Brett Favre Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 I'm not saying you have to hate your crosstown rival, all i'm saying is having more than one favorite team is stupid, and that's how bandwagoners come about. You won't give a damn about the other team when they suck ass, while the OTHER team is having a great season. It's just not good.
Slayer Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 I think it's okay to have two favorite teams as long as they're fairly mutually exclusive (i.e. not division rivals), like I have the Reds (grew up as fan) and Red Sox (he-who-shall-not-be-mentioned got me into Boston sports back in '98) You won't give a damn about the other team when they suck ass, while the OTHER team is having a great season. It's just not good. But then at least you have more going for you than if you have just one team
USC Wuz Robbed! Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 Cena's Writer, just to clear it up, I wasn't referring to you when I said it didn't matter. I was referring to those "OH YOU CAN'T LIKE TWO TEAMS BECUZ THEY'RE DA NATURAL RIVALS!" Hate to break it to you guys, but White Sox and the Cubs are not natural rivals. They both either suck, or one team has a good year and the other team sucks.
Boon Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 You can like more then one team if they share mutual interests- Sort of like that lame ass "I like two teams, the Red Sox and whoever beats the Yankees" line. The Sox are my #1, but if I had to pick a #2, it'd be the Mets, b/c they hate the Yankees, too, and I still <3 Pedro.
The Czech Republic Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 Hate to break it to you guys, but White Sox and the Cubs are not natural rivals. You've been away from the area too long. Cubs-White Sox discussions are less than civil. And seeing as the Cubs are seemingly the only road team that draws at Comiskey, they've gotta count for something. I'd say the Cardinals and Astros are the primary rivals for the Cubs, with the White Sox #3. (I'd rather see the Brewers be our #2 rival and let the Astros go fuck themselves in fifth place, but such is life.) To hear some White Sox fans, you'd think the Cubs were the main rival above the Twins and other AL teams.
Guest Brian Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 Sort of like that lame ass "I like two teams, the Red Sox and whoever beats the Yankees" line. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The correct answer is "I have a favorite team (or two), and I cheer for whoever is playing against the Yankees." Because once they're beat, no one really cares much for the other team. But when they're up against the Yanks, rah rah and all that other stuff. I've always grown up as a White Sox and Giants fan.
USC Wuz Robbed! Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 Hate to break it to you guys, but White Sox and the Cubs are not natural rivals. You've been away from the area too long. Cubs-White Sox discussions are less than civil. And seeing as the Cubs are seemingly the only road team that draws at Comiskey, they've gotta count for something. I'd say the Cardinals and Astros are the primary rivals for the Cubs, with the White Sox #3. (I'd rather see the Brewers be our #2 rival and let the Astros go fuck themselves in fifth place, but such is life.) To hear some White Sox fans, you'd think the Cubs were the main rival above the Twins and other AL teams. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Really? It got that serious? As for the Cubs drawing in Comiskey...well it's easy for Cubs fans to make the 20-60 minute drive to Comiskey to watch the Cubs play there. I would think the White Sox's main rivals were the Twins and Indians, with the Cubs at #3.
The Czech Republic Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 White Sox fans were cheering like they won it all when the Marlins won the pennant. I know I've had a good row or two with White Sox fans. But really, it just seems like a lot of Sox fans care more about beating the Cubs than the Twins. That's what I see.
Vern Gagne Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 I don't think rivalries have the same umph like they use to. Hit a batter, the umpire warns both teams. Team can't retaliate or their pitcher and manager are tossed. I say let the teams fight if they want to.
Boon Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 Sort of like that lame ass "I like two teams, the Red Sox and whoever beats the Yankees" line. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The correct answer is "I have a favorite team (or two), and I cheer for whoever is playing against the Yankees." Because once they're beat, no one really cares much for the other team. But when they're up against the Yanks, rah rah and all that other stuff. I've always grown up as a White Sox and Giants fan. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks for the English lesson- I'll go tell all those people that are making the t-shirts and bumper stickers that their slogan (that I already said I think is stupid) is also inaccurate.
Guest Brian Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 There's shirts and bumper stickers like that? Shit, I didn't know that.
devo Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 Very prominent around here. "I cheer for two teams, OSU and whoever's playing Michigan." It's like goddamn mantra in this city.
Guest I miss Test. Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 People here root for all the college teams in the Buffalo area. Because they all suck at every sport, and it's rare that 1 of the 4 are successful.
