This Week in College Football 9/21 - 9/24

[CanadianChris 0]

Make it an at large?

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Bingo.

[cabbageboy 0]

No way Boise should have gotten a BCS bid over U of L last year. I mean yeah I know they were 11-0 till the bowl game but U of L beat them in the Liberty Bowl.

 

But Cal? Yeah they got dicked.

[Damaramu 0]

I'm tired of hearing about how Cal got screwed.

Ok first of all everyone screamed and cried about how the human element needs to be brought into the game because USC was left out of the title game b/c the computers put Oklahoma and LSU into the game.

So the human element is given more weight b/c everyone cried as loud as they could about how unfair the computers were and then the humans gave the BCS bowl to Texas and not Cal.

So everyone screams and cries again. Everyone is going to have something to bitch about in college football. And it's sad.

 

Oh and Cal got screwed. Yeah well they should've proven they deserve to be there by going out and beating Texas Tech. Instead they got absolutely rolled by Texas Tech and Texas went out and beat Michigan and then turned around and proved it wasn't a fluke this year by winning in the Horseshoe.

So as the games have proven.....Cal was not screwed and Texas deserved it over them.

[BruiserKC 0]

First, Iowa...then the BS (missing a letter on purpose).

 

That game sucked...and after the game both Tate and Ferentz went into near-meltdown in the post-game media blood-letting. Not to mention Tate's little temper tantrum during the game should have gotten his ass yanked and put on the bench to pout. This team looks like a far cry from the team people were expecting to contend for the national championship.

 

As for the BCS...eventually we have to have a playoff system. It makes sense to let all teams in college football have a shot. The problem is the bowls, the conferences, the chambers of commerce that run the bowls...they don't want to give up all the money they make off the bowl games. A playoff means more money for the NCAA. Hell...it could make more money than March Madness or the Super Bowl could ever make.

 

This thing about not letting the playoffs go into January and shit is BS. They play the bowl games on New Year's Day and beyond, meaning the kids stay in practice through the end of the fall semester. 1-AA does an 11-game schedule and a 16-team playoff, done before Christmas. And the NCAA just Ok'd a 12th game to be added to the schedule...that also takes away from study time? But they don't think about that, it's all about the Benjamins.

[Damaramu 0]

I wish everyone would quit bitching about a playoff. Yes we all know it's the better solution but guys it's not going to happen. It's been 100 years and we still don't have one and they've proven despite everything that they will not have one.

So when someone asks for a solution to the BCS problem don't say "playoff" because chances are that person is already thinking that and has ruled it out b/c they've proven they will not go that route.

Maybe if USC just got screwed out of the title this year somehow like they were in 2003 because they've become everyone's favorite media darling and nobody dares say an unkind word about them on TV. So maybe a team like that getting screwed would work out but honestly...it's doubtful that we'll see a playoff soon despite everything.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

LOL the fact you seem to think Texas is for real is amusing to say the least. Texas will lose before USC does.

[Damaramu 0]

Who on the schedule for Texas will beat them? Before the season everyone thought the only team with a chance was OU and they suck this year! A&M? They haven't looked too impressive either. Tech? They're the only ones with a realistic chance of taking Texas out.

 

I'm not saying USC isn't for real b/c I think they are very much the #1 team in the country. I just hate listening to ESPN suck dick constantly.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

You should know by now I'm not everyone. I actually *gasp* evaluate the personnel before making decisions. Texas is NOT built to be a championship-bound team. They might win the Big XII but in no way will that constitute a title berth.

[Damaramu 0]

You should know by now I'm not everyone. I actually *gasp* evaluate the personnel before making decisions. Texas is NOT built to be a championship-bound team. They might win the Big XII but in no way will that constitute a title berth.

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If they run the table then they will remain #2 and recieve the bid to play in the National Title game.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

That's my fucking point. They're not going to run the table. Sorry. Wait a second, you should be HAPPY that I said that.

[Urban Warfare 0]

AP Poll:

 

1. Southern Cal (59)

2. Texas (6)

3. Virginia Tech

4. LSU

5. Florida

6. Florida St.

7. Georgia

8. Ohio St.

9. Miami

10. Tennessee

11. Michigan St.

12. California

13. Notre Dame

14. Arizona St.

15. Alabama

16. Texas Tech

17. Wisconsin

18. Minnesota

19. Virginia

20. UCLA

21. Boston College

22. Purdue

23. Iowa St.

24. Louisville

25. Georgia Tech

[CanadianChris 0]

You should know by now I'm not everyone. I actually *gasp* evaluate the personnel before making decisions. Texas is NOT built to be a championship-bound team. They might win the Big XII but in no way will that constitute a title berth.

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If they run the table then they will remain #2 and recieve the bid to play in the National Title game.

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That's not a given either, with how well Virginia Tech is playing. If they go undefeated, I can't see how you would take Texas over them, given Va Tech is in the ACC and Texas is in a down Big XII.

