haVoc 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 WWE.com: A lot of people on the Internet have always said they would love to have seen The Rock vs. Shawn Michaels. Is that a match you would have liked to have had? The Rock: I was never ever interested in working with him, to be honest with you. I’ve known him for a long time. He came in and worked for my family in Hawaii when I was like 13 – him and Marty Jannetty. It was just one of those things. He was always one of those guys that I said “Hey” to and he said “Hey” – it’s no big deal. Credit:WWE.com To read the full interview click Here Wasn't there heat between these two back around 99/2000? I rememeber HBK dodging that question as well during his RF Shoot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 I guess we can finally knock the 'Michaels-Rock' dream match off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 Maybe Rocky's worried that Shawn might be the only one on the roster that could upstage him. And the other way around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CheesalaIsGood 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 Overall this kinda sucks. I would really like to see the two have a match at some point. You could at least assume that the two would be able to pull together a **** match at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 Wasn't there heat between these two back around 99/2000? I rememeber HBK dodging that question as well during his RF Shoot. I remember reading something about HBK and HHH working to sabotage Rock early in his career (I vaguely remember a rumor about them lobbying to have him job the I-C belt to Bret or something like that), plus there was that promo back in 02 where HBK took a cheap shot at Rock out of the blue ("...just like the Rock is jealous of Hunter"), so there could be some kinda heat between these two. Anyway, I wouldn't rule out a match between these two. There's a poll on WWE.com asking whether or not people would wanna see HBK vs the Rock, and as you can imagine most people voted yes. This could all be a work to get people interested in a match between the two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 If it does ever happen, I'd like to see them both working in heel mode and let the live crowds decide which one they want to get behind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve J. Rogers 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 Wasn't there heat between these two back around 99/2000? I rememeber HBK dodging that question as well during his RF Shoot. I remember reading something about HBK and HHH working to sabotage Rock early in his career (I vaguely remember a rumor about them lobbying to have him job the I-C belt to Bret or something like that), plus there was that promo back in 02 where HBK took a cheap shot at Rock out of the blue ("...just like the Rock is jealous of Hunter"), so there could be some kinda heat between these two. Anyway, I wouldn't rule out a match between these two. There's a poll on WWE.com asking whether or not people would wanna see HBK vs the Rock, and as you can imagine most people voted yes. This could all be a work to get people interested in a match between the two. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Around the time of HHH's first reign I think HBK was mouthing off about Rock which was one of the reasons behind HBK's "dissaperance" after turning heel and it seemed the original DX had reformed with Shane McMahon in the Rick Rude role That was on a Smackdown I believe, HBK was to be the ref in a Rock-HHH main event and HBK ended up delivering SCM to Rock giving Hunter the win, then he, HHH, Chyna and Shane celebrated HBK would not be seen again, save for some promotional apperances at the WWF NY and such untill joining the nWo in 2002 Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 Wasn't there heat between these two back around 99/2000? I rememeber HBK dodging that question as well during his RF Shoot. I remember reading something about HBK and HHH working to sabotage Rock early in his career (I vaguely remember a rumor about them lobbying to have him job the I-C belt to Bret or something like that), plus there was that promo back in 02 where HBK took a cheap shot at Rock out of the blue ("...just like the Rock is jealous of Hunter"), so there could be some kinda heat between these two. Anyway, I wouldn't rule out a match between these two. There's a poll on WWE.com asking whether or not people would wanna see HBK vs the Rock, and as you can imagine most people voted yes. This could all be a work to get people interested in a match between the two. