Batista Interview/Chat

[CBright7831 0]

^ because i said that? funny...

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Goodbye, asshole.

[randomguy 0]

What, in particular don't you like, maybe we can agree or disagree with you, but saying something sucks does not contribute to a conversation very much.

 

Ha ha, ok you are right. I will be fair and say what I didn't like.

 

I saw part of last Saturday's show. When I tuned in there was a huge video package about some type of match where guys hang from ropes while trying to grab an X. (Or something like that) Then we cut to the present and there is a 3-ay "x-division" match about to start. Now, call me crazy but after seeing the *long* video about the X and the ropes I expected a match with ropes and an X. But it's just a normal match.

 

The three guys who were in the match - the only one I remember was the one wearing a purple (?) collar and looking like some S&M reject. The match itself I thought was pretty boring, just one random move after another. I'm not a big fan of 3 way matches in general, and I thought it was pretty par for the course. It's like a threesome, one participant is just left out for a while. In the end some random guys run in and fight or something and the S&M guy wins. (I think) I want to say it was Angel Aries (?) winning by Angel Wings (pedigree with arms pulled back farther - looks painful)

 

Next match is Abyss vs. some guy. Abyss looks to me to be a cross between Kane, Taker and Mankind. He isn't particularly big or imposing. I mean he's big, but he's not like Kane when he had his mask. During the match they promote the PPV about how these guys are going to be locked in separate rooms and not fed - wtf? And people say WWE has some bad writing. The match itself was pretty unspectacular, and his finisher was pretty weak especially for a big guy. I mean a sidewalk slam is a move I could do. (Or maybe not, but whatever) Big imposing monster needs a bigger finishing move.

 

After that I turned it off. The only other TNA I've seen was on TV maybe 6 months ago Scott Hall and Kevin Nash both wearing ponchos to try to cover up how out of shape they've gotten.

 

I've heard the X-division stuff is the best, but the match I saw wasn't interesting at all. One problem is that only the S&M guy had a recognizable look - I can't remember what the other 2 guys looked like *at all.* The match itself was 2 guys fight a bit, one gets knocked down allowing the other 2 guys to fight a bit, etc etc. The Abyss match was just boring, it was like a typical match involving Snitsky. Lots of slapping and chopping and such.

 

Also the ring is way too small. It looks kind of silly and sometimes when a guy is trying to run off the ropes it looks like he has to glance around and figure out the right angle first - it comes off as really unnatural.

 

I will probably give it another shot but it didn't impress at all. I suppose it was better than last week's RAW but I have no problem turning WWE off when it gets boring.

[Guest MikeSC]

"That AJ Styles doesn't know how to wrestle."

 

**Watches AJ Styles vs. LowKi from July 17th, 2002. Watches Batista vs. anybody.**

 

Hahaha...rriiiiiight...

 

Also, I'll have to reiterate:

If you've seen a full TNA show and aren't impressed? Hey, that's cool. It's definitely a different style, and Impact doesn't showcase the best work of the roster since they have to condense all of their matches into under 10 minutes to fit more than 2 on there. The PPVs usually have very good matches all throughout the card (save for those that we all know are going to be terrible, but it's the same with any promotion) with enough time to develop a flow to the match.

 

Mike:

The reason you're not treated with respect in the TNA folder is that you're CONSTANTLY being a prick about a lot of things. Most of your issues you know I agree with you on (Jarrett, the handling of the more over members of the roster that aren't X-Division, certain matches, etc.), but stop trying to just flat-out say "I'm right and you're wrong" all the time. It's all in the attitude and not in the content, man.

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Quite frankly, I respond to the way others respond to me. I've never been rude nor hostile towards you.

 

There are more than a few TNA zealots here who will take any criticism (such as, oh, Monty Brown giving horrible promos, having a horrible finisher, and being completely incapable of working a match and having his ring work regress since his TNA debut) and people will go apeshit.

 

Thus, I simply respond in kind.

 

Again, the whole "negative" thing ain't exactly a one-way street.

 

And unlike more than half of the zealots, I actually DISCUSS and EXPLAIN the problems, rather than sitting back and simply praising everything they do as being "even better than last week" --- this week's show was, but fuck, what couldn't be better than their previous two FSN level quality shows?

[reign 0]

Batista is not even close to AJ Styles in terms of workrate.  The fact that he has the audacity to criticize AJ's work is complete bullshit.

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To play devil's advocate there are still many many poeple out there who think TNA's X-Division is too off the wall to follow and over-pops the crowd...for years wrestling was move set and then a big move that popped the crowd but when I watch the X-Division stuff it does get a little repetitious even when there are so many different things being done..not to mention there are so many guys coming in doing crazy bumps and flips over and over that it does come off like a gymnastic competition and can -GASP- get boring....I'm in no way saying Styles is not not the bomb because he is f'n phenomenal but I would enjoy those matches more with some slowing down and by making those high impact move mean a little more....

[Guest Coffey]

To be honest, I'll never understand why TNA chose AJ Styles as their poster boy. I'm not all that impressed with him. He has a bad accent which hinders his already painfully average mic skills and he blows a lot of spots. Hell, even some of his signature spots, like the Moonsault Reverse DDT & The Pele Kick are CONSTANTLY botched. Don't get me wrong, he's better than Michael Shane or Amazing Red but I think TNA could've chose someone better. I'm assuming loyalty comes into play somewhere.

 

When TNA was getting big, people like Low Ki & Jerry Lynn shined. Low Ki is no longer with the company and I haven't seen Jerry Lynn in months. Granted Lynn can't talk either but he doesn't botch a lot of spots like Styles does. Hell, on the last episode of iMPACT! Styles botched the last spot of the night. That's not a good way to close out a show.

