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Over wrestlers who get little respect

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Would Bill Goldberg fall into this class? I never got the feeling people around here really liked him, but crowds always seemed to love him.

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I personally think Goldberg did what he was meant to do as good as anyone would have. He wasn't the greatest in the ring, but what he did he pretty much did well almost always. Sometimes he looked clumbsy, but he wasn't as horrid as a lot of guys we've had pushed in the last 20 years.

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He did put over Austin in 98 (okay he wasn't YOUNG but he was the IT guy) and put over Brock in a big way at that Hell In A Cell...He'll put over Orton at Summerslam, but it would have made Orton look stonger if it happened at WM...

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I'm curious from folks who go to live shows...does Holly REALLY get loud pops or is it piped in shit manufactured for pre-taped shows?

 

I have an example from a Smackdown taping in December of '04. Holly wrestled the Velocity main event against Luther Reigns. Holly's music hit and the place went ape shit. I can't explain it. It was unreal, the reaction he got. Luther won the match with the Roll of the Dice, but when Holly got his heat back after the pinfall, after the cameras stopped rolling, the crowd ate it with a spoon.

 

You have to give props to Lex Luger though. The IWC hates him like the plague, but from 96-97, he was the man in WCW, right behind Sting. When he made Hogan submit to the rack for the WCW title in the Summer of 97, there wasnt a single person sitting down in that arena. Though you could either attribute this to the overness of Hogan as the monster heel finally losing the title, or the monster face Luger finally dethroning the cowardly champ.

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He did put over Austin in 98 (okay he wasn't YOUNG but he was the IT guy) and put over Brock in a big way at that Hell In A Cell...He'll put over Orton at Summerslam, but it would have made Orton look stonger if it happened at WM...

 

With the UT, its always a case of putting somebody over in the rematch when he should have put them over in the 1st match.

 

You have to give props to Lex Luger though.  The IWC hates him like the plague, but from 96-97, he was the man in WCW, right behind Sting.  When he made Hogan submit to the rack for the WCW title in the Summer of 97, there wasnt a single person sitting down in that arena.  Though you could either attribute this to the overness of Hogan as the monster heel finally losing the title, or the monster face Luger finally dethroning the cowardly champ.

 

The former.

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He did put over Austin in 98 (okay he wasn't YOUNG but he was the IT guy) and put over Brock in a big way at that Hell In A Cell...He'll put over Orton at Summerslam, but it would have made Orton look stonger if it happened at WM...

Whatever good came from Undertaker losing to Brock at HIAC was offset by Undertaker treating him like a bitch in their first match the month before. Lesnar should have been the physically dominant one in that match, and he for sure should never have been casually tossed through the entrance set-up like he was some scrub.

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The Undertaker-Brock thing is a little overblown. I don't think there's anything wrong with the DDQ finish or with UT & Brock looking like they're on the same level. The average fan sees UT as a real badass, afterall. It didn't really hurt Brock in the long run and it was a good set up for a HITC rematch (what else whould they have done?).

 

Then again, the NO MERCY buyrate was pretty disasterous...

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Wrestlers who were over or/and really good faces/heels (at least at some point) who get little respect by smarks (feel free to add to this list):

 

Jim Duggan

Jeff Jarrett

Road Dogg

Dusty Rhodes (to some extent)

Lex Luger (to a pretty good extent)

Hogan (the most obvious one, but this is only to some extent as smarks respect his legacy but tons of them "couldn't stand him")

If were talking over and that smarks hate its gotta be Goldberg. Smarks hated the movesets and no selling, but fans loved it, WCW wise that is....

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Diamond Dallas Page was decent on the mic, capable of having great matches, and had 2 almost legendary feuds (with Randy Savage and Raven).

 

He was also one of the most popular wrestlers in WCW (or WWF) around 1997-98.

 

Yet, people online act like he is the anti-Christ of pro wrestling.

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Diamond Dallas Page was decent on the mic, capable of having great matches, and had 2 almost legendary feuds (with Randy Savage and Raven).

 

He was also one of the most popular wrestlers in WCW (or WWF) around 1997-98.

 

Yet, people online act like he is the anti-Christ of pro wrestling.

I liked DDP, except when he used the whole "Hollywood 'Scum' Hogan" catchphrase. That I did not like.

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