Campaign 2008

[SuperJerk 0]

If youre going to attempt to be a pundit, Jerk, you need to look alot deeper than the surface. But I dont expect a whole lot from the guy that believes Warren fucking Harding started the Great Depression AND World War Two with his bare hands.

Why do you have to lie because you don't like my conclusion about something completely unrelated?

Can anyone find a quote of this?

 

Except, you know, his economic policies helped create the economic environment that allowed the Great Depression to occur, and his isolationism and trade policies encouraged the conditions that would help lead to World War II. Creating the Dept. of Veterans Affairs hardly makes up for that.

"encouraged the conditions that would help lead to" ≠ "started...with his bare hands"

 

Only an idiot would not be able to see the difference.

 

Right now, my prognosis for top candidates are:

 

Republican: Mitt Romney (needs to avoid his father's 'brainwashing' moment)

 

You need to do a lot more research on Romney if you think that's the only thing that could hold him back.

[Dr. Zaius 0]

Right now, my prognosis for top candidates are:

 

Republican: Mitt Romney (needs to avoid his father's 'brainwashing' moment)

 

You need to do a lot more research on Romney if you think that's the only thing that could hold him back.

 

You mean because he's pro-choice Mormon 1-term governor of a liberal northeastern state?

[snuffbox 0]

I didn't say that was 'the only' thing holding him back. He is the real frontrunner by the process of elimination probably removing Rudy/Mccain from the primaries. I only included that slogan as a tidbit on Huckabee, does that mean it is "the only" thing he has going for him? Again, you need to look beyond the surface and which candidates are most popular, or which ones give you an erection like Vanilla Bayh. I only gave the shortest & simplest of synopsis...you immediately looked into like it was some kind of serious dissertation. Try again. Or better yet, dont.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

[SuperJerk 0]

I didn't say that was 'the only' thing holding him back. He is the real frontrunner by the process of elimination probably removing Rudy/Mccain from the primaries. I only included that slogan as a tidbit on Huckabee, does that mean it is "the only" thing he has going for him? Again, you need to look beyond the surface and which candidates are most popular, or which ones give you an erection like Vanilla Bayh. I only gave the shortest & simplest of synopsis...you immediately looked into like it was some kind of serious dissertation. Try again. Or better yet, dont.

Don't tell me to "look beyond the surface" while simulaneously offering your sorry excuse for analysis. You're trying to have it both ways.

 

If you remove McCain and Guiliani, Huckabee's the frontrunner, not Romney. Huckabee's positions fall in line with what Republican primary voters want to hear, plus he has a great human interest story. He's also a genuinely nice guy, whereas Romney comes off like some slick northeasterner who also happens to support (in their minds) the legalized murder of unborn babies. Who do you really think John C. Biblethumper's going to pull the lever for?

 

You really have no dea why I'm backing Bayh, do you? Use your brain for a second here...you're the one that's getting all emotionally worked up over people with no chance of carrying a single red state, not me. Bayh has the best chance of getting 270 electoral votes worth of states in the blue. Moderate ex-governor of a red state wth foriegn policy experience who talks tough on national defense > whatever liberal masturbation fantasy the peaceniks and the tree-huggers decide is flavor of the month. Sure, Obama's a swell guy and gives a rousing speech, but that's not going to cut it when you're electing the commander-in-chief in the post 9/11 world. After 8 years of Bush, the party's base will be willing to overlook some of Bayh's more conservative positions and accept him because he's more acceptable to them than ANYONE the GOP has to offer.

 

And if a guy has four or five HUGE things working against him, and you only mention something completely irrelevant as a possible spoiler, can you blame me for thinking you don't know what you are talking about?

[snuffbox 0]

Is John C. Biblethumper any relation to Joe P. Goodolboy?

 

Do you know Mitt strongly opposes abortion & is fast filling the conservative side of the Republican choices, an area that Newt/Tancredo/Brownback/etc will dance on the fringe of success and nothing more? Behind Mitt, as I said are Govs Huckabee & Thompson but they are, thus far, well behind romney in the popularity contest.

 

We haven't elected a Senator in what will have been 48 years by 2008...but when we do, I'm sure it will be a gullible, uncharismatic guy that voted for the Iraq War.

[SuperJerk 0]

Is John C. Biblethumper any relation to Joe P. Goodolboy?