 

I'll never call Styles "phenominal." "Better than average" is what usually comes to mind.

[Guest MikeSC]

In the X Division, who is a better alternative than AJ? Jerry Lynn never was (I've seen a shitload of his work and people's affection for him never makes sense). Low Ki was my personal fave, but he left. Chris Daniels? Maybe, but he seldom pulls off spots with the "holy shit" factor TNA is clearly shooting for.

 

AJ is their best option right now. Does he blow spots? Some, yes. He is also probably the guy with the most upside potential in the company.

[Guest Coffey]

Jerry Lynn never was. Low Ki left. Chris Daniels? Maybe.

 

AJ is their best option right now. Does he blow spots? Yes. He is also probably the guy with the most upside potential in the company.

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I liked Jerry Lynn because he didn't botch a lot of spots. That means a lot of me, especially when dealing with Light-Heavyweights. That's why I'm such a big fan of James Gibson.

 

During Lynn's matches, although he wasn't the amazing worker people made him out to be (like during his matches in ECW with RVD, which were definitely overrated) at least the matches made sense and seemed to have a good flow. Lynn was a good bumper and all of his offense was believable. He was also good at trading reversals and having matches build on their previous encounters.

 

Low Ki was also my favorite and with Daniels & Styles around and rumors of Homicide coming in, maybe we'll see him back sometime?

 

AJ probably is the best option but that doesn't mean I have to like it. I'm just not real high on him. Maybe it's because he became the defacto posterboy, I don't know. I know that when I first started to watch TNA, during the weekly Wednesday PPV's, Styles didn't stand out to me like Lynn, Low Ki & The Flying Elvis' did. Hell, I think Toby Keith left me with a better lasting impression. I like Styles' finisher but I can't stand when he does the Spiral Tap. I liked his Climax match with Kaz but I haven't seen a lot that he's done in TNA that stands out to me.

 

I'm sure he does have a big upside. I'm sure a lot of people on the roster have a big upside. If that potential is ever reached though, that's another question.

[CheesalaIsGood 0]

Batista has a right to his opinion seeing as though he is and has been a worker. If all he has seen is a few clips (and really who knows what that amounts to) then he can speak negativly he thats how he feels about it. It may not be totally fair but it is what it is.

 

TNA regardless of your opinion does seem to be lacking something. Maybe it is the 6 sided ring who knows? But it is not like Batista painted with such a wide brush saying there was never a good match or anything worth watching on their show. He stated it wasn't his taste, and obviously so considering the way he wrestles. Thats fine with me. Plus TNA has alot of room to improve and grow before they reach that level they need to be competitive.

 

Another thing that I can't quite wrap my mind around is it seems like there are some folks here that in comparing TNA to WWE that the WWE isn't producing any good matches this year? Come on! There have been plenty of good matches from watchable to classic this year on both television and on PPV. Sure there has been plenty of crap, but when isn't there? It's not like 1995 bad, not by a longshot.

[Guest MikeSC]

Hell, clips can actually mask a wrestler's flaws.

 

RVD looks downright spectacular if all you see are clips. Watch him actually work a match and the wheels fall off.

[Black Lushus 0]

Hell, clips can actually mask a wrestler's flaws.

 

RVD looks downright spectacular if all you see are clips. Watch him actually work a match and the wheels fall off.

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SHHHHHHHHHH! quiet, you!, you're not supposed to hate on RVD here!

[pochorenella 0]

Batista has a right to his opinion seeing as though he is and has been a worker. If all he has seen is a few clips (and really who knows what that amounts to) then he can speak negativly he thats how he feels about it. It may not be totally fair but it is what it is.

 

TNA regardless of your opinion does seem to be lacking something. Maybe it is the 6 sided ring who knows? But it is not like Batista painted with such a wide brush saying there was never a good match or anything worth watching on their show. He stated it wasn't his taste, and obviously so considering the way he wrestles. Thats fine with me. Plus TNA has alot of room to improve and grow before they reach that level they need to be competitive.

 

Another thing that I can't quite wrap my mind around is it seems like there are some folks here that in comparing TNA to WWE that the WWE isn't producing any good matches this year? Come on! There have been plenty of good matches from watchable to classic this year on both television and on PPV. Sure there has been plenty of crap, but when isn't there? It's not like 1995 bad, not by a longshot.

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Agreed 100% on all points. Well put, Cheesala.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

This whole topic has kind of gotten off track.

[benoit4hor 0]

I'm willing to bet he has seen AJ Styles matches. He just didn't want to admit that he's watched TNA.

[Promoter 0]

Some of that interview seemed political to me. The burial of Copani. Yeah, he sucked so much that rumours were flying he was going to dethrone Batista. I'm sure that feud would have been better than that crappy JBL feud. JBL sucks and we all knew that. Batista ripping on him for HHH is possible. HHH was taking pothsots at him since earlier this year. The reason I'm saying all this is that his love for HHH is blinding. Of course, he has sucked as champion ever since HIAC so I understand. I just can't understand a guy ripping on other co-workers about passion and laziness when hardly has any charisma and skill himself. I'm saying this and I like Batista, but the truth is the truth(I mean look at smackdown's numbers for crying out loud and Cena's reign seems more legit as champion imo). He probably wants Brock because Brock was smackdown. It might be a trainwreck, but I wouldn't be surprised if fans started to back Lesnar especially if he got to his ring level of the Benoit feud. Maybe Eddie can help him become entertaining again.