[Bored 0]

I don't understand why the polls couldn't be bothered to wait until Tuesday especially with two Top 10 teams playing on Monday. It'd be one thing if both Tennessee and LSU had off weeks but both play Saturday as well.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Not-particularly bold prediction: Virginia Tech will lose 3 regular season games.

[Urban Warfare 0]

In the Coaches' Poll, Virginia Tech gets a #1 vote with USC getting 60, and Texas getting the other one.

[iggymcfly 0]

Dama, your generalizations are really annoying. "Everyone" didn't complain about USC gettting screwed out of the title. From when the BCS title game was first announced, through the entire offseason, I maintained that USC didn't deserve to get into the title game, and that LSU was the rightful champion.

 

Secondly, I didn't say that Cal got screwed by Texas (although they did play better in the regular season.) I said they got screwed by Pitt. We were discussing how the Big East no longer deserves an automatic BCS bid, and how teams like Cal, Boise, and Louisville should have filled out the Fiesta Bowl in favor of a 7-4 Pitt team.

 

And also, the idea that college football will never have a playoff is silly. There are millions and millions of dollars just sitting on the table that the NCAA could have if they set up a playoff properly, and eventually they're going to fix it. You can say that it's been 100 years with no playoff, but that doesn't change the fact that there's been tons of movement to determine a fairer national champion in the last 15 years.

 

Before 1992, there was no attempt whatsoever to have a real #1 vs. #2 championship game. The teams merely played through the regular season, played their bowl games based on conference ties, ans that was that. Then the Bowl coalition came together where a few major bowls offered to try and trade teams if it would make a #1 vs. #2 championship, but only if their own personal goals weren't compromised. For instance, the Big 8 champion and SEC Champion could not play each other in a bowl game. Then, in 1995, the Bowl Alliance was formed whereby the top two teams in the country would be pitted against each other no matter what, unless they were from the Big Ten or Pac Ten. Then, after the split championship between Michigan and Nebraska in 1997, the Rose Bowl came aboard as well, forming the BCS, whereby the top two teams would play for the national title, regardless of conference affiliation.

 

Given that the system has changed three times over the last 15 years, and the college presidents narrowly shot down a vote to add a championship game after the bowls before the Auburn controversy, there's no reason to think that the system won't change somewhat in the near future. If another undefeated team does get left out, and college football fans do keep bitching, eventually some sort of a playoff will take place. Maybe it will be a four team playoff in 2012, and then become an eight team playoff in 2030, but eventually, change will come.

[ANKLELOCK 0]

VaTech and USC > Texas

[Damaramu 0]

You should know by now I'm not everyone. I actually *gasp* evaluate the personnel before making decisions. Texas is NOT built to be a championship-bound team. They might win the Big XII but in no way will that constitute a title berth.

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If they run the table then they will remain #2 and recieve the bid to play in the National Title game.

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That's not a given either, with how well Virginia Tech is playing. If they go undefeated, I can't see how you would take Texas over them, given Va Tech is in the ACC and Texas is in a down Big XII.

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Yeah but with Texas beating tOSU in Columbus and then they're probably going to go out there and roll through the Big XII(which does have some Top 25 teams) means that Texas will probably remain #2.

Yes the Big XII is down this year but seriously....I try not to listen to this board about the Big XII b/c well it's a pretty anti-Big XII board. If we listened to the board then every team in the Big XII has never been good in their history and only win by facing weak opponents.

Now I agree that the Big XII is down this year but even if they were all world beaters this board would still be down on them.

[Bored 0]

Oh for Christ's sake you know you've been OK so far this season on the board but don't try pull this you against the world crap again. This anit-Big XII thing is all in your fucking head and you bring it upon yourself. Just stop it.

 

On a completely different subject I've looked all over the place for this new Harris Poll that's supposed to come out today but no sign of it. Maybe they are waiting until Tuesday.

[Damaramu 0]

No this board has had a history of disliking the Big XII and every team from it in just about every sport. So kiss my ass Bored.

[CanadianChris 0]

No this board has had a history of disliking the Big XII and every team from it in just about every sport. So kiss my ass Bored.

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OK, who had four weeks in the pool?

 

As an aside, I must admit to a deep-seeded resentment toward Big XII men's volleyball.

[iggymcfly 0]

You should know by now I'm not everyone. I actually *gasp* evaluate the personnel before making decisions. Texas is NOT built to be a championship-bound team. They might win the Big XII but in no way will that constitute a title berth.

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If they run the table then they will remain #2 and recieve the bid to play in the National Title game.

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That's not a given either, with how well Virginia Tech is playing. If they go undefeated, I can't see how you would take Texas over them, given Va Tech is in the ACC and Texas is in a down Big XII.

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Yeah but with Texas beating tOSU in Columbus and then they're probably going to go out there and roll through the Big XII(which does have some Top 25 teams) means that Texas will probably remain #2.

