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Maybe I have to see HBK/Angle again, but I didn't get into it much upon first viewing. As for Rey/Eddie from Smackdown, you give that a pay-per-view build and a sense of closure to that part of their angle, and you get something that goes above ****.

 

If I'm using ratings that are consistent with every match I've seen, I'm going to vote for the last **** match being Benoit/Orton from the night after Summerslam. There might be something in late 2004 that I may be missing, but it's not coming to me.

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Well, since he said there were no ***** matches since 1996, plenty.

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They were referring to:

Considering that WWE hasn't had a ***** match since 1996, It's another short list of matches to hit **** and nothing in 2005 has touched **** yet, with Shawn/Angle WMXXI getting the low end of a ***1/2 rating.
Posted
They were referring to:

Considering that WWE hasn't had a ***** match since 1996, It's another short list of matches to hit **** and nothing in 2005 has touched **** yet, with Shawn/Angle WMXXI getting the low end of a ***1/2 rating.

 

Yes, WWE 2005 hasn't had any thing touching **** with Shawn/Angle getting ***1/2 from me(I was citing my PERSONAL rating for the match that is the consensus pick here) I was clearly stating that 2005 hasn't had a ****+ match from WWE.

 

If you followed up on that, you will see that acknowledged that Guerrero/Lesnar was the last **** offering from WWE.

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They were referring to:

Considering that WWE hasn't had a ***** match since 1996, It's another short list of matches to hit **** and nothing in 2005 has touched **** yet, with Shawn/Angle WMXXI getting the low end of a ***1/2 rating.

 

Yes, WWE 2005 hasn't had any thing touching **** with Shawn/Angle getting ***1/2 from me(I was citing my PERSONAL rating for the match that is the consensus pick here) I was clearly stating that 2005 hasn't had a ****+ match from WWE.

 

If you followed up on that, you will see that acknowledged that Guerrero/Lesnar was the last **** offering from WWE.

You were also pretty clearly stating that nothing since 1996 qualifies.

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They were referring to:

Considering that WWE hasn't had a ***** match since 1996, It's another short list of matches to hit **** and nothing in 2005 has touched **** yet, with Shawn/Angle WMXXI getting the low end of a ***1/2 rating.

 

Yes, WWE 2005 hasn't had any thing touching **** with Shawn/Angle getting ***1/2 from me(I was citing my PERSONAL rating for the match that is the consensus pick here) I was clearly stating that 2005 hasn't had a ****+ match from WWE.

 

If you followed up on that, you will see that acknowledged that Guerrero/Lesnar was the last **** offering from WWE.

You were also pretty clearly stating that nothing since 1996 qualifies.

 

I said nothing since 1996 has hit *****, and that it's a short list of matches to hit ****+ since then. It's not really that hard to figure out.

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And people have mentioned several matches since 1996 that do qualify.

 

Even less hard to figure out.

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The BEST matches in the past couple of years have been IMO:

 

Angle / Benoit RR 03

 

Guerrero / Lesnar NWO 04

 

HHH / HBK / Benoit WM XX

 

Benoit / Orton SS 04

 

Angle / Michaels WM XXI

 

Orton / Undertaker WM XXI

 

Benjamin / Michaels RAW

 

Cena / Layfield JD 05

 

Free feel to add.

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To directly address the first post, IN MY OPINION, there are a few matches from WWE 2005 that have reached a level of ****+. Now, I'm not really one to rate a match with stars or the like (damn if I get the difference between **** and ****1/4), but I might go that route from time to time. So from this year, ****+ matches (from the best one down):

 

HBK vs Angle from WM21, I'll give ****3/4. Not a five * classic for me but still MOTY IMO.

Money In The Bank, ****1/2

Cena vs JBL from JDay

HBK vs Angle II, from Vengeance

Shelton vs HBK, Gold Rush Tourney

Rey vs Eddie, from some SD! I can't remember

HHH vs Batista, from Vengeance

 

I have not seen Unforgiven and No Mercy yet. HBK vs Angle III wasn't really upt ot snuff compared to these others listed.

 

Now, addressing KNK's statement that there are no ***** matches in WWE since 1996, I could name a few that I feel deserve that rating and deserve to be named classics, like:

 

Taker vs HBK, HIAC

Bret vs Austin, WMXIII

HHH vs Cactus, Rumble 2000

Austin vs Rock, WMX-7

Benoit vs Angle, Rumble 2003

HHH vs Benoit vs HBK, WMXX

 

And I also feel there are quite a few others from that time period (1997-2004) that can be considered ****+, but I won't list any.

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