Guest Breakdancingbatista Report post Posted August 9, 2005 Now personally, I'd like the Summerslam clash between Edge and Matt Hardy to be the only match between them before they're split up, ie: Vince sends one of them to Smackdown or something, but I think in order to protect the heat and more importantly, the novelty of a real life rivalry coming to a head within WWE peramaters, Matt/Edge needs to be one titanic collision and then that's it. Seperation will only create more tension between the two characters on screen and could eventually lead to a BIG pay off in the form of an interpromotional grudge match at WrestleMania 22. So assuming that this is the one and only Matt vs Edge match, where does Matt Hardy go next? The way I see it, this whole Matt/Lita/Edge situation going public inadvertantly pushed Matt up to the upper bracket of WWE, and as the news spread further, Matt Hardys star rose higher. The publicity created a superstar off of the roster that was far bigger than when he was on it and now with legitimate crowd interest, huge face heat and a touchable character(almost like a reality tv show contestant), there has never been a better time to push V1. So who would it benefit Matt most to have him feud with? Snitsky would make sense but in my opinion, a feud with Gene would only bring Matt back down to mid card reality when he could ride this dream situation to a permanent upper midcard slot. Same goes for Carlito. Same Goes for Shelton Benjamin. A Feud with Kane could also be made to work, revolving around Kane being pushed off of the card so that Matt could get some revenge, however, despite Matt's more muscular figure; he is still dwarfed by Kane and at this crucial deciding point in Matt's card status, he really doesn't need to be looking up at someone: doesn't really imply good things does it. Now they have to be careful with their next move as far as booking Hardy is concerned; they can't underutilize him and waste the chance to capitilize on his sudden popularity, yet they can't over push him as:- 1) There is already a small 'smart' fan backlash at the way the angle has been handled thus far and Hardy's attempt to work the fans on his 'shoot' message board. 2) Fans may feel like he is being forced down their throats if he is thrown straight in with HHH and co. So who is it going to be? In my opinion the ideal man for the feud is Chris Jericho. Floating around the upper midcard, with a strong heel following and a good worker, Jericho would be just what Matt needs to continue his assent to the upper midcard ranks. Failing Jericho, my other pick would be 'HBK' Shawn Micheals who has simaler qualities to Y2J but is generallyviewed as more of a main eventer as opposed to an upper mid card floater. Anyway, enough from me, I'd like to hear your opinions on the matter. Breakdancingbatista (with comments from G-Money) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2005 He'll be on Heat doing various jobs to the higher ups or beating OVW rookies that's there for a tryout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boon 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2005 Matt after Edge doesn't exist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted August 9, 2005 Matt already easily beat Snitsky, so it wouldn't work to have the two of them feud. I'd also have to say that Jericho would be the ideal choice. They could have some good matches together, but the angle would need to be right. As for Matt vs. Edge, they need to bleed buckets of blood at SummerSlam. I'm talking JBL vs. Eddie blading. Their long hair should literally be soaked in the stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2005 After the Edge feud is over, Hardy should go back to being unemployed. He'd proven to be a less-than-stellar draw the last few years, one hot feud won't set the world on fire for long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2005 Meh. He'd make a better IC champ than Carlito does at the very least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest slmon Report post Posted August 9, 2005 I think that Hardy and Edge both belong in the IC division ... permanently. Once this feud is over, the majority of the fans will go back to generally not caring too much about them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted August 9, 2005 Meh. He'd make a better IC champ than Carlito does at the very least. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agreed. Carlito just shouldn't be holding the IC title at this point in his career. Right now he needs to be in a tag team until he improves. Hardy or someone else should beat him and take the title soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fishyswa Report post Posted August 9, 2005 Kane. All you have to do is have Kane say he fucked Lita too, and while he was acting at first, he'd always been doing the crazy shit because he thought they would end up together. Makes Lita a bigger ho, covers up the logic gap as best as they can and prevents Matt from having to talk much. A fued with Jericho would be horrible, Jericho would bury him on the stick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted August 9, 2005 A feud with Jericho would be horrible, Jericho would bury him on the stick. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Realistically, Jericho would bury a lot of his opponents on the mic if he was given free reign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2005 A fued with Jericho would be horrible, Jericho would bury him on the stick. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, hell, EDGE is burying Matt on the stick right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benoit4hor 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2005 Knowing how they book lately. It will probably be Bichoff. He'll "injure" Edge at Summerslam and Bichoff will get mad that he purposely "injured" a top player on RAW. There can be some nonsense about how if Vince didn't bring him back Eric never would have. Then Eric will send his buddies Carlito & Jericho to get rid of Matt Hardy once and for all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2005 I'm not sure, but I still think that Edge should but his "Money In The Bank" contract on the line for the match to make it just a little bit more interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted August 9, 2005 I'm not sure, but I still think that Edge should but his "Money In The Bank" contract on the line for the match to make it just a little bit more interesting. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He shouldn't really even have the contract since the World title is on Smackdown!. Even Grisham mentioned during the draft lottery that Edge's title shot was for the WORLD title, not the WWE title. That's just another of the many continuity errors in WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fishyswa Report post Posted August 9, 2005 "Realistically, Jericho would bury a lot of his opponents on the mic if he was given free reign." Not even just going off the top of his head, the only real material to use in exchange promo's totally favor's Jericho. If he's coming off a loss and they don't touch on the situation with matt too much it could work, but it would feel so bland and limited. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2005 Maybe Lita will "see the light" and reunite with Hardy storyline wise and they could be the perfect storyline couple while fighting the EVIL~! Trish and whoever is free that month! And both will get an awful reaction because everyone will agree with Trish when she calls Lita a slut and Matt will looked pussy whipped. Yup, sounds like WWE writing to me. Honestly, I have no idea where they could go with him after this, other than in the position he was beforehand. Because honestly, do the fans actually care about Matt Hardy, or just the scandal of this feud? I suppose he could feud with Kane (again), but Kane's a face and lord knows Raw has hardly any faces right now that are staying beyond Summerslam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *KNK* Report post Posted August 10, 2005 The Dudleyz. on Spike TV this fall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted August 10, 2005 No offense to Kane, but I've been enjoying him not being on RAW. They always do something stupid with him when he is there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2005 I say move Matt to Smackdown after this. Have him feud with well...whoever. I really don't know right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted August 10, 2005 Whatever happens with this feud, Edge needs to dump Lita after it's over. Having him DDT her in the ring because she's become a "liability" would be great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zyn081 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2005 People have forgotten that Edge's MitB shot is only valid for the WHC on RAW. People have forgotten about Kane/Hardy/Lita. Usual WWE tactic: dont mention it and hope that it will go away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2005 They'll probably say Bischoff redid the contract, since he's gone full-blown heel lately anyway. It would make sense in the context of Bischoff messing with Cena. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericho2000Mark 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2005 After the Edge feud is over, Hardy should go back to being unemployed. He'd proven to be a less-than-stellar draw the last few years, one hot feud won't set the world on fire for long. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What are talking about? He's never even been put in the positrion to draw, much less had the chance to be a less-than-stellar one. The guy's spent the better part of three years doing jobs on Heat and Velocity. The only way of knowing if he could be a draw is to look at his merch sales or segment ratings, I haven't seen his segment ratings, but his merch sales have always been great, even during his V1 gimmick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted August 11, 2005 He'd proven to be a less-than-stellar draw the last few years, one hot feud won't set the world on fire for long. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Who, in your opinion, is a more-than-stellar draw? Why don't we just dump the whole roster? Anyways, the natural way to go about with this is to have Matt become more than the guy who wants to just beat up Edge, but to become the guy that wants to take everything away from Edge. Obsessively. Including his job. It should be a really dark angle. Matt is a character who has lost it all and been driven to the brink. After watching him in OMEGA, I know he can pull it off. I think that on Monday, when Edge attacked Matt, they should have had some of their agents "lose" their hold on Edge. Those guys can't possibly like Hardy when he's been jumping out of the crowd and screwing up their show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted August 11, 2005 Anyways, the natural way to go about with this is to have Matt become more than the guy who wants to just beat up Edge, but to become the guy that wants to take everything away from Edge. Obsessively. Including his job. It should be a really dark angle. Matt is a character who has lost it all and been driven to the brink. After watching him in OMEGA, I know he can pull it off.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have to say, I like this idea a lot. I'm disappointed that Matt joined WWE again so soon. It makes him part of the establishment now, where before he wasn't just fighting Edge, but the whole company. I think it would've been cool if WWE had put out fake propaganda on RAW and on their website against Hardy (think 1984 style). The marks would've got behind him even more, thinking that they weren't supposed to Anyway, his "re-hiring" should have been held off until after SummerSlam. SummerSlam itself should've featured a "light's out" match behind Hardy and Edge. If they did this right, they could've made people believe that SummerSlam would be Matt's only match back in WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2005 A heel RVD? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest panthermatt7 Report post Posted August 11, 2005 A heel RVD? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nah. RVD's moveset would lead to inevitable face pops, just like when he was an attempted heel during the beginning of the Invasion. Add that to the 'smart' portion of the fanbase that will boo Hardy, and that could be a disaster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zyn081 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2005 A heel RVD? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nah. RVD's moveset would lead to inevitable face pops, just like when he was an attempted heel during the beginning of the Invasion. Add that to the 'smart' portion of the fanbase that will boo Hardy, and that could be a disaster. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Can RVD ever pull of playing a heel? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ransome Report post Posted August 11, 2005 Now personally, I'd like the Summerslam clash between Edge and Matt Hardy to be the only match between them before they're split up, ie: Vince sends one of them to Smackdown or something, but I think in order to protect the heat and more importantly, the novelty of a real life rivalry coming to a head within WWE peramaters, Matt/Edge needs to be one titanic collision and then that's it. Seperation will only create more tension between the two characters on screen and could eventually lead to a BIG pay off in the form of an interpromotional grudge match at WrestleMania 22. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I really don't know that this feud will have enough steam to last another 8 months until WM 22, or even past Summerslam. The crowd will be at its hottest for their initial lockup, and the longer they draw the angle out afterwards the more apathetic the crowd will become, now that what was a surefire shoot-esque stunt has descended into WWE makebelieve. It'll all depend on the handling of their SS match. Personally, as many others have said, I can see Edge defeating Matt Hardy and Hardy disappearing immediately enough, given that they've shaken his one money match out of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daileyxplanet 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2005 Hopefully, they can get the IC title on Hardy then RVD and Hardy can pump out some good matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites