The One And Only Unforgiven Thread

[Gert T 0]

No, I meant most likely he would request the title shot at the beginning of the show (Raw) and lose later that night.

 

I like Edge on Raw, but I wouldn't mind seeing him go to SD! to change things up.

 

That's what is kind of frustrating about the MITB thing, they have a lot of different avenues they could explore with it. (Especially since the World Title is on SD! now), but to me, it almost seems they'll just go with the routine Raw main event route, hope not though.

[CanadianChick 0]

I really do think that the rubber match will be at Taboo Tuesday as a Last Man Standing (Fans choice **winkwink**), rather than this cage match being the blow off. LOTC, I can't take credit for the idea, but I can expand on it. I think that there is no way Matt's winning the blow off. Just call it a hunch. But I say that Edge wins at Taboo Tuesday and the next Raw, boast how he beat Matt (of course, it'll be by devious means because heels simply can't win cleanly it seems with even-steven booking). This will be the Raw he attacks Lita (just a Edgucution or something), saying that the one thing this feud made him realize is what trouble a piece of ass can cause. After that, he can move to Smackdown and be a real hated heel while also being credible. Maybe Matt and Lita can kiss and makeup, but I frankly don't care. The point is Edge can move to SD because the only heel after this month's Eddie feud is Orton, and they're obviously saving that match for Wrestlemania. Plus, besides Eddie, he'll be an actual heel to boo. He'll be better than Eddie even, since Eddie will always have his fans.

[Guest Coffey]

If WWE really wanted to get "interactive" they could let the fans vote on the stipulations themselves before voting on a winner of said stipulations.

 

That way, Last Man Standing would have to make the ballot and then win the ballot to become the match.

 

As far as Unforgiven goes, meh.

[Guest Ransome]

Cena vs Angle

Winner: Cena

 

Carlito vs Flair

Winner: Carlito

 

Shawn Michaels vs Chris Masters

Winner: Shawn Michaels

 

Edge vs Matt Hardy

Winner: Edge

 

Big Show vs Snitsky

Winner: Big Show

 

Hurricane & Rosey vs Cade & Murdoch

Winners: Cade & Murdoch

 

Trish & Ashley vs Torrie & Victoria

Winners: Trish & Ashley

 

Shelton Benjamin vs Kerwin White

Winner: Shelton Benjamin

 

Most of the brand-only pay-per-views since their inception in 2003 have been useless filler shows, and the card for Unforgiven 2005 is particularly uninteresting, even considering the lowered standard for these shows. I really can't believe that anyone would throw their money away on such a weak, poorly planned pay-per-view card.

[The Mandarin 0]

Maybe Matt and Lita can kiss and makeup, but I frankly don't care.

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That's fine with me, because Lita needs as much makeup as she can get.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

What's this Smackdown you're speaking of? I don't know what that is and I know WWE doesn't either.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Maybe Matt and Lita can kiss and makeup, but I frankly don't care.

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That's fine with me, because Lita needs as much makeup as she can get.

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ZING!~

[cabbageboy 0]

At least this show has Angle/Cena and Matt/Edge in a cage....GAB this year didn't have jack shit on it aside from seeing Hassan get his ass kicked. Anyway, predictions:

 

WWE Title Match

John Cena .VS. Kurt Angle.

Winner: I'm on record as saying Angle will refuse to break the Anklelock and get DQed...and everyone will be pissed.

 

"Steel Cage" Match

Matt Hardy V1 .VS. Edge (with Lita).

Winner: Matt. He needs to get something in this feud.

 

WWE Intercontinental Title Match

Carlito Carribean Cool .VS. Ric Flair.

Winner: Flair. This is the WTF? moment of the night. I think even WWE knows Carlito is a fucking joke with any sort of title, and Flair will just transition it to whomever before Taboo Tuesday.

 

Singles Match

Shawn Michaels .VS. "The Masterpiece" Chris Masters.