Yes the Big XII is down this year but seriously....I try not to listen to this board about the Big XII b/c well it's a pretty anti-Big XII board. If we listened to the board then every team in the Big XII has never been good in their history and only win by facing weak opponents.

Now I agree that the Big XII is down this year but even if they were all world beaters this board would still be down on them.

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Wow, what a surprise. Damaramu follows up stupid generalizations with...........stupid generalizations. I have nothing against the Big XII at all. Two years ago, I was saying how Oklahoma and LSU deserved to be in the title game over USC because the Pac Ten was the worst major conference in college football. Then, the Cougars beat the Longhorns in the Holiday Bowl and I started to rethink things a little bit. Lo and behold, the Big XII does terrible the next year with no team in the North reasonably in the Top 50, and the South getting fat on the basis of the three free wins they got off them through the course of the season.

 

After seeing how they compared to the newly improved Pac-Ten, I hypothesized that Oklahoma wouldn't be able to play with USC, and they proved me right losing by about 40 points. All of a sudden, the Big XII looks to be down going into this year, but I don't get impatient, I wait for results. Well, the results I get are as follows: Oklahoma, the supposed second best team in the conference loses to TCU and UCLA, and almost loses to Tulsa. Texas A&M, the supposed third best team, loses to a Clemson team that looks worse each week, and is currently 2-2. Texas still looks like one of the top teams in the country, but they won't play another Top 18 team for the rest of the year.

 

Given that Virginia Tech and USC already look more impressive than Texas, it kind of seems like bullshit that the Hokies are likely to get screwed out of the title game unless USC picks up a loss, even though they beat (what was) a Top 15 team last week by 44 points, and they still have two games remaining against Top 12 teams. The fact is that the Big XII looks to be the worst it's been in it's history with one legitimate team (Texas), one team that looks kinda good, but whose only I-A non-conference game was at home against Florida International, and a bunch of teams that look like shit.

 

The reason people rail against the Big XII is that it sucks, it's overrated champion screwed an undefeated team out of their chance at the title last year, and it looks like the same thing might happen again this year.

[Damaramu 0]

Hey I'm just saying that people on this board never really have a kind word to say about the Big XII or it's teams. I'm sure if this place was here in 2000 when the Big XII had tons of ranked teams people would still be bashing them.

I think that if Texas continues on the path they are on and blows through the Big XII then they will remain #2. That win against tOSU in Columbus gives them a lot of leverage in the polls.

HOWEVER I think that if VA Tech takes on a highly ranked FSU team in the ACC title game and they beat them up pretty good then they will surpass Texas.

But fuck Florida could come up and take the #2 spot. Hell USC could lose and we could have VA Tech/Texas/Florida all fighting for who plays each other in the National Title game.

It's all up in the air still at this point.

[The Czech Republic 0]

No this board has had a history of disliking the Big XII and every team from it in just about every sport. So kiss my ass Bored.

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OK, who had four weeks in the pool?

 

As an aside, I must admit to a deep-seeded resentment toward Big XII men's volleyball.

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I've been out to get their field hockey since I came out of the womb.

[Damaramu 0]

The reason people rail against the Big XII is that it sucks, it's overrated champion screwed an undefeated team out of their chance at the title last year, and it looks like the same thing might happen again this year.

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Yeah but the way most people on this board act is that the Big XII has never been good and isn't deserving of an automatic bid and all of their national champions are a sham. I've been on other boards where people feel the same way about the Big XII. It gets more consistent venom than any other conference.

[The Czech Republic 0]

I've been on other boards where people feel the same way about the Big XII. It gets more consistent venom than any other conference.

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It's because of you

[Damaramu 0]

I've been on other boards where people feel the same way about the Big XII. It gets more consistent venom than any other conference.

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It's because of you

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Boards where I don't post.

[The Czech Republic 0]

I've been on other boards where people feel the same way about the Big XII. It gets more consistent venom than any other conference.

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It's because of you

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Boards where I don't post.

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They sense it.

[Damaramu 0]

I've been on other boards where people feel the same way about the Big XII. It gets more consistent venom than any other conference.

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It's because of you

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Boards where I don't post.

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They sense it.

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Yes I'm sure all internet posters have that sixth sense.

Anyway I think it's too early to talk about who's going to get screwed. I mean a lot of people thought Louisville would be screwed and they just got pounded. Any one of these contenders could lay an egg and be out of it. We'll know more towards the end of the season. I mean it appeared Wisconsin would be one of the undefeated teams last season then they lost like their last 3. So who knows what will happen. I do think VA Tech will remain undefeated though. As a matter of fact I'll go as far as to say out of all the teams in the country they have the BEST shot at being undefeated.

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

Frankly I'd agree with Dama here, and I'm not a fan of any Big 12 team. People take shots at the Big 12 every chance they get and exagerrate how bad the teams are. I've also seen people defend some way shittier Pac-10 conferences in the past.