 

Do you know Mitt strongly opposes abortion & is fast filling the conservative side of the Republican choices, an area that Newt/Tancredo/Brownback/etc will dance on the fringe of success and nothing more? Behind Mitt, as I said are Govs Huckabee & Thompson but they are, thus far, well behind romney in the popularity contest.

 

My information was that Romney is pro-choice. If I'm misinformed, then I'll give him better chances than I do now.

 

We haven't elected a Senator in what will have been 48 years by 2008...but when we do, I'm sure it will be a gullible, uncharismatic guy that voted for the Iraq War.

Did you know that of the five governors that have been party nominees in the last 50 years, only one has failed to become president?

 

Since Evan Bayh was a 2-term governor, I'd say his chances are better than Barrack Obama's, John Edwards's, or Hillary Clinton's at being elected.

[gWIL 0]

You really have no dea why I'm backing Bayh, do you? Use your brain for a second here...you're the one that's getting all emotionally worked up over people with no chance of carrying a single red state, not me. Bayh has the best chance of getting 270 electoral votes worth of states in the blue. Moderate ex-governor of a red state wth foriegn policy experience who talks tough on national defense > whatever liberal masturbation fantasy the peaceniks and the tree-huggers decide is flavor of the month. Sure, Obama's a swell guy and gives a rousing speech, but that's not going to cut it when you're electing the commander-in-chief in the post 9/11 world. After 8 years of Bush, the party's base will be willing to overlook some of Bayh's more conservative positions and accept him because he's more acceptable to them than ANYONE the GOP has to offer.

 

And if a guy has four or five HUGE things working against him, and you only mention something completely irrelevant as a possible spoiler, can you blame me for thinking you don't know what you are talking about?

 

SuperJerk, this should just be our standard response to whatever stupid thing snuffbox says about Evan Bayh. It's not even worth the effort anymore.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

whatever liberal masturbation fantasy the peaceniks and the tree-huggers decide is flavor of the month. Sure, Obama's a swell guy and gives a rousing speech, but that's not going to cut it when you're electing the commander-in-chief in the post 9/11 world.

 

If Evan Bayh wins a single primary, I will change my username to Peacenik J. Treehugger.

 

Also, Romney was pro-choice, but flip-flopped and is now pro-life.

 

Plus, he wears the magic underwear and thinks Jesus proselytized in America (sorry, Mormons, but the magic underwear are funny!). About 50% of evangelicals have said they won't vote for a Mormon. Plus, I would guess that people probably lie a lot on questions like that that ask about bias.

[gWIL 0]

Prepare to change your name because he will win at least one, if he runs, for sure. Indiana.

[SuperJerk 0]

whatever liberal masturbation fantasy the peaceniks and the tree-huggers decide is flavor of the month. Sure, Obama's a swell guy and gives a rousing speech, but that's not going to cut it when you're electing the commander-in-chief in the post 9/11 world.

 

If Evan Bayh wins a single primary, I will change my username to Peacenik J. Treehugger.

 

You realize its still 2006, right?

[snuffbox 0]

C-SPAN re-aired Evan Bayh & Mitt Romney speeches (question/answer session & crowd mingling included as well) yesterday. One was different than the other.

 

Why does Evan Bayh always squint and keep the same retarded grin on his face? Is he a product of what our Grandmas warned us about when we made silly faces as children?

 

In a post-911 world what we really need is another diet version of GWB. He's been so successful post 911, that a vanilla-fied version of him should do just as well as our commander in chief.

[Guest "Go, Mordecai!"]

Now here's a guy who must have a firm handshake in addition to his Secret Mormon Temple Handshake. He looks like the CEO of "Strategic Business Solutions" or something. Alas, qualified as he may be, he thinks that if you're good on Earth, you get to be God of your own planet, much like some cosmic expansion team. Mormons are fine people in public and great Americans, but he wears a union suit with Masonic symbols under his clothes. That's weird, sorry.

[snuffbox 0]

Odds are pretty good that Mitt will say something really stupid when asked about his Mormonism (is that the right word?) on the trail and that will be his 'brainwashing'/downfall moment.

 

With Rudy destined to be bothered by his transvestite habits among other things, and McCain's apparent inability to lassoo himself away from the idea of an even bigger Iraq War, all three GOP frontrunners could eliminate themselves by New Hampshire.

[Guest "Go, Mordecai!"]

Am I imagining stuff, or was there a sequence of Russ Feingold posts that were deleted?

[snuffbox 0]

They're in the Iraq thread.