Winner: Michaels. I've said it before, do you seriously think Michaels is going to job to Hogan and then job to a talentless, heatless rookie? Shawn to reverse the Masterlock a la Bret at S. Series 96.

 

Singles Match

The Big Show .VS. Gene Snitsky.

Winner: The Big Show. Snitsky winning serves no purpose I can see.

 

Women's Tag Match

Trish Stratus & Ashley .VS. Victoria & Torrie Wilson (with Candice Michelle).

Winners: Trish Stratus & Ashley. No point jobbing Trish out in her first match back to a non wrestling chick and a heatless Vicky. It also gives Ashley her first win.

 

World Tag Team Titles Match

Hurricane & Rosey .VS. Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch.

Winners: Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch. Need new champs and they might bury the Hurricane gimmick due to the real life disaster.

 

Singles Match

Kerwin White .VS. Shelton Benjamin.

Winner: Kerwin White. Don't ask me why but I think they'll feel the need to give Chavo some sort of PPV win under this new gimmick to justify it.

[CanadianChick 0]

Actually, maybe she'll get fired after her run as a heel. We have our PUNK RAWKER~! face chick now in Ashley, and Ashley is quite a bit hotter than Lita...

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

and younger...

[CanadianChick 0]

Normally, I'd argue that shouldn't be a factor, but Lita does look older than her 30 years.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

And you know with Vince, given a choice, he'd take the younger girl over the aging one.

[Guest Fook]

Lawler too

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Lawler goes without saying.

[Dr. Zaius 0]

Normally, I'd argue that shouldn't be a factor, but Lita does look older than her 30 years.

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Too bad she doesn't act like it.

 

I'm sorry, that was unfair, given that the general tendency of people in the wrestling business to resort to juvenile behavior, singling her out was uncalled for. True, but uncalled for.

 

(I suspect the reason Batista got over so big earlier this year is because he was, at the time, the only worker on the roster who acted like a mature adult. Something that was proptly flushed once he began doing backstage skits with Eric Bischoff.)

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Why isn't Edge/Matt a HIAC??

 

I mean, fuck, they've been using the word "hell" and saying things like "I'm going to take you to hell", and the theme of the match is "no one can escape", and they just make it a CAGE match?

 

It's akin to:

 

Edge: Ya, so what are you gonna do Hardy? You can't stop me on my quest to move up the ladder of the WWE.

 

Matt: Oh, I will stop you from moving up the LADDER, Edge.

 

Edge: You think you can throw me off the LADDER, Matt?

 

Matt: Oh yeah Edge, I'll throw you off, I'll throw you on, I will even throw the ladder on you!

 

Edge: You wish you could do all those things with a ladder Matt!

 

Matt: I can do all those things with a ladder, Edge!

 

Edge: Ladder!

 

Matt: LADDER!

 

Edge: LAAADEEEERR!!!

 

Matt: Alright, that's it Edge, you and ME, in a LUMBERJACK MATCH!

[CanadianChick 0]

Because midcarders don't get main event gimmick matches.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

You'd think they'd use a ladder match, as well, given their respective histories. You could book it for the 6th year anniversary of their No Mercy match.

[goldengreek 0]

This might be the worst lineup (card) i have seen for a pay-per view in a long ass time. show/snitsky , hbk/masters, flair/carlito ?????? Give me a break!!! They want us to pay for this crap????

[goldengreek 0]

For the most part, each PPV this year had something to make me go "mmm, that's appealing" and some were enough to hook me into buying the PPV...

 

This show just may be the most unappealing show i've seen in quite some time.

 

John Cena Vs Angle is hardly a fresh match and while they have a couple good matches before, it's not going to be much different and the likely presence of Bischoff only stands to make it worst.

 

John Cena over Kurt Angle @ 26:21. ***1/2.

