Eddie/Batista

[Guest Rrrsh]

I know SD is not watched by a lot. And I also know that in the first two weeks, this Batista/Eddie fued looked like Dog Shit. However, this fued actually got real good real quick. If they continue with this, we could have a wicked fued ending at Survivor Series, or even Armagetton.

 

Thoughts on this fued and its future?

[TheFranchise 0]

Yeah, the future of this fued is at No Mercy.

 

That'll be it, i'm pretty sure, unless there's some VERY bad ending to it, there's nothing to me that says they'll continue it.

[Guest FromBeyondTheGrave]

I'm just going to copy and paste from another thread, of what I think of the fued.

 

Eddie has been great in this friendly fued. It's the underlying tension of when is Guerrero going to show his true colors, which is awesome. They will proberly have a pretty damn good match at No Mercy, with (I hope) Eddie taking Batista to the limit, but Batista *just* getting the better of Eddie. Which will make Eddie in the weeks leading to Survivor Series go back to the "old" Eddie, and lie, cheat, and steal in their rematch at Survivor Series.

 

Or they could have Eddie go full heel mode right off the bat at No Mercy, and then they could have the total blood/hate fued going into Survivor Series.

 

Either way, I've liked this fued. Guerrero's been awesome, and should get some good matches out of Batista.

[Guest FromBeyondTheGrave]

Yeah, the future of this fued is at No Mercy.

 

That'll be it, i'm pretty sure, unless there's some VERY bad ending to it, there's nothing to me that says they'll continue it.

They're having a rematch at Survivor Series.

[TheFranchise 0]

Oh, that's a shame.

 

Here's hoping Eddie wins one then.

[Aero 0]

As much as I'd love for Eddie to win the title again, there is no way they should take the belt off of Batista at this point, especially if they're likely going to just give it back at Survivor Series in a rematch.

 

I think the feud really picked up on last night's SD, and I'm looking forward to No Mercy.

[cabbageboy 0]

The end of this can't be just the No Mercy match. There's way too much here that is intriguing and besides, who else is seriously a contender at the moment? Smackdown has the worst heel side of a roster I've ever seen. Every one of their heels is a total joke, aside from maybe Ken Kennedy (who just debuted).

 

Whenever I read something like "WWE wants to push Orton to the title again" I am just bewildered. Take a look at the way he is depicted on TV, he and his dad getting their asses kicked by UT and even last night losing a handicapped match to...Roddy Piper?? Orton's like the redneck Chavo at this poing, relying on his dad to give him whatever heat he has.

[Black Lushus 0]

I'm telling you, Orton will turn on his dad and they'll have him eventually go over UT...the rumors out right now is that they're having a Buried Alive match at S. Series and you know UT doesn't do so well in those...that should make him look strong going into his fued with Batista...if you can't see the signs pointing to Orton beating Batista for the belt, I don't know what else to tell you...

[JoeDirt 0]

I think we see a Dusty finish at NM. Makes sense, especially with Dusty actually booking SD now, or helping to book it or whatever. Anyways, they just did the main event DQ finish last month with Cena/Angle, so I wouldn't expect to see that. Rematches are scheduled for them. I see Eddie cheating, frog splash, pin, Teddy comes out and restarts the match, Batista gets the pin.

 

On Smackdown, Teddy and Palmer Cannon argue about his decision to restart the match, a rematch is scheduled for Survivor Series.

[cabbageboy 0]

I'd personally be more offended at the Dusty Finish than I would a DQ. The last thing they need to do is start having a Dusty Finish all the time.

 

And yes, I know Orton is likely going to get the title at some point....but it's a total waste of time. To me, Orton is an ill fated experiment. He had his chance, they fucked it all up, time to move on.

[Dark Age 0]

And yes, I know Orton is likely going to get the title at some point....but it's a total waste of time. To me, Orton is an ill fated experiment. He had his chance, they fucked it all up, time to move on.

[Black Lushus 0]

I don't agree, I think once he turns on his dad and beats UT, he'll be stronger than ever...I've enjoyed Orton since he turned heel again...just my opinion, i guess...

[Guest Rrrsh]

Give Orton a serious Heel title run before you decide if he is a player. He is very over as a heel, always has been. Its the face run that made him look like shit.