 

See 'em while ya can before they get Jerked!

[SuperJerk 0]

C-SPAN re-aired Evan Bayh & Mitt Romney speeches (question/answer session & crowd mingling included as well) yesterday. One was different than the other.

 

Why does Evan Bayh always squint and keep the same retarded grin on his face? Is he a product of what our Grandmas warned us about when we made silly faces as children?

 

In a post-911 world what we really need is another diet version of GWB. He's been so successful post 911, that a vanilla-fied version of him should do just as well as our commander in chief.

Okay...

 

 

Odds are pretty good that Mitt will say something really stupid when asked about his Mormonism (is that the right word?) on the trail and that will be his 'brainwashing'/downfall moment.

 

With Rudy destined to be bothered by his transvestite habits among other things, and McCain's apparent inability to lassoo himself away from the idea of an even bigger Iraq War, all three GOP frontrunners could eliminate themselves by New Hampshire.

 

That's why Huckabee's an important person to keep an eye on. Plus, as a former Ark. governor, he can spend his whole campaign taking pot-shots at the Clintons and sound completely credible.

[snuffbox 0]

Thus my repeated mentions of the potential for (I heart) Huckabee and Tommy Thompson.

[SuperJerk 0]

WELL THEN I GUESS I AGREE WITH YOU ON SOMETHING.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Here are a bunch of fun, but ultimately meaningless, head to head polls from Rassmussen.

 

11/10-11

 

McCain ® 49

Vilsack (D) 32

 

Romney ® 35

Vilsack (D) 39

 

 

11/26-27

 

McCain ® 48

Clinton (D) 44

 

Giuliani ® 48

Clinton (D) 43

 

 

11/28-29

 

Gingrich ® 41

Clinton (D) 50

 

Gingrich ® 38

Obama (D) 48

 

 

11/30-12/1

 

McCain ® 53

Kerry (D) 36

 

Giuliani ® 51

Kerry (D) 37

 

 

12/2-3

 

Gingrich ® 38

Kerry (D) 47

 

Gingrich ® 36

Gore (D) 52

 

 

12/6:

 

Romney ® 40

Clinton (D) 48

 

Romney ® 39

Gore (D) 48

 

 

12/10-11

 

Giuliani ® 51

Bayh (D) 34

 

McCain ® 52

Bayh (D) 32

[NoCalMike 0]

One thing that is going to come majorly into play is how the corporate media covers every candidate. They did a really piss poor job when George Bush was running in 2000 to explain that the guy had been a failure in almost every venture he had tried up to that point, bankrupting several businesses and having his daddy bail him out everytime. That was overlooked and almost completely ignored, where as with Al Gore it seemed to be newsworthy for the media to constantly harp on him looking "like a statue" when he speaks. As if the two things are some how comparable and deserve equal coverage.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Gore basically coasted by on his father's name for the early part of his career too. And I say that as someone who likes Gore.

[snuffbox 0]

The secular progressive liberal media all seem to be agreeing that Barack Obama is a 'total mystery man' on the issues. Maybe Geraldo can figure the nice black man out.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

I think Obama is pretty much center-left.

[SuperJerk 0]

Any poll with Romney, Bayh, or Vilsack are meaningless since only political junkies even know who they are.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Yeah, I think the Vilsack vs. Romney poll is pretty much generic D vs. generic R, considering how unknown the 2 probably are nationally.

 

I also love how everyone thrashes Gingrich, even the still probably fairly unknown Obama & John Kerry.

 

I saw a recent poll on a conservative blog that had Gingrich leading & McCain dead last. I wonder if that's really how the conservative grassroots/base is leaning.

[SuperJerk 0]

The only way Newt Gingrich could be in the lead is if the polling sample was composed entirely of divorce lawyers.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

[John Edwards]who is pondering a 2OO8 run, tops Arizona Republican John McCain by two points: 43 percent to 41 percent.

 

McCain beats Clinton by four points: 47-43.

 

McCain beats Obama by five points: 43-38.

 

This is according to a recent NBC Wall Street Journal poll.

 

"Generic Democrat" beats "Generic Republican" by 18 points right now.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

I honestly can't think of a Republican candidate that I would give a shit about if McCain wasn't nominated. At this rate, Obama would have a better chance of getting a top spot if he were Hilary's running mate since she's been in the game longer therefore being more popular.

[SuperJerk 0]

What do people here think of Bill Richardson?