Campaign 2008

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The stupidity (in Kentucky, not Your Moms) continues. I received this email forward from a fellow teacher today.

Last year someone used our building email to spread the old "Oliver North/Al Gore/Osama bin Laden" myth. I did an all-building reply with a hyperlink to the Snopes page that debunked it, and the guy later apologized.

 

I don't know that myth. Could you link to it here?

http://snopes.com/rumors/north.asp

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What did Obama say/do about the Fox thing?

 

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/arc..._versus_fo.html

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As mentioned:

Kerry Declines White House Rerun

2004 Democratic Nominee Opts Out of Fierce 2008 Race

By ED O'KEEFE and DAVID CHALIAN

Jan. 24, 2007 — - Sen. John F. Kerry, the Democratic nominee for president in 2004, has bowed out of the 2008 contest.

 

In a speech on the Senate floor, the Senator appeared to tear up when announcing, "Two years ago, I sought the presidency to lead us on a different course&we came close, Mr. President, certainly close enough to be tempted to try again."

 

"But," Kerry continued moments later, "I've concluded that this isn't the time for me to mount a presidential campaign."

 

Shortly after Kerry's statement, Senator Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., who pledged to support his state's junior senator if he decided to run again, immediately to the Senate floor to say, "I know how difficult a decision this is for Senator Kerry and I say to the people of the country how proud we are of John Kerry."

 

Following Kennedy, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., gushed, "I love you John Kerry and I'm sorry things didn't work out for our country."

 

Kerry leaves a crowded field that already includes several senators, including Democrats Barack Obama of Illinois and Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York.

 

The three-term senator will instead run for re-election in 2008, seeking a fourth term in Congress.

 

One former Kerry adviser tells ABC News Deputy Political Director David Chalian that Kerry is, in part, a "victim of Barack Obama," and a victim of a Democratic Party tradition of having very little love for those who have lost a previous presidential race.

 

After losing the critical battleground state of Ohio by 118,601 votes, and thus the election, in 2004, Kerry spent much of the last two years positioning himself as a potential alternative to front-runner Clinton.

 

On Oct. 30, 2006, however, Kerry undid much of the work he had done with party activists, donors and the media by delivering what he later called a "botched joke" at a campaign event in California.

 

In front of a group of college students, Kerry said: "You know education. If you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart. You can do well. And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

 

Reaction was swift and sure, but Kerry's apology was not. Leaving the 2006 midterm campaign trail, an initially defiant Kerry turned contrite, saying, "I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform, and I personally apologize to any service member, family member or American who was offended."

 

He later added, "As a combat veteran, I want to make it clear to anyone in uniform and to their loved ones: My poorly stated joke at a rally was not about, and [was]never intended to refer to, any troop."

 

After the joke, a former Kerry adviser says that Kerry strategists came up with a "60 days in the Senate" plan as an attempt to use his position in the Senate as a way to rehabilitate his image.

 

Kerry planned to use the first two months of the year to continue to mark his turf on Iraq in the Senate and to talk to donors.

 

The "choice for donors got a lot more real when they started getting daily phone calls from Sen. Clinton and Sen. Obama," said this Democratic operative.

 

The senator was also having a hard time getting his voice heard on Iraq with Carl Levin and presidential hopeful Joe Biden holding hearings on the topic, and Clinton and Obama also on Iraq-related committees.

 

In the end, however, Kerry's withdrawal from the 2008 race may be about more than a botched joke. The road would have been long, but not impossible.

 

In the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll released Sunday, Kerry had 8 percent support among leaned Democrats, significantly trailing Clinton with 41 percent support.

 

He also lagged behind political wunderkind Obama; his own vice presidential candidate and former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina; and former vice president Al Gore, by 17, 11 and 10 points respectively.

 

In another ABC News/Washington Post poll released last month, Kerry supporters' second choice disproportionately favored Clinton.

 

According to those close to Kerry, the senator intends to focus his time and energy in the Senate on ending the war in Iraq.

 

Kerry, who won three Purple Hearts during two tours of duty in Vietnam, has been an increasingly vocal critic of the war since his election defeat in 2004, only the second Election Day loss of a long and ongoing political career.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2819800&page=1

 

 

 

 

One more time...

 

Why the long face, John?

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In another ABC News/Washington Post poll released last month, Kerry supporters' second choice disproportionately favored Clinton.

 

That should come as no surprise.

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In another ABC News/Washington Post poll released last month, Kerry supporters' second choice disproportionately favored Clinton.

 

That should come as no surprise.

Why?

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They both voted for the war before they voted against it.

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They both voted for the war before they voted against it.

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This is getting sad. People care more about how much Pelosi blinks than what should really be a scandal. Over at the Pit, they blamed Hillary and quickly dismissed it.

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What are the Pittsters saying about Obama?

 

I can imagine something like this...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hv8F1IOxa0

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No shit?

