonsense I could perhaps stomach would be if the WWE airs a segment that opens with Chris Leben standing in the Octagon looking bewildered, and all of a sudden Brock appears and proceeds to beat him into a bloody coma. Then Brock looks at the camera and says, "Well, enough of THIS bullshit." And then walks out. No explanation would be given. Or needed.

[zyn081 0]

They need to figure out who's going to be playing the heel, and fast.

 

If Batista's going to be the heel, then he needs to start taking on faces RIGHT NOW, first as the "champion who takes on all comers" but eventually turn heel. Brock should go to Smackdown and will have to DESTROY JBL and go clean over Taker, preferably kicking out of a Tombstone, to look a threat to Dave.

 

If Lesnar is playing the heel, do the "this guy doesn't have a contract!" spiel we've talked about before. Brock Lesnar: Unofficial WWE Wrestler. Have him attack Cena at some point in an "unsanctioned" fight and put Cena out for a week, escaping when the rest of the Raw locker room comes out to rush him at once. Then the story line is "Hey Dave, I can't get any competition on this show, why don't we go one on one? And why don't you put that hunk of gold on the line, too?"

 

Lesnar as the "unofficial" chapmion who refuses to give the belt back (perhaps do the Ric Flair routine of distorting the belt?) would rock for a couple months.

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Somebody in the chase/defend said it best: thank god Batista isnt playing the goofy heel monster a la TBS. Batista is best suited as a face.

 

Have Lesnar demand to carry the old WWE strap around.

 

The only MMA nonsense I could perhaps stomach would be if the WWE airs a segment that opens with Chris Leben standing in the Octagon looking bewildered, and all of a sudden Brock appears and proceeds to beat him into a bloody coma.  Then Brock looks at the camera and says, "Well, enough of THIS bullshit."  And then walks out.  No explanation would be given.  Or needed.

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Yeah, sure, theyd agree to that.

[Vyce 0]

A man can dream.