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[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Why does he need to be built back up?

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He's been tied to the anchor that is Kip James for a long time. He needs a couple of major and decisive wins to be established once again as a monster that people can believe in. We know he's a monster, but the fans, what there of them, that Spike will attract don't know he's a monster.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

Hopefully this means that Raven/Jarrett II goes down how Raven/Jarrett I should have: Jarrett eating a DDT and then being pinned 1-2-3.

 

And if he bitches and start refusing to job? Hmmm...who would frighten him with the threat of physical violence like 'Taker did to HBK at WM14? Whoever could (likely a good portion of the roster...JOE, BROWN, possibly HOYT and ABYSS) should be around just to make sure shit goes down as planned in case JJ throws a tantrum.

 

As long as Raven gets the belt back, or Jarrett drops it at BFG, I have no quarrels with this. It sets a precedent that BIG DEALS can happen for TNA without it even being a TV taping or a PPV, which means that when they start running house shows they might get a better attendance if they have important things happen now and then (also, it might be a good idea to tape the house shows anyway for release on home video, much like ECW used to do and call it "Fancam" shows) off TV and PPV.

 

BUT...if JJ pulls his usual bullshit, then I'm going back to the whole "not watching TNA as long as he has the belt" belief. Putting the belt back on JJ was what helped drop their popularity in the first place, so why would putting it back on him when the majority of the core fanbase already dislikes him and won't pay to see him, and the "casuals" left that they'll try to attract won't give a fuck about him when they have somebody playing the same game and doing a much better job at it on the rival company's show?

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Hopefully this means that Raven/Jarrett II goes down how Raven/Jarrett I should have: Jarrett eating a DDT and then being pinned 1-2-3.

 

And if he bitches and start refusing to job? Hmmm...who would frighten him with the threat of physical violence like 'Taker did to HBK at WM14? Whoever could (likely a good portion of the roster...JOE, BROWN, possibly HOYT and ABYSS) should be around just to make sure shit goes down as planned in case JJ throws a tantrum.

 

As long as Raven gets the belt back, or Jarrett drops it at BFG, I have no quarrels with this. It sets a precedent that BIG DEALS can happen for TNA without it even being a TV taping or a PPV, which means that when they start running house shows they might get a better attendance if they have important things happen now and then (also, it might be a good idea to tape the house shows anyway for release on home video, much like ECW used to do and call it "Fancam" shows) off TV and PPV.

 

BUT...if JJ pulls his usual bullshit, then I'm going back to the whole "not watching TNA as long as he has the belt" belief. Putting the belt back on JJ was what helped drop their popularity in the first place, so why would putting it back on him when the majority of the core fanbase already dislikes him and won't pay to see him, and the "casuals" left that they'll try to attract won't give a fuck about him when they have somebody playing the same game and doing a much better job at it on the rival company's show?

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I will be shocked if JJ drops the belt before the end of the year. TNA is officially back to being the Jeff Jarrett Show, and anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.

[Placebo Effect 0]

Fucking shit fuck fuck fuck fuck.

 

You hear that sound? That's a quarter of the people who tune into the first TNA on Spike switching over to Mad TV.

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

I had fun at the show. The reaction to Jarrett winning was a "Damnit... wait... wait.. they just changed the NWA title... in Windsor... WHAT THE HELL? AWESOME!". It was very neat seeing Mike Tenay do ring intros and thank us for being a test market for TNA house shows while Jeremy Borash ran around filming things. It was a neat thing to be there for but I hope Jarrett is a long term plan of theirs.

[CBright7831 0]

*sigh*

 

DAMMIT!

 

Mike Tenay do ring intros and thank us for being a test market for TNA house shows while Jeremy Borash ran around filming things.

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What a fucking tool.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

I would have Jarrett defending against Jeff Hardy at BFG, with AMW interfering to help Jarrett win. Beneath that, I would have a mini-tournament with Monty Brown taking on Raven and Abyss in a three-way at BFG, with the rules that whoever loses the fall is eliminated from the tournament, and the other two meet at the November PPV to decide who gets the NWA title shot at the December PPV, but with the added stipulation that the guy who got the pin in the BFG three-way gets to choose the rules of the match. Brown can Pounce and pin Abyss to win the BFG three-way, face Raven in a Serengeti Streetfight at the November PPV by putting him through a table with a Pounce, and he can then go on to beat Jarrett for the NWA title to end the year, and TNA can go into 2006 with a rebuilt Monty Brown on top, who will be fresh in the eyes of the new fans, and they can build to a possible Brown v Samoa Joe match somewhere down the line for Joe to get the belt. As for who Jarrett faces at the November PPV, I say stick him in the semi-main event against Kevin Nash or some other such ‘star’, and let the X-Division guys still the show on top.