 

I dont think it should come as any surprise that the Democratic establishment of toadies would support both Kerry & Clinton. Both are the most pliable, wishy-washy types of politician & that is historically where the Dems have always made their biggest mistakes. And The Pit people would believe Obama fucks dogs if Roger Ailes said so.

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(And a smoker.)

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Was there a point to all that effort?

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I just saved you the next 2 years of listening to conservatives.

 

Also...

 

As someone who made the mistake of voting for the resolution that gave the president the authority to go to war, I feel the weight of personal responsibility to act to devote time and energy to the national dialogue and an effort to limit this war and bring our participation to a conclusion.

 

Kerry 1, Hillary 0.

Edited January 25, 2007 by SuperJerk

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Since losing the election Kerry has done things like that & finally swing back against the swiftboat bullshit. Had he done both in 2004 he would definitly be President and a lot less Americans would be dead/a lot less money spent. At least he is differentiating himself from Hubert Humphrey who never could bring himself to let go of Johnson's war/nuts.

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And it looks like instead of simply taking the quick/easy/not-quite-so-disgusting approach of simply retaracting the Obama/madrasa story & apologizing, Fox are defending themselves & continuing to repeat the 'story'

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Fortunately, he's not just going to ignore it and hope it goes away.

 

Obama Rips Fox News Over Madrassa Story

 

POSTED: 5:36 pm EST January 24, 2007

UPDATED: 6:13 pm EST January 24, 2007

 

WASHINGTON -- With a staffer declaring, "We will not be swift-boated," Sen. Barack Obama fought back Wednesday against an allegation that he was educated at a radical Islamic school as a child in Indonesia.

 

Interviews by The Associated Press and CNN at the elementary school in Jakarta found that it's a public and secular institution that has been open to students of all faiths since before the White House hopeful attended in the late 1960s.

 

Obama, who was born in Hawaii, moved to Indonesia at age 6 to live with his mother and stepfather, attending schools in the country until age 10, when he returned to Hawaii to live with his maternal grandparents.

 

"The allegations are completely baseless," said Akmad Solichin, the vice principal at SDN Menteng 1, who added, "Yes, most of our students are Muslim, but there are Christians as well. Everyone's welcome here ... it's a public school."

 

A spokesman for Indonesia's Ministry of Religious Affairs said claims that Obama studied at an Islamic school are groundless.

 

"SDN Menteng 1 is a public primary school that is open to people of all faiths," said the spokesman, Sutopo, who goes by only one name. "Moreover, he studied earlier at Fransiskus Assisi, which is clearly a Catholic school."

 

The contention that Obama was educated at a radical Muslim madrassa surfaced on the Web site of the conservative Insight magazine the day after Obama announced he was jumping into the 2008 presidential race. Conservative Internet blogs and the Fox News Channel picked up the story and spread the charges just as his candidacy was getting off the ground.

 

The following is part of a memo released by Obama's office Wednesday:

 

"In the past week, many of you have read a now thoroughly-debunked story by Insight Magazine, owned by the Washington Times, which cites unnamed sources close to a political campaign that claim Senator Obama was enrolled for 'at least four years' in an Indonesian 'Madrassa' The article says the "sources" believe the Madrassa was 'espousing Wahhabism,' a form of radical Islam.

 

"Insight Magazine published these allegations without a single named source, and without doing any independent reporting to confirm or deny the allegations. Fox News quickly parroted the charges, and Fox and Friends host Steve Doocy went so far as to ask, 'Why didn’t anybody ever mention that that man right there was raised — spent the first decade of his life, raised by his Muslim father — as a Muslim and was educated in a Madrassa?'

 

"All of the claims about Senator Obama raised in the Insight Magazine piece were thoroughly debunked by CNN, which, instead of relying on unnamed sources, sent a reporter to Obama’s former school in Jakarta to check the facts.

 

"If Doocy or the staff at Fox and Friends had taken [time]to check their facts, or simply made a call to his office, they would have learned that Senator Obama was not educated in a Madrassa, was not raised as a Muslim, and was not raised by his father -- an atheist Obama met once in his life before he died.

 

Later in the day, Fox News host John Gibson again discussed the Insight Magazine story without any attempt to independently confirm the charges.

 

All of the claims about Senator Obama’s faith and education raised in the Insight Magazine story and repeated on Fox News are false. Senator Obama was raised in a secular household in Indonesia by his stepfather and mother. Obama’s stepfather worked for a U.S. oil company, and sent his stepson to two years of Catholic school, as well as two years of public school. As Obama described it, 'Without the money to go to the international school that most expatriate children attended, I went to local Indonesian schools and ran the streets with the children of farmers, servants, tailors, and clerks.' [The Audacity of Hope, p. 274]

 

"To be clear, Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ in Chicago. Furthermore, the Indonesian school Obama attended in Jakarta is a public school that is not and never has been a Madrassa.

 

"These malicious, irresponsible charges are precisely the kind of politics the American people have grown tired of, and that Senator Obama is trying to change by focusing on bringing people together to solve our common problems."

