IWD Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/p...wi/pwi50005.htm Any thoughts? Cheers.
Si82 Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 Batista #1? John Cena #2? I thought technical ability was high on the criteria list for this. This chart is insane. It really is.
Dobbs 3K Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 They factor in accomplishments within the year, so Batista and Cena make sense as 1 and 2. Remember the year Dean Malenko won? Man, that was weird.
pochorenella Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 I remember that issue. It really boggled my mind since I thought Austin was the clear #1. They argued that since there was no clear-cut decision for the top spot they would simply give it to the best technical wrestler in the world, hence they gave it to Malenko. From #2 on they used their normal criteria, which is accomplishments for the time period and overall ability. For this year I don't mind the top spots, but I'm certainly disappointed with the placing they gave Shawn MIchaels. I guess the time when he was injured was a big detriment since it is within the time-period for qualification, but there's no doubt in my mind that if you were to factor his performances for 2005 alone then he's the Wrestler of the Year by far.
cabbageboy Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 Malenko being #1 was awesome. Hey, could Austin go out there and ground a cruiserweight with leg work for 20 mins. and make you LIKE it? I think not. Not shocking that Batista and Cena are 1 and 2 though. Hell in 1995 Nash was #1 due to his long title run. The PWI 500 is more sane than their year end awards. Hell, in 1996 The Giant won wrestler of the year even though I can't for the life of me recall much he did beyond a mediocre title run. Even though I didn't care for Shawn Michaels he was easily wrestler of the year in 1996. Ditto Lex Luger in 1997, where did THAT shit come from? His lame 1 week title reign justified him being WOTY over Steve Austin, Bret Hart, etc.
The Mandarin Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 Dean Malenko winning the PWI 500 was great. Dean Malenko became "huge" (well, not physically) in my eyes after that. I remember being initially ticked off Austin didn't win, though.
Dangerous A Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 It's PWI. Isn't their stuff still aimed at marks? I put more stock in DVDVR's 500, where at least they had some fairly consistent criteria, although they don't do the 500 list anymore.
Red Baron Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 I think I saw Zach Gowen in that list somewhere. Like in the mid 300's.
World's Worst Man Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 If one wanted to factor in both in-ring ability and accomplishments, I would imagine that Kojima would be #1. You know, that whole 4-crown thing. But then one has to remember that it's PWI and chuckle a bit. It's essentially for WWE fanboys, and they throw in guys like Kojima or Tenzan to make it appear like they know what they're talking about.
Guest Brian Posted September 1, 2005 Report Posted September 1, 2005 12. Ultimo Guerrero 13. Chris Benoit 14. Rey Misterio Jr 15. Eddie Guerrero 16. Kenta Kobashi 17. Christopher Daniels 18. Mistico This block rules.
cabbageboy Posted September 1, 2005 Report Posted September 1, 2005 Well the thing is by definition they can't have a Japanese guy #1 for various reasons, mainly that most of the reading audience has seen the guy. Thus they used to put Misawa or Muto at #2 or so.
CanadianChick Posted September 1, 2005 Report Posted September 1, 2005 365: Dropkick Murphy 356: Aaron Idol 335: Ladies Choice 322: Michelle Star 292: Juggernaut 289: Scotty Mac Go Pacific Northwest talent!
Guest Brian Posted September 1, 2005 Report Posted September 1, 2005 365: Dropkick Murphy 356: Aaron Idol 335: Ladies Choice 322: Michelle Star 292: Juggernaut 289: Scotty Mac Go Pacific Northwest talent! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Does Adam Firestorm still wrestle?
CanadianChick Posted September 1, 2005 Report Posted September 1, 2005 365: Dropkick Murphy 356: Aaron Idol 335: Ladies Choice 322: Michelle Star 292: Juggernaut 289: Scotty Mac Go Pacific Northwest talent! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Does Adam Firestorm still wrestle? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, but not here. I didn't include Vance Nevada either, since he was wrestling out East all this year. I think Firestorm's in Calgary.
CanadianGuitarist Posted September 1, 2005 Report Posted September 1, 2005 Dropkick Murphy, while I love the band, is essentially a gimmick(I would think, I've never seen him). But a credible wrestler? That kinda seems like Theo Huckstable or Eddie Winslow being held in the same regard around here as KKK.
CanadianChick Posted September 1, 2005 Report Posted September 1, 2005 He's a good wrestler, actually. The name is gimmicky, but he's not really.
CanadianGuitarist Posted September 1, 2005 Report Posted September 1, 2005 He's a good wrestler, actually. The name is gimmicky, but he's not really. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You were all over that reply. Is he remniscent of, say, Spicy McHaggis? What's his entrance? I'll eat my hat if it's not Bar Room Hero.
CanadianChick Posted September 1, 2005 Report Posted September 1, 2005 Funny enough, it's not even a Dropkick Murphy song. It's "Mother" by Danzig.
CanadianGuitarist Posted September 1, 2005 Report Posted September 1, 2005 Funny enough, it's not even a Dropkick Murphy song. It's "Mother" by Danzig. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A superb choice, but file this under things that make you go whaaaaa?
The Mandarin Posted September 1, 2005 Report Posted September 1, 2005 hooray for Delirious <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 372 is pretty good. I'm sure Mace Mendoza doesn't know Bananaphone, though. 33. Muhammad Hassan 34. Shawn Michaels 35. L.A. Park 36. Paul London This block is swank too. Hassan = underrated comedy worker.
Guest cacheton Posted September 1, 2005 Report Posted September 1, 2005 209. Ultimo Dragon 238. Pantera 239. Masato Tanaka 245. Great Sasuke 300. Teddy Hart 342. Zach Gowen 359. Lash Leroux How the mighty have fallen. 137. Scotty 2 Hotty 133. Kenzo Suzuki 104. Tyson Tomko 92. Rosey 93. Maven 94. Sylvan Grenier 83. Gene Snitsky WTF??? And here's a good one: 98. B.G. James 99. Keiji Muto 100. James Gibson
TheFranchise Posted September 1, 2005 Report Posted September 1, 2005 290. Daniel Puder 300. Teddy Hart ----
King Cucaracha Posted September 1, 2005 Report Posted September 1, 2005 41. Carlito Carrbean Cool 42. Mitsuharu Misawa D'as not cool. 94. Sylvan Grenier 95. Colt Cabana Alright, fuck that. This is so random it's not even funny. Oh, and I think they forgot Chris Hero. At least Darkness Crabtree got on there though.
Dobbs 3K Posted September 1, 2005 Report Posted September 1, 2005 One other thing to add about Malenko winning...I don't believe Austin had yet been WWF Champion at that point...he had the IC title run, but that wasn't that huge or anything. Malenko had about four title runs that year, IIRC...US, Cruiserweight, I think he held the TV title...Bret Hart and Hulk Hogan had both been sporadic in their defenses, so I believe that was one of the other main reasons Malenko won that year...he had the most accomplishments and most defenses in a US ring.
stahl Posted September 1, 2005 Report Posted September 1, 2005 That's Dunn from Dunn and Marcos. I think Super Dragon was left off this list as well.
Guest Arnold_OldSchool Posted September 1, 2005 Report Posted September 1, 2005 Ken Kennedy made it in the top 250 as did Diavari .... The Mid west is so proud of our chaps
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