[Team Angle Pusher 0]

What's with everybody saying Orton is already dead and he "had his time" and fucked it up. Bullshit. The guy has been in the WWE for what, maybe 3 years now. He's young, has the "look", can cut a good promo and he's really smooth in the ring. The dude has loads of potential, he's like the next big Heel in the WWE. I like him since he has gone to Smackdown!, he seems more relaxed and himself as a Heel.

[Guest Zarock]

I'm actually a very big defender of Orton as a heel. The Legend Killer gimmick is very cool to me, he has a good finisher (alright, so it's another Ace Crusher rip-off, but I think it looks good), he has good to great mic skills and good to great in-ring skills. As a face, he's bland, but he's really gold as a heel.

[cabbageboy 0]

I am not saying I hate Orton or anything, in fact he really inspires zero feelings one way or the other. And yes I know he's still young but you only get 1 chance to make a big impression in the main event scene. His first title run was such a debacle on so many levels that I don't think he'll ever really recover. Most of it wasn't really his fault, he was booked terribly. But after seeing 1. HHH squash him repeatedly. 2. UT own him at WM and making him look foolish most of the time since and 3. Batista squashing him the night after WM my attitude towards Orton is "Are you still here?"

[Aero 0]

The end of this can't be just the No Mercy match.  There's way too much here that is intriguing and besides, who else is seriously a contender at the moment?  Smackdown has the worst heel side of a roster I've ever seen.  Every one of their heels is a total joke, aside from maybe Ken Kennedy (who just debuted).

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With that said, Raw has one of the worst face sides of a roster I've ever seen right now, at least the way they're booking it. I'd say SD's heel side is decent right now. I think it all depends on how you perceive JBL: Either he's grown on you as a legit main eventer after a year, or he's still Blackjack Bradshaw. I can actually take him seriously, although he shouldn't get another World Title shot for a long time. Like you said, Eddie's getting his shot right now, and the feud should be extended beyond tommorrow's PPV. Randy Orton, once they get him away from Taker, could be great. He's already got the feud with Batista, so it's just a matter of time before it happens.

 

BTW, how you can say Kennedy isn't a joke is beyond me. Sure, I like him as much as most people on the board seem to. And, they seem to be building him up. But his whole gimmick is a joke... unique, but still a joke.

[BruiserKC 0]

And yes, I know Orton is likely going to get the title at some point....but it's a total waste of time. To me, Orton is an ill fated experiment. He had his chance, they fucked it all up, time to move on.

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Vince is going to give Orton a 2nd chance because he's his own experiment...Vince has designs on Orton being one of his franchise players in the future, whether we like it or not. And as a heel, Orton had serious rub it was the stupid face turn that made him out to be pathetic. He's still not recovered yet.

 

As for Guerrero-Batista...here's how I'd book it. Start the match being clean between both...as Batista holds the upper-hand with his 70 pound weight advantage, Guerrero begins cheating here and there. Nothing major but slowly trying to get an unfair edge.

 

At the end...Eddie tries to hit Batista with brass knuckles...Batista grabs them. Before this we have the gratuitous ref bump where the ref is out. The ref comes to just as Batista is holding the knucks and Guerrero pretends to be out. The ref calls for the bell and DQs the Animal. As Batista argues with the ref, Guerrero gets a chair and beats Batista senseless.

[Dark Age 0]

None of you understood what I meant when I quoted that post.

[TheFranchise 0]

Maybe you should add some text to the quote

[Guest I miss Test.]

Orton better get the title soon. I have aspirations of him passing HHH for most world titles.

[TheFranchise 0]

Orton better get the title soon.  I have aspirations of him passing HHH for most world titles.

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It'll be counter-productive, once H sees this happening, he'll be the one that Orton drops the belt to every time, therefore adding both reigns up.

[Dark Age 0]

Maybe you should add some text to the quote

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No. My point was in bold.

[Dark Age 0]

And yes, I know Orton is likely going to get the title at some point....but it's a total waste of time. To me, Orton is an ill fated experiment. He had his chance, they fucked it all up, time to move on.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

 

Vince is going to give Orton a 2nd chance because he's his own experiment...Vince has designs on Orton being one of his franchise players in the future, whether we like it or not. And as a heel, Orton had serious rub it was the stupid face turn that made him out to be pathetic. He's still not recovered yet.

