Rocky VI Officially Greenlit

[bob_barron 0]

I'd watch that

[Guest wildpegasus]

The previous fights are pretty much unmatched 5 star fights due to their excellent intensity, physcology and storytelling. Hopefully this fight will live up to all the other fights' reputations.

Have you ever spelled that word correctly? Psychology, not physcology.

 

You sound like a tool. Five star fights with intensity, psychology, and storytelling? They're movie scenes, not wrestling matches.

 

???? What's the point of this post other than some poor attempt to attack me?

[bob_barron 0]

wildpegasus is making me hate the Rocky movies.

 

Shut up.

[Guest wildpegasus]

wildpegasus is making me hate the Rocky movies.

 

Shut up.

 

Why? Because I'm pointing out one of the big attractions of the Rocky movies is how well put together the fights are? That is a big reason why the Rocky movies are as popular as they are. As wrestling fans, we should even be more appreciative of that fact.

 

If you don't think the Rocky fights are well put together than make a counter arguement. Don't put yourself over by attacking me for no reason.

[Guest Askewniverse]

The previous fights are pretty much unmatched 5 star fights due to their excellent intensity, physcology and storytelling. Hopefully this fight will live up to all the other fights' reputations.

Have you ever spelled that word correctly? Psychology, not physcology.

 

You sound like a tool. Five star fights with intensity, psychology, and storytelling? They're movie scenes, not wrestling matches.

 

???? What's the point of this post other than some poor attempt to attack me?

To teach you to correctly spell psychology. You use the word on a regular basis, yet you constantly spell it as "physcology."

 

 

If you don't think the Rocky fights are well put together than make a counter arguement. Don't put yourself over by attacking me for no reason.

The fights can be entertaining, but in the end, they're just movie scenes. You once criticized Kill Bill because the fights "lacked psychology and storytelling," "relied too much on highspots," and several other wrestling phrases.

 

Do you realize how idiotic it is to treat movie scenes as if they were pro wrestling matches? Rating a fight scene isn't too bad, but if you start to overanalyze and look for psychology in the fight, you come across as a complete tool.

 

"Put yourself over?" Please stop using pro wrestling phrases outside of the wrestling folders.

[Guest wildpegasus]

The previous fights are pretty much unmatched 5 star fights due to their excellent intensity, physcology and storytelling. Hopefully this fight will live up to all the other fights' reputations.

Have you ever spelled that word correctly? Psychology, not physcology.

 

You sound like a tool. Five star fights with intensity, psychology, and storytelling? They're movie scenes, not wrestling matches.

 

???? What's the point of this post other than some poor attempt to attack me?

To teach you to correctly spell psychology. You use the word on a regular basis, yet you constantly spell it as "physcology."

 

 

If you don't think the Rocky fights are well put together than make a counter arguement. Don't put yourself over by attacking me for no reason.

The fights can be entertaining, but in the end, they're just movie scenes. You once criticized Kill Bill because the fights "lacked psychology and storytelling," "relied too much on highspots," and several other wrestling phrases.

 

Do you realize how idiotic it is to treat movie scenes as if they were pro wrestling matches? Rating a fight scene isn't too bad, but if you start to overanalyze and look for psychology in the fight, you come across as a complete tool.

 

"Put yourself over?" Please stop using pro wrestling phrases outside of the wrestling folders.

 

Well yeah, that's why the Kill Bill fights will never be as memoarable as the Rocky fights or the famous fight in "They Live" for example.

What Rocky fight overanalyziation? How can someone be looking for physcology? The physcology BEING SO OBVIOUS is what's so great about the Rocky fights. The fights are all extremely well put together which is why many people look back at the fights so fondly. Do you think Stallone? puts the fight together randomly or somthing? The fights are designed to create emotion and I can't think of any movies that I've seen which do a better job at it.

[Guest BritishBruiser]

Have you ever spelled that word correctly? Psychology, not physcology.

 

You sound like a tool. Five star fights with intensity, psychology, and storytelling? They're movie scenes, not wrestling matches.

It's a bit sad that you’re going after someone for missing the 'h' in psychology. I'm going to say though, the psychology in Rocky movies is so straightforward, there isn't any analyzing involved; it's in your face - clear as day.

 

A fight scene in a movie and a pro wrestling match are the practically the same thing when you get down to it, they are both fake fights that are meant to look as genuine as possible while controlling the audience, so why can't someone judge them the same?

 

On all other boards I've come across, WP is a highly respected member so you should be treating him with more respect.

[C Dubya 04 0]

The Rocky fights are terrible IMO. In one of the fights Rocky gets hit 94 times in the face. IN ONE ROUND. I know you have to make boxing a little bit faster pace to keep the movies exciting, but give me a break. The fights are soooo over the top they get rediculous.

 

And I LOVE Rocky movies. But to say the fights scenes have physocology (sp inc.) is complete bullshit.

[Guest wildpegasus]

The Rocky fights are terrible IMO. In one of the fights Rocky gets hit 94 times in the face. IN ONE ROUND. I know you have to make boxing a little bit faster pace to keep the movies exciting, but give me a break. The fights are soooo over the top they get rediculous.