JJ Johnson Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 Very prominent around here. "I cheer for two teams, OSU and whoever's playing Michigan." It's like goddamn mantra in this city. That and "Ann Arbor is a whore."
Guest Fishyswa Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 I think dislike for a team naturally comes from them doing better than your team, so in the case of a team like the Met's, Yankee fans aren't exactly nervous that they'll become a better team or more popular. That's why it's easy to casually follow them, you can be indifferent when they actually do better because there's no feeling it'll last or grow. Might be different elsewhere but I'd say that's how it works here. I still razz my friends who are Met fans, but I'm not gonna be cheering on the other team when 99% of the time it's totally inconsequential to what's happening with the Yanks.
The Czech Republic Posted October 7, 2005 Report Posted October 7, 2005 Golf: it's bigger than the Red Sox!
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted October 7, 2005 Author Report Posted October 7, 2005 Since Chris Berman mentioned it, many arguments for Ortiz's MVP candidacy state that 20 of Ortiz's homers either tied the game or put the Red Sox in the league. I went through the game logs and discovered that Alex Rodriguez hit 19 home runs that either tied the game or put the Yankees in the lead.
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted October 7, 2005 Author Report Posted October 7, 2005 Somewhere, Bill James is cursing the Red Sox for resorting to this lefty/right crap. There was no one on base in the sixth for god sakes!
Damaramu Posted October 7, 2005 Report Posted October 7, 2005 Damn Red Sox pitching....if they SOMEHOW come back and win this series they won't make it very far. I hope they address this in the offseason.
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted October 7, 2005 Author Report Posted October 7, 2005 Damn Red Sox pitching....if they SOMEHOW come back and win this series they won't make it very far. I hope they address this in the offseason. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They're not going to address this problem. I have inside sources that indicate they are going to hide under their desks for a month and hope it goes away.
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted October 7, 2005 Author Report Posted October 7, 2005 Meanwhile, the Red Sox are initiating every boring defensive tactic they can unveil.
Guest TheDon Posted October 7, 2005 Report Posted October 7, 2005 Since Chris Berman mentioned it, many arguments for Ortiz's MVP candidacy state that 20 of Ortiz's homers either tied the game or put the Red Sox in the league. I went through the game logs and discovered that Alex Rodriguez hit 19 home runs that either tied the game or put the Yankees in the lead. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Al dont you know there is an ESPN bias for Ortiz. If Espn played a fair amount of clips for Ortiz as well as Arod there wouldn't be any debate. Big homerun for Konerko especially since Ortiz just missed a 3 run homerun. Other than trade I dont know how Boston plans on improving their starting pitching. Who is even available via free agency. AJ Burnett?
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted October 7, 2005 Author Report Posted October 7, 2005 I'm working on some basic free agent pitcher listings.
KingPK Posted October 7, 2005 Report Posted October 7, 2005 Geez, they finally hit some out, but no one is on base. Granted, this Manny homer led off the inning, but they have made a habit of hitting more solo shots lately.
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted October 7, 2005 Author Report Posted October 7, 2005 Since Chris Berman mentioned it, many arguments for Ortiz's MVP candidacy state that 20 of Ortiz's homers either tied the game or put the Red Sox in the league. I went through the game logs and discovered that Alex Rodriguez hit 19 home runs that either tied the game or put the Yankees in the lead. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Al dont you know there is an ESPN bias for Ortiz. If Espn played a fair amount of clips for Ortiz as well as Arod there wouldn't be any debate. Big homerun for Konerko especially since Ortiz just missed a 3 run homerun. Other than trade I dont know how Boston plans on improving their starting pitching. Who is even available via free agency. AJ Burnett? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I did a quick top ten. I used win shares to credit three for this year, two for last year and one for 2003. This puts weight on this year but also gives consideration to past performance, thus avoiding putting too much emphasis on flukes. 1. Roger Clemens 2. Kenny Rogers 3. Jarrod Washburn 4. Jamie Moyer 5. Jeff Weaver 6. Kevin Millwood 7. Paul Byrd 8. A.J. Burnett 9. Jason Johnson 10. Brett Tomko
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted October 7, 2005 Author Report Posted October 7, 2005 Mound conferences, countless pickoff attempts, batter calling for time, multiple pitching changes, ugh. Stop fucking around and just play baseball.
KingPK Posted October 7, 2005 Report Posted October 7, 2005 Unbelievable. Not a damned run. Good pitching always beats good hitting in the playoffs.
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