 

As for Guerrero-Batista...here's how I'd book it. Start the match being clean between both...as Batista holds the upper-hand with his 70 pound weight advantage, Guerrero begins cheating here and there. Nothing major but slowly trying to get an unfair edge.

 

At the end...Eddie tries to hit Batista with brass knuckles...Batista grabs them. Before this we have the gratuitous ref bump where the ref is out. The ref comes to just as Batista is holding the knucks and Guerrero pretends to be out. The ref calls for the bell and DQs the Animal. As Batista argues with the ref, Guerrero gets a chair and beats Batista senseless.

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But having ANOTHER DQ in the main event would just be stupid.

[Team Angle Pusher 0]

I'm hoping for Eddie stays in his role and he beats Batista by cheating. Theodore Long comes out and he orders the match to restart and then Batista wins. On Smackdown! Eddie says he can't believe he isn't the World Champ. Batista comes out and he says Eddie cheated so it was the right thing to do but he forgives Eddie. They hug but suddenly Eddie pulls out brass knuckles and he knocks Batista down. Eddie bloodies Batista and he stands tall. Eddie is back in full Heel mode and it ends at Survivor Series with Batista beating Eddie in a good match.

[Dark Age 0]

But that would make Batista look like a huge tool for:

 

a) forgiving Eddie

and

b) actually being friends with Eddie, rather than just playing Eddie's game.

 

 

Question: Would it be such a bad move to have Eddie go over at SurSer and defend against Rey either at Armageddon or the Rumble? Maybe it's just me, but Eddie and Rey are the two guys that SD should be built around right now.

[cabbageboy 0]

I don't think you can really build around Rey, not in a world title situation anyway. He's simply too small, it's not feasible that he could hold the heavyweight title.

 

As far as Kennedy goes, he's a joker and amusing but he's not a JOKE. There's a difference there. At least he hasn't been jobbed out and buried the way most of the Smackdown heels have been.

 

With Orton, he's someone who I literally can't see myself caring about no matter what he does. That's how bad they fucked his career up last year in Sept. until WM. He could beat UT and I'd yawn. He could win the title from Batista and I'd yawn. He could beat up legends, turn on his dad, beat up stunt grannies....and still wouldn't have any heat.

 

I'll put it another way. If there was still a WCW then Orton would have been released and gone there after WM. He was buried that badly. Without any competition though he's still around and they still think they can seriously push him and have people care, but the crowd reaction is more of an apathetic "Are you still here?"

[Dark Age 0]

Man, screw that. Rey could so be champ, especially if he beat someone like Eddie, or Benoit, or Angle. I think it was Rudo who originally said this, but if they gave him a killer submission that he could lock on out of nowhere then you could buy him beating anyone.

[hyperchord24 0]

And yes, I know Orton is likely going to get the title at some point....but it's a total waste of time. To me, Orton is an ill fated experiment. He had his chance, they fucked it all up, time to move on.

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At the end...Eddie tries to hit Batista with brass knuckles...Batista grabs them. Before this we have the gratuitous ref bump where the ref is out. The ref comes to just as Batista is holding the knucks and Guerrero pretends to be out. The ref calls for the bell and DQs the Animal. As Batista argues with the ref, Guerrero gets a chair and beats Batista senseless.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The WWE needs you.

 

The angle would work well if you didn't have that tool Michael Cole yelling like a two-year old in the background "Batista, he's not your friend, he'll turn on you! Waaaaaaaaaaaa!" Seriously, the WWE needs to get rid of his sorry ass. Cole, way to mark out Eddie's "heel turn."

[Lil' Bitch 0]

I'm interested in seeing where Guerrero / Batista goes, the booking of the match tonight was great as it was similar to Piper / Hart from WM 8 where Piper was fighting himself whether to cheat or not. Storyline wise, it makes you wonder if Eddie really does care about his friendship with Batista since he chose not to cheat.

 

That's what I really about this feud since it is actually about respect, I haven't seen that for a long long time in a title match.