Hilarious Note From This Week's Observer.....

[Guest TroughOfMantaur]

According to Meltzer, the company already had quite a few interviews in the can for the DVD under the direction of it being "Screwed: The Bret Hart Story", which was basically going to be there retaliation for Wrestling With Shadows. They had already filmed interviews with Ross, Benoit, Bruce Prichard, Lawler, Michaels, and others...asking them all leading questions trying to make it sound like bashing Bret. Ross, Benoit, and Piper were not game for it, but Hogan said, and I quote "when Hart wouldn't put Michaels over, he ceased being one of the boys, he could no longer be trusted by the boys, and that's why nobody in WCW would do business with him.

 

There's plenty of good stuff in this week's Observer...like Jeff Hardy coming back as Willow the Whisp, who will acknowledge that the "other" side of Jeff hasn't been so good lately (kind of a Foley split personality gimmick).

[JN News 0]

According to Meltzer, the company already had quite a few interviews in the can for the DVD under the direction of it being "Screwed: The Bret Hart Story", which was basically going to be there retaliation for Wrestling With Shadows.  They had already filmed interviews with Ross, Benoit, Bruce Prichard, Lawler, Michaels, and others...asking them all leading questions trying to make it sound like bashing Bret.  Ross, Benoit, and Piper were not game for it, but Hogan said, and I quote "when Hart wouldn't put Michaels over, he ceased being one of the boys, he could no longer be trusted by the boys, and that's why nobody in WCW would do business with him.

 

There's plenty of good stuff in this week's Observer...like Jeff Hardy coming back as Willow the Whisp, who will acknowledge that the "other" side of Jeff hasn't been so good lately (kind of a Foley split personality gimmick).

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Oh, fuck Hulk Hogan, and whatever he says about Bret. Fuck Hogan.

[algrim 0]

I agree. He should be one to talk. What a prick.

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

Can't wait, hope I get mine on Monday.

[Guest JMA]

It's more than a little disturbing how WWE can get wrestlers to spout forth propaganda so easily. Someone needs to stop all this damn revisionist history.

[iliketurtles 0]

So did Hogan stop being one of the boys when he refused to work with Bret in 1993?

[Guest TroughOfMantaur]

It's more than a little disturbing how WWE can get wrestlers to spout forth propaganda so easily. Someone needs to stop all this damn revisionist history.

 

Meltzer says Ross did not knock Hart at all and was very diplomatic in his interview. Benoit refused to say anything bad about Bret at all. With Piper, since they knew he was close to the Harts, Steve Lombardi asked him leading questions trying to get answers that sounded negative. It didn't really work though. Michales had nothing positive to say about Bret at all (I was kind of hoping he would let go seeing as he even apologized for stuff he did back in the AWA days to Nick Bockwinkel backstage at Vengeance). Metlzer says Bret was pretty amused watching Hogan's aforementioned interview, then watching him drop his name for a face pop during the debate with Michaels that following Monday night on RAW.

[Guest JMA]

It's more than a little disturbing how WWE can get wrestlers to spout forth propaganda so easily. Someone needs to stop all this damn revisionist history.

 

Meltzer says Ross did not knock Hart at all and was very diplomatic in his interview. Benoit refused to say anything bad about Bret at all. With Piper, since they knew he was close to the Harts, Steve Lombardi asked him leading questions trying to get answers that sounded negative. It didn't really work though. Michales had nothing positive to say about Bret at all (I was kind of hoping he would let go seeing as he even apologized for stuff he did back in the AWA days to Nick Bockwinkel backstage at Vengeance). Metlzer says Bret was pretty amused watching Hogan's aforementioned interview, then watching him drop his name for a face pop during the debate with Michaels that following Monday night on RAW.

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At least Bret didn't back out of the DVD. If anything, he's got to be happy with this; Bret looks good here, while the others (besides Ross, Benoit, Piper, and Waltman) all look like sleazy company men--and deservedly so.

 

Still, it amuses me how Vince has become the "Big Brother" of the professional wrestling industry. It's like he's trying to kayfabe reality.

[Guest Rrrsh]

According to Meltzer, the company already had quite a few interviews in the can for the DVD under the direction of it being "Screwed: The Bret Hart Story", which was basically going to be there retaliation for Wrestling With Shadows.  They had already filmed interviews with Ross, Benoit, Bruce Prichard, Lawler, Michaels, and others...asking them all leading questions trying to make it sound like bashing Bret.  Ross, Benoit, and Piper were not game for it, but Hogan said, and I quote "when Hart wouldn't put Michaels over, he ceased being one of the boys, he could no longer be trusted by the boys, and that's why nobody in WCW would do business with him.

 

There's plenty of good stuff in this week's Observer...like Jeff Hardy coming back as Willow the Whisp, who will acknowledge that the "other" side of Jeff hasn't been so good lately (kind of a Foley split personality gimmick).

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Oh, fuck Hulk Hogan, and whatever he says about Bret. Fuck Hogan.

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And people say my Sig gives my biases away....

