Cover for Infinite Crisis #1

[SuperJerk 0]

Again...Bingo.

 

edit: And there was a giant spider in "Birthright"?  Was Jon Peters attached to this project?

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I'm pretty sure Peters blew his "giant spider" load with Wild Wild West.

[Sass 0]

It was either Jon Peters or Tim Burton who wanted to give Superman a gay robot drone in the "Death & Return of Superman" flick idea that was being tossed around several years ago at Warner Brothers. It'd follow the old Superman: The Animated Series storyline of Brainiac hitting Earth after letting Krypton explode and seeking out Superman so he could control the last son of Krypton. Doomsday is sent to Earth by Brainiac and him and Supes fight to the death. All of a sudden, Superman is resurrected from the dead by sun light. He finds Brainiac in his Skullhead Spaceship and they fight, Superman wins, and mind wipes Lois again.

 

Whoops, that wasn't supposed to happen!

 

Or was it...

[SuperJerk 0]

Infinite Crisis finally came out yesterday.

 

 

Discuss.

[ZGangsta 0]

Haven't bought it yet, going out to do so now.

[JasonX 0]

Haven't bought it yet, going out to do so now.

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Bland first issue, mainly due to the fact that Geoff wastes 1/3rd of the issue on a lame Alan Moore homage. IDC #1 had a shitload more to occur in it's first issue, making me uber disappointed given the four dollar price tag the book had. Only the wholesale slaughter of the Freedom Fighters and the last page suprise redeemed the issue.

 

That said, they REALLY REALLY should have deep-sixed the last issues of Villains United and Day of Vengence and merged them with Infinite Crisis #1. The Spectre/Captain Marvel battle would have been better than the rehash of "For The Man Who Has Everything" fight and VU #6's holy shit moment (the return of the

Pre-Crisis Lex Luthor

as the true head of the SSOSV) would have boosted the main elements of the plot for the issue.

 

Of course, the real irony this week is that IC #1 came out the same week as House of M #7, which is the first decent issue of HOM and of Bendis's entire abortion of a run on the Avengers. Of course it's also the first issue where Bendis treats Wanda as a living thing and gives the character actual time on page to talk and emote her feelings towards the shit plot Bendis has forced onto the character, which shows you how fucked up things are creatively at Marvel.

[JasonX 0]

It was either Jon Peters or Tim Burton who wanted to give Superman a gay robot drone in the "Death & Return of Superman" flick idea that was being tossed around several years ago at Warner Brothers.  It'd follow the old Superman: The Animated Series storyline of Brainiac hitting Earth after letting Krypton explode and seeking out Superman so he could control the last son of Krypton.  Doomsday is sent to Earth by Brainiac and him and Supes fight to the death.  All of a sudden, Superman is resurrected from the dead by sun light.  He finds Brainiac in his Skullhead Spaceship and they fight, Superman wins, and mind wipes Lois again.

 

Whoops, that wasn't supposed to happen!

 

Or was it...

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It was John Peters; he demanded a gay version of JLA member L-Ron as Brainiac's sidekick and the inclusion of Giant Robot Spiders and Polar Bears in the Kevin Smith script.

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Issue #1 was beyond AWESOME

 

Recap. Major Points

 

We see 4 people watching the destruction of the DCU. Issue touches on all four minis.

 

-Brother Eye 1 orders "Truth and Justice" protocol right before Nightwing is about to get attacked by OMACs. Donna Troy takes Starfire and Supergirl on her mission to space.

 

The Society dismantle the Freedom fighters killing Black Condor, Phantom Lady, Human Bomb and Uncle Sam. The Ray is captured because Lex Luthor needs him. Doctor Polaris is the only loss the Society suffers.

 

-Ratcatcher is killed by an OMAC

 

-Someone is messing with the cosmos as the Guardians discover that Oa is not at the center of the universe as it should be.

 

-Spectre unleashes hell on Gotham by destroying the Rock of Eternity which was above the city.

 

- The Trinity(Bats, Supes, WW) are looking over the destroyed Watchtower and are attacked by Mongul. Superman burns him up with his heat vision knocking him out, WW then attempts to kill Mongul but Superman stops her. The Trinity then proceed to tear each other up verbally with Batman delivering one of the most memorable lines ever. He questions Superman's leadership by saying

 

"The last time you really inspired someone...was when you were dead."

 

That is the death blow and all three go their separate ways.