[Guest]

I wish they could book that well.

[Styles 0]

Seriously, what the fuck? This really takes the wind out of the sails from the optimism coming out of the last PPV. I just keep re-reading that TNA press release and it's like a bad dream of a parody come to life. Ugg....I remain guarded optimistic about the Spike TV debut, but I think Jeff Jarrett is a lot smarter than we give him credit for.

[Guest MrBriggs]

Seriously, what the fuck? This really takes the wind out of the sails from the optimism coming out of the last PPV. I just keep re-reading that TNA press release and it's like a bad dream of a parody come to life. Ugg....I remain guarded optimistic about the Spike TV debut, but I think Jeff Jarrett is a lot smarter than we give him credit for.

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I agree. I'm so angry and upset by this that I feel like boycotting TNA and completely forgetting it exists until he drops the title.

 

I FUCKING HATE THAT GUY. FUCKING USELESS, OBNOXIOUS, NO TALENT, EGOTISTICAL, OVER THE HILL, HILLBILLY, NEVER WAS, PEICE OF SHIT, MIDCARDER!

[Magus 0]

I know this is played out, but this is so much like WCW it just isn't funny. Just when they start getting a head of steam and go in the right direction, they make the same mistakes all over again.

 

Now I'm happy that AMW finally turned heel, but sticking them with Jarrett just means he's going to leech off their heat and they'll play second fiddle to him. Otherwise, its a good three person heel alliance and I don't mind it. As for the NWA Title, if this goes any other way besides dropping thet title back to Raven at BFG, then fuck it all.

 

TNA is DEAD with Jarrett on top. And while I want to be optimistic and believe that they're setting up a "face winning the title from the heel for the big show" angle, history has taught me otherwise. Unless a miracle happens, we can look forward to another long and shitty reign from Jarrett where he jerks off on the NWA World Heavyweight title and no one else gets over. Fuck TNA.

[razazteca 0]

I would have Jarrett defending against Jeff Hardy at BFG, with AMW interfering to help Jarrett win. Beneath that, I would have a mini-tournament with Monty Brown taking on Raven and Abyss in a three-way at BFG, with the rules that whoever loses the fall is eliminated from the tournament, and the other two meet at the November PPV to decide who gets the NWA title shot at the December PPV, but with the added stipulation that the guy who got the pin in the BFG three-way gets to choose the rules of the match. Brown can Pounce and pin Abyss to win the BFG three-way, face Raven in a Serengeti Streetfight at the November PPV by putting him through a table with a Pounce, and he can then go on to beat Jarrett for the NWA title to end the year, and TNA can go into 2006 with a rebuilt Monty Brown on top, who will be fresh in the eyes of the new fans, and they can build to a possible Brown v Samoa Joe match somewhere down the line for Joe to get the belt. As for who Jarrett faces at the November PPV, I say stick him in the semi-main event against Kevin Nash or some other such ‘star’, and let the X-Division guys still the show on top.

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I want to see TNA redo the Shane Douglas angle from ECW with Joe throwing down the NWA World Title in favor of the X Division title.

[Styles 0]

The inevitable happens, although you still may not like it

 

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Jeff Jarrett defeated Raven tonight to win the NWA heavyweight title, so when TNA starts on Spike TV on 10/1, Jarrett goes on as the initial champion. Chris Harris & James Storm turned heel and interfered to give Jarrett the win, to do an attempt at doing an incarnation of The Four Horsemen.

 

Let me guess, the 4th man is Kip James and the group will be called "The King's Court".

 

Monty Brown becomes the new top face and chases for the title which in it of itself isn't too bad, but I have a feeling it will take a few months of Double J as champ before he wins it.

 

A more intriguing though less likely scenario I've heard floated is that officals were so impressed with Samoa Joe that they're moving him out of the X division (as evidenced by AJ and not Joe winning the X title as many expected) and will have Joe destroy Jarrett to start the new era on Spike....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

....yes I know, no chance in hell, but it's out there.

[Guest Gary Busey]

Well this kills my interest in the product.

 

Edit: Are there any more house shows they are doing in their "tour" of Canada to switch it back, or to someone else? I know Impact until their Spike debut is just "Best of" recap stuff.

[RedJed 0]

This fuckin has to be Raven/Jarrett at BFG with a loser leaves TNA stip and for the title, and Raven goes over. Otherwise this is absolutely absurd. Period.