 

And I LOVE Rocky movies. But to say the fights scenes have physocology (sp inc.) is complete bullshit.

 

We really, really do need RRR back.

 

First off, it's Rocky. That's why he can take a million hits in the face. It's the WHOLE POINT OF THE MOVIE. Since when has a movie has ever been 100% realistic anyway? Never!

 

Secondly, every fight ever has physcology. Physcology is the WHY something is done. There's "good" and "bad" and whatever else physcology but to say something has no physcology is incorrect. There was reasons why people were standing up in the theatres and clapping at the end of the Rocky movies. There was a reason why Stallone (pretty sure it was Stallone) spent so,so much time making the fight scene what it was. I believed he choregraphed out every single punch.

 

Take the first movie for instance. This can be explained in pretty short detail but I might have to explain it in a little more detail since you apparantly believe there is no rhyme or reason to why the fight is laid out the way it is.

 

Apollo is the dominating champ. He's cocky, egotistical, charasmatic, arrogant, a terrific fighter and overconfident. Man, he'd make a great wrestler. He has tons of heart but his heart is starting to beat a little slower.

Rocky meanwhile is an underdog. Down on his luck with life having him cornered against the ropes he kind of feels like caving in. However, part of him refuses to do so. That part being his heart. That heart can be displyed in the ring but it is only beating fast at times. Other times it is almost dead. Rocky shows heart in the ring but he is not a skilled fighter. Later on when he gets the chance of a lifetime the heart springs back to life a great deal though life still does have him against the ropes a good deal as well.

 

Everything I just mentioned about Apollo and Rocky's charactors is displayed in their climatic fight. A fight that is so well put together that it has moved and inspired people for generations to this very day. Not only does the fight represent Apollo and Rocky's lives but the overall general structure has been used as proven physcology in wrestling for generations to get the crowd behind a match.

 

Beause Apollo is cocky, egotistical, charasmatic, arrogant, a terrific fighter and overconfident it obviously gives him a strong heel charactor. Because Rocky is a super underdog he is the face. Now in the first round because Rocky is unkown to the fans in the fictional story (but not to the fans watching as a movie) they need something to really get behind Rocky. However, Rocky can not do too much to Creed or else he loses his underdog lovability.

 

So it's a tricky path to venture on when making a fight but the Rocky movie pulls it off in a fantastic manner. Apollo who is overconfident beautifully falls prey to that when he makes a mistake by treating Rocky as a joke. Rocky takes advantage of that and knocks Creed down with one punch. What this does is A) shows that Rocky is not a joke B)displays to the audience that Rocky has a very hard punch which just plants an inkling of a seed in people's minds that "Hey, maybe, just maybe if the planets are aligned up correctly Rocky can pull this off C)wakes Creed up in the fight which in turn puts some more sympthany on Rocky D)Gives the audience something to talk about since I believe that was the first time Creed was never knocked down E)the knockdown punch stayed true to the spirit of the movie and further cemented Rocky and Creed's charactors which is very important -- Rocky once again takes advantage of a once in a lifetime opportunity and Creed falls down to his own arrogance F)Because Creed fell down to his own arrogance it keeps Rocky as an underdog for the fight which is ESSENTIAL for the fight to end up being as good as it turned out to be. If he was even going 30/70 with Creed and than scored a knockdown the whole fight would've been screwed up because Rocky's sympthany face heat becomes greatly diminished.

 

All that beautiful, terrific physcology from ONE punch. One freaking punch that not only engrosses the fictional audience in the movie but the audience members at home.

 

I can go on and on about how this fight is full of terrfic physcology that works seamlessly with the charactors of Apollo and Rocky while incorporating tried and true techniques of captivating an audience but I think you're starting to get the picture now.

 

5 ++++ stars.

[bob_barron 0]

In Rocky IV he gets knocked down about 9 times and takes repeated hits to the face from a guy with that much punching power.

 

WP is a highly respected member so you should be treating him with more respect.

 

Have you seen his posts outside the wrestling folder?

[Black Lushus 0]

On all other boards I've come across, WP is a highly respected member so you should be treating him with more respect.

 

Sooooo...what, does he magically hit the shits everytime he logs on here? I'd hate to see these other boards where he's such a paragon of posting excellence.

[Jericholic82 0]

In Rocky IV he gets knocked down about 9 times and takes repeated hits to the face from a guy with that much punching power.

 

yea, but isnt that why he has brain damage in rocky V? (well that and a whole career of getting hit in the head as much as Rocky did)actually if Apollo was killed by Drago, why did Rock survive the blows?

[Black Lushus 0]

In Rocky IV he gets knocked down about 9 times and takes repeated hits to the face from a guy with that much punching power.

 

yea, but isnt that why he has brain damage in rocky V? (well that and a whole career of getting hit in the head as much as Rocky did)actually if Apollo was killed by Drago, why did Rock survive the blows?

 

 

Apollo came out of retirement to fight Drago...Rocky was still active and was used to the punishment.

[C Dubya 04 0]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Rocky was retired too, and came back to avenge Apollo.