 

Finally the four people watching saw what happened with the Trinity and decide that they can't just sit there and not get involved. Leading to the final page

 

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/InfiniteCri...an/IC01Last.jpg

 

HUGE ISSUE #1 SPOILERS: The Real Jim Lee Cover to issue #2.

 

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/InfiniteCrisis/INCRCv2.jpg

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What I'll say about the

return of the Golden Age Superman

is that I'm glad they acknowledge there even is a

Golden Age Superman

because I'm tired of the self-serving way the JSA constantly gets props for

being the first super-heroes within the DC Universe

.

 

 

Also, fuck Zero Hour.

[JasonX 0]

What I'll say about the

return of the Golden Age Superman

is that I'm glad they acknowledge there even is a

Golden Age Superman

because I'm tired of the self-serving way the JSA constantly gets props for

being the first super-heroes within the DC Universe

. 

 

 

Also, fuck Zero Hour.

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Zero Hour has it's moments. And Hal Jordan was wicked cool as the big bad, you got to admit it....

[Special K 0]

That Jim Lee cover is awesome now

Did the golden-armored Luthor ever appear after CoIE?

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Newest Solicitation

 

INFINITE CRISIS #4

Written by Geoff Johns

Art by Phil Jimenez & Andy Lanning, George Pérez & Jerry Ordway

Covers by Jim Lee & Sandra Hope and George Pérez

The Crisis continues to explode across the DCU as a great power is unleashed. But whose side is it on? Witness a shocking confrontation between Batman and Nightwing, a vicious battle that threatens to tear the heroes of the DCU further apart, and a startling change to the recently deceased. Plus, guest appearances by more characters than we can list! Retailers please note: This issue will ship with covers by Lee & Hope (approximately 50%) and Pérez (approximately 50%).

On sale January 11 • 4 of 7 • 40 pg, FC, $3.99 US

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I was kind of surprised by the appearce of the

silver age Superboy

, but then again, I guess the one John Byrne killed off in the 80s (not long after the Superman relaunch) wasn't the same one that got to go off into the void at the end of Crisis.

[Renegade 0]

Do we really need spoiler tags for this?

 

Pros:

 

The demise of the

Freedom Force was brutally chilling and symbolic.

 

Bats was pretty spot on with his comments. I didn't sense any Bat dickery in what he said. As heroes there are always other ways.

 

The appearance Earth-2 Supes wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be.

 

Cons:

 

Where the fuck did Mongul come from? And just which Mongul was that?

 

Batman can breathe in space?

 

WW seemed to be gung-ho about slicing Mongul.

 

Either way it was a good follow up from the minis.

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Wow, I thought that issue was flat-out awesome. "The last time you really inspired someone...was when you were dead." Has got to be one of the greatest comic book lines ever. The book really delivered that epic feel in my opinion and it seems like this is going to be the 'real deal' in terms of a universe-shattering event.

Here's some of my thoughts:

(And yeah, do we need spoiler tags at this point?)

 

-The Freedom Force fight was fabulous.

 

-I love the huge epic splash pages from all the Raan/Thangar War stuff.

 

-Yeah, the Mongul stuff didn't really interest me, but I didn't think it was a 'waste of 1/3rd of the issue on a lame Alan Moore homage.' The confrontation between Bats, Supes, and WW afterwards was great.

 

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I'm stoked to see the group that went away (to heaven or something?) at the end of COIE back. They'd better not give Old-Lois powers or anything though. And I love how they've been building to Superman trying to return for a few years. Such as the end of 'Kingdom' (“For all he’d done, he deserved Heaven…not prison. But now, at long last, he knows this isn’t the jail he once believed it to be. Now he knows that there’s a DOOR. There’s a door, even if he’s not going to use it. Not TODAY, anyway.”), and I guess Teen Titans/Legion #1 (“some other force out there…something that’s POUNDING against reality.”) was referring to him.

 

-Batman can't breath in space Renegade, the atmospheric shield is still up, barely.

 

-Will Jason Todd, Supergirl, and the Hal-Jordan return turn out to have been results of the reality-altering event.

 

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One sort of contiuity question I have. At the end of JLA 119 it appears that John is attacked by Superman. But in IC 1, it appears that he hasn't 'broken out of his universe' yet. What do think's up with that?

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George Perez Cover to issue #4

 

[Vampiro69 0]

All I have to say about the issue is DAMN! Bats line is clearly the best line I have read all year!

[Renegade 0]

I am wondering where the hell the Joker is at. It would be neat have Emperor Joker back to terrorise the DCU in the midst of this clusterfuck.

 

Oh yeah and Lobo in the Rann/Thanagar part wouldn't be bad either. A good opportunity to get rid of the character.

[Vampiro69 0]

Never liked Lobo, so his offing would be fine with me.

[Guest Prodigy]

I think in an interview, Dan Didio said neither Joker nor Darkseid would be in IC.

[SuperJerk 0]

Infinite Crisis #1 is a worthy sequel to COIE. While I read it, I felt like I was a kid again, reading COIE for the first time.

[starvenger 0]

Do we really need spoiler tags for this?

 

Bats was pretty spot on with his comments. I didn't sense any Bat dickery in what he said.

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The only dickery you'll see from Batman can be found here.

 

But you're right - he's not saying it to be a dick or anything - he's basically making a point and trying to rile up Superman into becoming the leader that he can be.

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Just found this, and thought some people here might get a chuckle out of it.

[SuperJerk 0]

*dies*

 

(And I love the way Batman sounded like a cross between Kevin Conroy and Adam West.)

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George Perez Cover to issue #2

 

[pochorenella 0]

George Perez brings the awesome, as always.

[caboose 0]

Perez has been burying Lee when it comes to the covers.

[Vampiro69 0]

I already made the decision to buy the Perez covers for this, since Perez is a link to the original Crisis. Plus I am somewhat tired of Lee's artwork. Wanted a chance of pace for my display and Perez gives it a touch of class.

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Its nice to see Powergirls got such a big role in this, i've liked the character since I saw her, and the more I read the more I like her. Her JSA classified issues were great

[JasonX 0]

George Perez Cover to issue #2

 

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Some things that was brought up on another forum I visit, about the cover:

 

The three ships carrying baby Superman from Earth 1, 2, and Post Crisis

 

The scenes of WW, Superman, Batman from the early 90s that led to them being replaced (or in the case of WW, just a shot of her early 90s replacement Artemis).

 

Replacement characters for the Big Guns (Nightwing, Superboy, Artemis, Donna Troy) plus Guy Gardner (replacement for Hal Jordan).

 

The one thing that makes me wonder is why Wildfire was on the cover; DC has stated that IC won't have any connection to the Legion of the Super-Heroes and the new Legion series. Plus Mark Waid has stated that he hates Wildfire and would never use him in a Legion comic that he's involved with, since Wildfire was the first college age hero to join the Legion and represents the Legion going from teenage clique to college age super-heroes soap opera. Martian Manhunter, Sue Dibney, Ralph, Atom, Dr Light, Donna Troy, the Crisis characters, references to early Earth 2 stories, and even Jason Todd (who's resurrection/transformation into a murderous vigilante is supposed to be finally be resolved in Batman Annual #25, which is supposed to be the final Batman book published before the One Year Gap happens) I can understand. But while I would love to see the Pre-94 reboot Wildfire return, I can't seem to figure out how he'd fit into the current puzzle regarding the plot for Infinite Crisis.

[ZGangsta 0]

Some things that was brought up on another forum I visit, about the cover:

 

The three ships carrying baby Superman from Earth 1, 2, and Post Crisis

 

The scenes of WW, Superman, Batman from the early 90s that led to them being replaced (or in the case of WW, just a shot of her early 90s replacement Artemis).

 

Replacement characters for the Big Guns (Nightwing, Superboy, Artemis, Donna Troy) plus Guy Gardner (replacement for Hal Jordan).

Wow, that's some cool stuff, the three Superman spaceships is very interesting. I wonder if all the stuff shown in this cover is supposed to have anything to do with the new Crisis? It also looks like it could be Power Girl seeing all the biggest happenings in the history of the DCU. I mean you've got:

-Superman's Death

-Batman's back being broken

-Parralax

-Superman, Superboy, and Lois leaving the universe.

-The JLA meeting the JSA

-Barry Allen's death

-Barry Allen meeting Jay Garrick (the first Earth1/Earth2 crossover)

-WW killing Max Lord

 

So it's got a bunch of COIE related stuff (like the Monitor and Anti-Monitor), but a bunch of other non-crisis related stuff (like Batman finding Jason's body and Superman dying), so I wonder?