[cabbageboy 0]

If they were going to do a real tribute DVD to Bret then I'd be more inclined to buy this. But this DVD? It sounds really lame, and I am amazed Bret would even be a part of something that sounds like it's trying to bury him. Burying him and making money off his name, what a business.

 

This almost has to be some sort of angle, not sure how but what other reason could there be?

[Guest Rrrsh]

If they were going to do a real tribute DVD to Bret then I'd be more inclined to buy this.  But this DVD?  It sounds really lame, and I am amazed Bret would even be a part of something that sounds like it's trying to bury him.  Burying him and making money off his name, what a business.

 

This almost has to be some sort of angle, not sure how but what other reason could there be?

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What do you mean? I think they are trying to be controversal, yet factual. I dont see where your coming from dude.

[Hektik 0]

If they were going to do a real tribute DVD to Bret then I'd be more inclined to buy this.  But this DVD?  It sounds really lame, and I am amazed Bret would even be a part of something that sounds like it's trying to bury him.  Burying him and making money off his name, what a business.

 

This almost has to be some sort of angle, not sure how but what other reason could there be?

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What do you mean? I think they are trying to be controversal, yet factual. I dont see where your coming from dude.

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No they weren't. The DVD was going to be a total burial job like the Ultimate Warrior DVD is going to be. When Bret signed on to be part of the DVD, he changed that. Now most of the interviews burying him will no longer be in the there and he will no longer be the heel in his own DVD.

[Guest TroughOfMantaur]

Meltzer gives the implication that anything burying Hart is gonna be gone from the set.

 

In less than two weeks, they present the finished product to Bret. If Bret doesn't approve, he has the contractual right to remove himself from the project, and WWE loses the rights to show any of the interviews he did for the disc. Meltzer says with all that both sides went through, he doesn't think it could come to that, though

[Guest JMA]

I wonder if this is how WWE plans to get old stars to do business with them again: "Join us or we'll mock your entire legacy and sell it to the masses."

 

That being said, I REALLY wish that those comments were a work.

[Styles 0]

This week's issue is really good, the Iron Shiek story was tremendous.

[Guest Ransome]

I wonder if this is how WWE plans to get old stars to do business with them again: "Join us or we'll mock your entire legacy and sell it to the masses."

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Of course not - after all, most of them are tempted back by money alone (Roddy Piper, Sable, Eric Bischoff, etc).

 

I wonder which other wrestlers took the bait and slandered Hart, besides Hogan, and what their comments were.

[Slickster 0]

I wonder if this is how WWE plans to get old stars to do business with them again: "Join us or we'll mock your entire legacy and sell it to the masses."

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I think that's about the size of it. I'm expecting a Bruno Sammartino set for next year just so Vince can bury him before he kicks the bucket.

[CheesalaIsGood 0]

Well at least Bret won't BE buried now. I HOPE they DO bury the Warrior. Couldn't care less about Sammatino.

[SuperJerk 0]

According to Meltzer, the company already had quite a few interviews in the can for the DVD under the direction of it being "Screwed: The Bret Hart Story", which was basically going to be there retaliation for Wrestling With Shadows. 

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Didn't "Wrestling with Shadows" come out in 1998? Wasn't that 7 years ago? Didn't they already do an episode of "Confidential" about this?

 

And people say BRET needs to get over it?

[Guest Brian]

Vince is extremely confident that he can control wrestling history; that's not just why he's re-writing things, but it's why he's been purchasing up the respective libraries of opposing territories/companies.

[Guest MugumboMcgee]

According to Meltzer, the company already had quite a few interviews in the can for the DVD under the direction of it being "Screwed: The Bret Hart Story", which was basically going to be there retaliation for Wrestling With Shadows.  They had already filmed interviews with Ross, Benoit, Bruce Prichard, Lawler, Michaels, and others...asking them all leading questions trying to make it sound like bashing Bret.  Ross, Benoit, and Piper were not game for it, but Hogan said, and I quote "when Hart wouldn't put Michaels over, he ceased being one of the boys, he could no longer be trusted by the boys, and that's why nobody in WCW would do business with him.

 

There's plenty of good stuff in this week's Observer...like Jeff Hardy coming back as Willow the Whisp, who will acknowledge that the "other" side of Jeff hasn't been so good lately (kind of a Foley split personality gimmick).

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Oh, fuck Hulk Hogan, and whatever he says about Bret. Fuck Hogan.

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Fuck Hogan, enough said.

[JustJoe2k5 0]

According to Meltzer, the company already had quite a few interviews in the can for the DVD under the direction of it being "Screwed: The Bret Hart Story", which was basically going to be there retaliation for Wrestling With Shadows.  They had already filmed interviews with Ross, Benoit, Bruce Prichard, Lawler, Michaels, and others...asking them all leading questions trying to make it sound like bashing Bret.  Ross, Benoit, and Piper were not game for it, but Hogan said, and I quote "when Hart wouldn't put Michaels over, he ceased being one of the boys, he could no longer be trusted by the boys, and that's why nobody in WCW would do business with him.

 

There's plenty of good stuff in this week's Observer...like Jeff Hardy coming back as Willow the Whisp, who will acknowledge that the "other" side of Jeff hasn't been so good lately (kind of a Foley split personality gimmick).

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Answered your own question right there. WWE was looking for negative comments from different superstars on Bret Hart, and Hulk Hogan gave it to them. Kind of like in any other job where your boss asks you to do something, would you do it or not? Hulk Hogan did his job while Chris Benoit, Jim Ross, and Roddy Piper didn't. So, should we really be insulting someone who was just doing their job? I wish people would kind of leave this forum to wrestling discussion, instead of using worthless news to try and start negative discussion.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

According to Meltzer, the company already had quite a few interviews in the can for the DVD under the direction of it being "Screwed: The Bret Hart Story", which was basically going to be there retaliation for Wrestling With Shadows.  They had already filmed interviews with Ross, Benoit, Bruce Prichard, Lawler, Michaels, and others...asking them all leading questions trying to make it sound like bashing Bret.  Ross, Benoit, and Piper were not game for it, but Hogan said, and I quote "when Hart wouldn't put Michaels over, he ceased being one of the boys, he could no longer be trusted by the boys, and that's why nobody in WCW would do business with him.

 

There's plenty of good stuff in this week's Observer...like Jeff Hardy coming back as Willow the Whisp, who will acknowledge that the "other" side of Jeff hasn't been so good lately (kind of a Foley split personality gimmick).

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Answered your own question right there. WWE was looking for negative comments from different superstars on Bret Hart, and Hulk Hogan gave it to them. Kind of like in any other job where your boss asks you to do something, would you do it or not? Hulk Hogan did his job while Chris Benoit, Jim Ross, and Roddy Piper didn't. So, should we really be insulting someone who was just doing their job? I wish people would kind of leave this forum to wrestling discussion, instead of using worthless news to try and start negative discussion.

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Piper gave negative comments.

 

I wish people would kind of leave this forum to wrestling discussion, instead of using worthless news to try and start negative discussion.

 

This is wrestling discussion, like it or not. After all, it is about a wrestling promotion putting out a wrestling DVD covering a wrestler. Just because it's news you don't seem able to take in, it doesn't make it worthless.

[SuperJerk 0]

WWE was looking for negative comments from different superstars on Bret Hart, and Hulk Hogan gave it to them.  Kind of like in any other job where your boss asks you to do something, would you do it or not? Hulk Hogan did his job while Chris Benoit, Jim Ross, and Roddy Piper didn't.

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If I'm a bricklayer, and the foreman asks me to punch my friend in the face, that's not asking me to do my job.

[Jericho2000Mark 0]

Hogan and Michaels are the two biggest no jobbing pieces of motherfucking shit in the history of wrestling, making Hogan's statement even more pathetic. Besides, HBK refused to job to Bret at that year's Mania, after Bret basically made him a star a year earlier, so he was just repaying the favour.

[cabbageboy 0]

Rrrsh, yeah but this stuff isn't factual....it was a bunch of guys doing a hack job on Bret Hart, at least if you believe this Hogan quote. The stupid aspect of this is that who would buy a Bret DVD? Obviously big Hart fans. Would those people really want to hear hours of trashing and burying of the guy? The entire point of a DVD retrospective is to praise the guy's career, which makes the Warrior DVD odd as well.

 

What's even more bizarre is that WCW came off looking VERY good in the Monday Night War DVD (so did mid 90s WWF but I expected that). They had hours of legit footage to illustrate WCW's downfall but didn't really mention it, not even the Fingerpoke directly. It was just sorta like "Yeah the WWF got their act together, WCW started to struggle, and thus Vince bought em."

 

If they were willing to make WCW look better than they really were, why would they go to such lengths to bury Bret?

[WrestlingFan4Ever 0]

I love Bret Hart in the ring but seriously, he can go fuck himself. Bottom line, though Hogan has no right to say shit cause he's a backstabbing prick, the fact is that Bret Hart should have jobbed on his way out of the WWE to whoever Vince wanted him too. It doesn't matter if he hated Michaels or didn't want to job to him again because Michaels refused to job to Bret or if Michaels was a dick to him. It's a time honored tradition to job on your way out of the company.

[The Buzz 0]

WWE has been issuing out propaganda out there about wrestlers forever. They did it to Warrior, Hogan, Davey Boy, and others when they didn't leave the company on a good note.

 

The dvd thing that they are doing to the Warrior and were gonna do to Hart is what finally made me stop watching their programming. But if they continue to do this it's not like the wrestlers have to worry, they barely draw 3 million fans to watch their programs on free tv let alone buy the dvds.

[WrestlingFan4Ever 0]

The dvd thing that they are doing to the Warrior and were gonna do to Hart is what finally made me stop watching their programming.

 

A DVD made you stop watching and not Triple H fucking a dead corpse?

[CBright7831 0]

I would really love to see what some people had to say about the Katie Vick angle in 2002 on this board. That would be hilarious.

 

EDIT - Forgive me for getting off topic.