 

Obama communications director Robert Gibbs said, "We won't take allegations that are patently untrue lying down."

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/politics/1...367/detail.html

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This is pretty funny/pathetic how they refuse to retract the story after they tar/feathered Dan Rather a couple years ago.

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Basically, the course of events:

 

1. Title thread the 'great black hype'

 

2. Piss and moan.

 

3. *Delight!* He's a Muslim. Hussein Osama LOL!

 

4. "I can't believe we're going to have a black Muslim and a jilted ex-first lady as the Democratic candidates!"

 

5. Uh-oh, he's not a Muslim.

 

6. Well, no one's going to vote for him and I didn't care in the first place because he's a liberal so no one cares.

 

7. It's obviously Hillary's fault. She's mean. OMG I can't wait for the Dem primary, it's going to be so nasty. They all hate each other. Democrats are mean, and Republicans are not.

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8. She was askin' fer it.

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I'm surprised they ever got past step 4.

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4. "I can't believe we're going to have a black Muslim and a jilted ex-first lady as the Democratic candidates!"

IIRC this happened over here...

 

And it's not like I'M being remiss in ragging on Clinton.

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And just to get us MORE confident in free and fair election processes in 2008.......

 

http://news.bostonherald.com/politics/view...rticleid=179006

 

Ohio election workers convicted of rigging ’04 presidential recount

By Associated Press

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - Updated: 07:55 PM EST

 

CLEVELAND - Two election workers were convicted Wednesday of rigging a recount of the 2004 presidential election to avoid a more thorough review in Ohio’s most populous county.

 

Jacqueline Maiden, elections coordinator of the Cuyahoga County Elections Board, and ballot manager Kathleen Dreamer each were convicted of a felony count of negligent misconduct of an elections employee. They also were convicted of one misdemeanor count each of failure of elections employees to perform their duty.

 

Prosecutors accused Maiden and Dreamer of secretly reviewing preselected ballots before a public recount on Dec. 16, 2004. They worked behind closed doors for three days to pick ballots they knew would not cause discrepancies when checked by hand, prosecutors said.

 

 

Defense attorney Roger Synenberg has said the workers were following procedures as they understood them.

 

Ohio gave President Bush the electoral votes he needed to defeat Democratic Sen. John Kerry in the close election and hold on to the White House in 2004.

 

Special prosecutor Kevin Baxter did not claim the workers’ actions affected the outcome of the election - Kerry gained 17 votes and Bush lost six in the county’s recount.

 

Maiden and Dreamer, who still work for the elections board, face a possible sentence of six to 18 months for the felony conviction. Sentencing is on Feb. 26.

 

A message left for Elections Board Director Michael Vu was not immediately returned Wednesday. The board released a statement that said its goal is to restore confidence in the county’s election progress and pursue reforms in addition to those made since 2004.

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4. "I can't believe we're going to have a black Muslim and a jilted ex-first lady as the Democratic candidates!"

IIRC this happened over here...

 

And it's not like I'M being remiss in ragging on Clinton.

Yeah, there's enough Hillary-hate to fill both boards, but TSM's CE folder has been Obamagasm Central. I think the WORST thing I've seen said about him here is that he's overrated or too inexperienced.

 

Its no secret this is the left board, and the Pit is the right board. To a degree, people on both boards miss having people to argue with over real differences in opinion, because we have to import quotes and articles from other sites just to have something to rail against. TSM needs conservative voices as badly as the Pit needs liberal ones. There's an obvious solution to this problem, but no one wants to hear it.

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There aren't always two sides to an issue, 'specially lately.

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Interesting potential mud on Mike Huckabee.

 

http://www.arktimes.com/Articles/ArticleVi...80-b5dab8559419

 

Long article.

 

Basically, the gist of it is that there was this guy, Wayne Dumond, that was convicted for the rape of a girl who was a distant cousin of Bill Clinton. He was castrated by some unknown people while awaiting trial.

 

Some right-wing radio personalities claimed that the rape never happened. Huckabee pushed for his parole and got it. Dumond later was convicted of another murder. He died in his jail cell while awaiting a judge's decision on an appeal.

 

Confusing story altogether.

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There aren't always two sides to an issue, 'specially lately.

The Iraq Study Group got attack from both the left and the right with some pretty ridicules arguments, so I beg to differ.

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Mike Huckabee seems like the type that would come out swinging if anyone tried to Willie Horton him. Or at least not completely melt at the accusation.

 

It will definitly be something he will have to adress at some point.

 

Looks like he'll be making an announcement of his candidacy sometime this week.

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My ability to predict political trends hasn't been to good lately, but I think it is safe to say that the Republicans probably won't nominate someone with too close of ties to the current crop of idiots running the party in Washington.

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Chuck Hagel might end up being the only DC Republican with a real chance next year.

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I'm curious to see how the party faithful react to Hagel if he runs.