[Magus 0]

This fuckin has to be Raven/Jarrett at BFG with a loser leaves TNA stip and for the title, and Raven goes over. Otherwise this is absolutely absurd. Period.

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That's really the only logical explanation, Red. As bad as it is to even THINK of putting the title back on Jarrett, its better to have it switch hands from a heel to a face at TNA's biggest show. Raven/Jarrett is still TNA's biggest match, so hopefully this is D'Amore's plan. Hopefully we'll see Raven getting pissed on the Spike debut and demanding a rematch to regain the title and rid us of Jarrett. I fuckin' hope and pray this is the plan, because otherwise I'm gonna be pissed.

[Scroby 0]

Wait, your almighty scrob (let the jokes out) just had a idea. What if they use this to bring in the Dudleys? The rematch happens, Raven's in control and looks like he's about to win when a ref bump happens, AMW comes down and interferes then the Dudleys run out of the crowd and save Raven by taking out AMW then Raven hits a eveflown (i don't like calling it the Raven effect) on Jarrett and gets the pin?

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

I don't see how anyone can realistically expect Jarrett to drop the belt back to Raven at BFG, or to anyone, at any point in the near future.

[Styles 0]

I don't see how anyone can realistically expect Jarrett to drop the belt back to Raven at BFG, or to anyone, at any point in the near future.

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It's Planet Jarrett Syndrome.

 

We're in denial, the next step is anger, then a feeling of worthlessness and then finally acceptance.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

I don't see how anyone can realistically expect Jarrett to drop the belt back to Raven at BFG, or to anyone, at any point in the near future.

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It's Planet Jarrett Syndrome.

 

We're in denial, the next step is anger, then a feeling of worthlessness and then finally acceptance.

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The final step is turning off TNA.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Way ahead of you guys.

[Sass 0]

Ron Killings over Raven and then Monty Brown over Killings on the first SpikeTV show, with Brown being pushed to the moon, is a way I could have seen TNA making a dent in the wrestling world. Give minority wrestlers a chance since they could step up out from Vince's Samba Simba world. Pray that Shocker becomes a better wrestler over time and then let him bulk up to face Brown in a title match somewhere down the line. Killings, Konnan, Homicide, and Apollo could all feud with Brown at various points while also letting Brown thwomp JJ, Nash, Hall, Raven, Rhino, Abyss, and any other believable heavyweight threats to him. This guy could be the next Goldberg if he stops acting like a goober when in interviews and just kills guys dead in the ring. The matches with Brown shouldn't last too long.

 

The big fish to lure in for a title shot would be Goldberg vs. Brown, especially if Monty gets hot.

 

Nice going though, TNA.

[AnonymousBroccoli 0]

I was at the show too. As far as I remember, the finish came when America's Most Wanted came out, gave Raven the Death Sentence, and Jarrett got the pin. It was pretty bizarre. I think the crowd was stunned. I kept waiting for a Dusty finish, but it never happened.

 

It was a typical Jarrett title match, complete with a bit of a crowd brawl, guitar shot (by Raven, for a change), ref bump, interference, and those kind of shenanigans.

 

AMW were kind of heels by proxy, as they were on the American team of the Can-Am Cup. Granted, that didn't stop us from cheering Jerry Lynn and Rhino. They did cut a promo before their match, digging at Canada. It was kinda funny to have "Tennessee Cowboy" James Storm call us hicks. With the Jarrett alliance, I'm sure that'll cement the turn in the US too.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

At least they finally changed the title at a non-TNA show. What they do next will decide how I feel about it.

[eirejmcmahon 0]

WHATINTHEFUCK?</Trailer Park Boys>

 

Still, anything's better than watching Old Man Taker shooting magical lightning bolts at cheques.

[Silence 0]

I immediately shouted "FUCK!" as soon as I read about Jarrett becoming the Champion for the millionth time.

 

Seriously, TNA's back to sucking again because apparently: Jeff Jarrett has won the power struggle. I don't think I feel like tuning in to Spike TV's first TNA show anymore.

[King Cucaracha 0]

Debuting on Spike with Jarrett on top is bad.

 

Debuting on Spike with Jarrett and AMW as the top heel stable is plain terrible. Bushleague doesn't even begin to describe it. And then as it's a Horseman rip-off, who would they put as the fourth guy? Rhino? Kip James? Nobody who can save the stable, that's for sure.

 

Yeesh!

[The Decemberists 0]

 

Fuck....

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Ah well, I enjoyed Raven's reign while it still lasted.

[Ultimo Dugas 0]

Goddamnit.