 

Oh, and WP, that's actually not as bad as I expected, but it's still a fake boxing match where a guy gets punched in the face 1000 times. Let's wipe the cum out of our shorts over it and think about that for a minute.

[Slayer 0]

On all other boards I've come across, WP is a highly respected member so you should be treating him with more respect.

So, in spite of the continual piles of shit he produces here, we should treat him with respect because he's the King of Shit Mountain on other boards?

 

Sooooo...what, does he magically hit the shits everytime he logs on here? I'd hate to see these other boards where he's such a paragon of posting excellence.

Maybe he posts on Crono's board

[bob_barron 0]

Rocky was semi-retired, as I don't think he had fought since he beat Clubber, but he still had the belt. (He had to vacate it to fight Drago since the fight wouldn't be sanctioned)

[Guest Askewniverse]

It's a bit sad that you’re going after someone for missing the 'h' in psychology.

Read wp's version of the word (physcology) again. Missing the "h" isn't his only problem. He has the "h" in there, but in the wrong place. The first syllable of wp's version would be pronounced "fizz."

 

Take a look at wp's long-winded post (post #99). Even after I pointed out the correct way to spell the word, he still spells it wrong.

 

 

On all other boards I've come across, WP is a highly respected member so you should be treating him with more respect.

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

 

 

Secondly, every fight ever has physcology. Physcology is the WHY something is done. There's "good" and "bad" and whatever else physcology but to say something has no physcology is incorrect.

Oh, really? Just of curiosity, what credentials do have in psychology? Anything of substance to counter my notion that you're talking out of your ass?

[Slayer 0]

Read wp's version of the word (physcology) again. Missing the "h" isn't his only problem. He has the "h" in there, but in the wrong place. The first syllable of wp's version would be pronounced "fizz."

Maybe he meant "physiology"

 

...yeah

[bobobrazil1984 0]

I can buy someone saying Rocky's fights don't have psychology if they're thinking about it in WRESTLING terms, but only in wrestling terms.

 

You'd have to be a retard to think there's no general storytelling and viewer psychology in the way the fights are laid out though. Like someone said there's a reason almost every punch is choreographed, hell there's a reason why its so exaggerated (he takes fifty punches and doesn't fall, etc)

[Guest wildpegasus]

Just watching the previews again and reading people's thougts on the net where it's seemngly gaining momentum

 

 

This is gonna be one of my favourite if not my favourite movie of all time. I've never ever been so excited for a movie ever. I'm going to be crying like a baby as soon as I see the first 10 seconds of this flick. I know I won't be the only one.

 

This'll be my first Rocky movie I ever saw in the theatres. I was alive for the rest of them but never got to see any in the theatres.

[C Dubya 04 0]

Quick question WP, did you like Rocky 5?

[bobobrazil1984 0]

err, crying at the first 10 seconds? c'mon that's a little much.

[Slayer 0]

That's almost Downhome-ian

[Guest wildpegasus]

Quick question WP, did you like Rocky 5?

 

Yes, but it was a letdown compared to the others. A good movie but not a classic.

 

At least it had some classic moments though. Every wrestling fan loved the drop toe hold. It was like a big screw you to all the people who said wrestling was fake. Today, at least some people realise that wrestlers get hurt in the ring and that they're atheletes but back than there were a lot of people who believed wrestling was beyone 100% fake.

 

"My ring's outside"

[Black Lushus 0]

dude SHUT UP

[Cheech Tremendous 0]

Let's look at a few facts here that everyone is overlooking in regards to "Rocky VI"

 

- Rocky IV and V killed this franchise. Actually IV killed it, and then V pissed on the grave. No one cares about Rocky anymore. IV has gained some cult following because it's so over the top, but let's not pretend that people were clamoring for another movie

 

-Sly Stallone is essentially a joke in Hollywood at this point, and is not a draw to any degree. He's resurrecting the Rocky and Rambo films because he has nothing left in him and he's trying to milk one more payday before his career is over

 

-The general populace doesn't give a shit. This is getting a "meh" reaction. No one is thinking this on the level of Star Wars, like WP suggested. It's got trainwreck appeal. Rocky was a fun series of movies about a short Italian, workingman's here who whips a bunch of black boxer's asses and nothing more.

 

And can we please refrain from using wrestling terminology outside of the wrestling folder. It's extremely dorky.

[Black Lushus 0]

And can we please refrain from using wrestling terminology outside of the wrestling folder. It's extremely dorky.

 

eh, it's not bad when used in small doses...after all, most of us are or used to be wrestling fans...but this guy is getting outta control with it...which is actually pretty par for the course.

[C Dubya 04 0]

IV was good in a it's so bad it's good kind of way. The "If you can change, and I can change, anyone can change" speech is the icing on the cake.

 

V was a steaming pile of shit.

[Guest wildpegasus]

dude SHUT UP

 

 

 

Stop harassing me and taking this thread off topic. I want to talk about my excitement for Rocky. If you or any other internet bullies (aren't you guys getting a little old to be bullies?) else have an issue with me than take it somewhere else. The HD discussion area or something. Just leave me alone and let me enjoy talking about the 6th installment of my favourite series of movies.

[C Dubya 04 0]

dude SHUT UP