 

HBK/Masters.  This is the real main event of the ppv and don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise because the last month has been the HBK/Masters showcase while Cena has been the mid-carder.  It's still up in the air what exactly occurs here, They clearly want to push Masters despite his complete inability to get over yet It's Shawn here coming off a lost to Hogan. Shawn can never lose his heat but that doesn't mean he should job left and right...Shawn has nothing to gain from a win but nothing to lose from a lost. Masters has nothing to gain because he's not getting over and losing to Shawn is hardly a negative thing but he's doomed either way.  Why waste a job on Masters?

 

HBK @ 16:17. **

 

Flair/Carlito's only promise was the promo wars and that was a complete bust as well. The match will likely be hot because Flair can draw great babyface heat and Carlito is decent enough in being a dick heel. The match will blow ass but perhaps a semi-hot crowd could motivate these two and create the image that this match meant something.  Flair doesn't need the title and would set the title back even further in credibility (if that's possible). Which said, Flair is probably going over here for no apparent reason.

 

Carlito over Flair @ 10:02. *3/4

 

TBS/Snitsky? Pass.

 

Snitsky via DQ over TBS @ 4:35

 

Matt Hardy/Edge? Not convinced this is the blowoff to the most disapointing angle in years, It'll be another brawl just like the over-rated brawl they had on raw a few weeks ago and It'll be nothing special. I'd expect them to juice to beef up the "intensity".  They would be wise to watch Blanchard/Magnum before the match and witness how to work a hate match inside the cage...

 

Double Knockout @ 14:59. ***1/4

 

Superheroes and Cade/Murdoch? How sad is this division? 

 

Cade/Murdoch @ 8:59. *1/2

 

Shelton Benjamin Vs Kerwin White? Cheers for Benjamin getting a spot on PPV again, jeers for this match. Could be a decent match if Chavwin has his working boots. However, I predict this will be a lame comedy match resulting in a DQ finish or cheap heel win.

 

Benjamin @ 7:17. **1/4

 

Trish & Ashley vs. Victoria & Torrie? What great quality this will be.  Trish/Victoria have good chemistry together and that might save this match but not by much.

 

Trish/Ashley @ 6:55. *

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Un-apealing... understatement of the year!

[CanadianChick 0]

You'd think they'd use a ladder match, as well, given their respective histories.  You could book it for the 6th year anniversary of their No Mercy match.

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In case you haven't noticed Rudo, the only "history" between these two now is that Edge was Matt's friend and he fucked Lita. Never mind the tag team history that cemented both of them as WWE mainstays. And I'm not even saying it to be funny. They just won't mention it because it was too long ago. Hell, they never even mentioned that Edge and Christian were brothers back when both of them were teaming together on Raw this year. Why would they mention this?

[goldengreek 0]

Quick predictions, its gonna be a heel night:

Winners: angle,carlito,masters,cade-murdoch. benjamin,hardy,trish-ashley.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Heat Match:

 

Tajiri vs. Conway.

[Guest *KNK*]

Often times, a slight hint of curiosity hits me just 1/2 hour before a show starts and i think "Should I order?"...

 

This time? Im more interested in the fucking emmy's then what WWE has to offer as entertainment.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

I've ordered.

 

But then again, I made it a goal to order every WWE PPV event this year, including ECW ONS.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Hmm..question...

 

If Flair wins, will the Cabana be replaced by "A Flair For The Gold"?

[Guest Askewniverse]

I've ordered.

 

But then again, I made it a goal to order every WWE PPV event this year, including ECW ONS.

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Why not just flush your money down the toilet? It would be faster and a lot less painful.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

I've ordered.

 

But then again, I made it a goal to order every WWE PPV event this year, including ECW ONS.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Why not just flush your money down the toilet? It would be faster and a lot less painful.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

If I wanted to do that, I'd gamble in Atlantic City.

 

This at least I know what is going on.

 

Besides, I always find SOMETHING to enjoy from PPVs.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

That's what the DVD's are for.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

That's what the DVD's are for.

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OK.

 

Plus, the fact that I do Play by Play for friends of mine.