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Around the time of HHH's first reign I think HBK was mouthing off about Rock which was one of the reasons behind HBK's "dissaperance" after turning heel and it seemed the original DX had reformed with Shane McMahon in the Rick Rude role That was on a Smackdown I believe, HBK was to be the ref in a Rock-HHH main event and HBK ended up delivering SCM to Rock giving Hunter the win, then he, HHH, Chyna and Shane celebrated HBK would not be seen again, save for some promotional apperances at the WWF NY and such untill joining the nWo in 2002 Steve <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I remember him ripping Austin on Byte This over refusing to job to Hunter, which was cited as one of the reasons he left, but I don't remember anything between he and Rock at that time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vampiro69 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 I think that they may just be trying to test the waters to see if there is interest in starting a Rock vs Michaels fued. I would pay to see that match, since it is one of the few money matches that they have left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Thrashist Report post Posted October 23, 2005 I don't think they're testing any interest or any of that. It just seems to me, considering Shawn was an asshole for so many years, that he pissed the Rock off while he was coming up in the business and so now that he has surpassed Shawn, he refuses to give him any of his time. Rock's made comments like this for a while, as well as there being subtle hints that Shawn has tried to put down Rock. Not only trying to put Hunter over Rock, but also in Foley's book, Mick hinted that they had tried making WMX5 a Rock vs Foley vs Austin match, but HBK insisted that it be made one-on-one. Except instead of all logic pointing to the inevitable Austin vs Rock, Shawn wanted an Austin vs Foley match. Of course, Shawn had no problem with a triple threat match five years later, but that's another story. While they've never had a full-blown feud, it doesn't seem to me that Rock feels he should come back to the business just to work a program with someone he's never been a huge fan of on a personal level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shanghai Kid 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 Maybe Rocky's worried that Shawn might be the only one on the roster that could upstage him. And the other way around. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Naw I like has been said he's probably just not a fan personally of HBK. Rock is in a posistion where if he comes back than its going to be to do a program or work with somebody who he really wants to work with. As far as upstaging goes, I'm sure most would agree that HBK is a superior worker. At the same time, their really isn't anybody in wrestling that would upstage the Rock on the mic, especially if Rock is playing heel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted October 23, 2005 I can't really blame The Rock for not wanting to work with Shawn. As it's been stated, he was a monumental asshole back then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 I don't think they're testing any interest or any of that. It just seems to me, considering Shawn was an asshole for so many years, that he pissed the Rock off while he was coming up in the business and so now that he has surpassed Shawn, he refuses to give him any of his time. Rock's made comments like this for a while, as well as there being subtle hints that Shawn has tried to put down Rock. Not only trying to put Hunter over Rock, but also in Foley's book, Mick hinted that they had tried making WMX5 a Rock vs Foley vs Austin match, but HBK insisted that it be made one-on-one. Except instead of all logic pointing to the inevitable Austin vs Rock, Shawn wanted an Austin vs Foley match. Of course, Shawn had no problem with a triple threat match five years later, but that's another story. While they've never had a full-blown feud, it doesn't seem to me that Rock feels he should come back to the business just to work a program with someone he's never been a huge fan of on a personal level. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> micks book always made me think, why did they listen to shawn then? was he head booker of the wwf in 99 or soemthing? i dont remember hearing that lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 If anyone knew the answer to the million dollar question "Why does Vince listen to Shawn?" it would explain pretty damn near every decision they made from 1994 to today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted October 23, 2005 If anyone knew the answer to the million dollar question "Why does Vince listen to Shawn?" it would explain pretty damn near every decision they made from 1994 to today. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He is a huge mark for Shawn (just listen to his past commentary), but that wouldn't really answer the question. There does seem to be something more to the situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 Can you imagine the match, though? My god the shitty punches, kip ups, and rope running... but by god would there be some dancing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big McLargeHuge 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 And the overselling can't forget that. Though, I actually like Rock's overselling compared to Shawn's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 I personally think they should each do sharpshooters. Both of them are fantastic at that move! Okay, to be fair to Shawn, it was Hogan he was doing it to, but still... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 I think we have the match all booked out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 23, 2005 I smell a RudoCurry production... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest rawmvp Report post Posted October 23, 2005 Wasn't there heat between these two back around 99/2000? I rememeber HBK dodging that question as well during his RF Shoot. I remember reading something about HBK and HHH working to sabotage Rock early in his career (I vaguely remember a rumor about them lobbying to have him job the I-C belt to Bret or something like that), plus there was that promo back in 02 where HBK took a cheap shot at Rock out of the blue ("...just like the Rock is jealous of Hunter"), so there could be some kinda heat between these two. Anyway, I wouldn't rule out a match between these two. There's a poll on WWE.com asking whether or not people would wanna see HBK vs the Rock, and as you can imagine most people voted yes. This could all be a work to get people interested in a match between the two. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Meltzer stated in his daily update yesterday that this is NOT a work, and that The Rock really does dislike Michaels and has no desire to ever work with him. Now, as for why the Rock dislikes Michaels so much, here's Meltzer's take (from 8-9-05 on the WrestlingClassics board): "The incident in question was a TV match in 1997 with Bret Hart as a heel vs. Rock as a face. rock and HHH were rivals for the same spot, and it was booked for Hart to win with a sharpshooter. Hart went to management and said Rock was going to be the future superstar of the company and he saw no reason to beat him. He knew why it was booked that way, so he did some sort of DQ finish instead. Shawn cried like a baby over it because their ingenious plan had been screwed. That's why, to this day, the guys Rock always praises the most are Hart and Austin. As far as Rock refusing to work with Michaels. I don't buy it, and I'm pretty sure if that was the case, I'd know. Saying he has no desire, that I can believe, but refusing, seriously, he's long past sweating anything that goes on in pro wrestling." Keep in mind that Meltzer didn't know (until now) that the Rock had absolutely no desire to work with HBK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 Wasn't there heat between these two back around 99/2000? I rememeber HBK dodging that question as well during his RF Shoot. I remember reading something about HBK and HHH working to sabotage Rock early in his career (I vaguely remember a rumor about them lobbying to have him job the I-C belt to Bret or something like that), plus there was that promo back in 02 where HBK took a cheap shot at Rock out of the blue ("...just like the Rock is jealous of Hunter"), so there could be some kinda heat between these two. Anyway, I wouldn't rule out a match between these two. There's a poll on WWE.com asking whether or not people would wanna see HBK vs the Rock, and as you can imagine most people voted yes. This could all be a work to get people interested in a match between the two. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Around the time of HHH's first reign I think HBK was mouthing off about Rock which was one of the reasons behind HBK's "dissaperance" after turning heel and it seemed the original DX had reformed with Shane McMahon in the Rick Rude role That was on a Smackdown I believe, HBK was to be the ref in a Rock-HHH main event and HBK ended up delivering SCM to Rock giving Hunter the win, then he, HHH, Chyna and Shane celebrated HBK would not be seen again, save for some promotional apperances at the WWF NY and such untill joining the nWo in 2002 Steve <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He came back four times in 2000. He showed up on RAW to announce he would be the referee of the iron Man Match at Judgement Day, which he did. He showed up to announce Mick Foley as the new commissioner. Mick Foley called him out in 2000 and questioned him over the Austin/car incident. And then there was the WWF NY appearance at the end of the year. He was out of sight in 2001. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve J. Rogers 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 Wasn't there heat between these two back around 99/2000? I rememeber HBK dodging that question as well during his RF Shoot. I remember reading something about HBK and HHH working to sabotage Rock early in his career (I vaguely remember a rumor about them lobbying to have him job the I-C belt to Bret or something like that), plus there was that promo back in 02 where HBK took a cheap shot at Rock out of the blue ("...just like the Rock is jealous of Hunter"), so there could be some kinda heat between these two. Anyway, I wouldn't rule out a match between these two. There's a poll on WWE.com asking whether or not people would wanna see HBK vs the Rock, and as you can imagine most people voted yes. This could all be a work to get people interested in a match between the two. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Around the time of HHH's first reign I think HBK was mouthing off about Rock which was one of the reasons behind HBK's "dissaperance" after turning heel and it seemed the original DX had reformed with Shane McMahon in the Rick Rude role That was on a Smackdown I believe, HBK was to be the ref in a Rock-HHH main event and HBK ended up delivering SCM to Rock giving Hunter the win, then he, HHH, Chyna and Shane celebrated HBK would not be seen again, save for some promotional apperances at the WWF NY and such untill joining the nWo in 2002 Steve <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thats right, I stand corrected. And yeah I did forget all those apperances in 2000, all pretty much "One Shots" and under his title as "WWF Ambassador" or something Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 I smell a RudoCurry production... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We're too busy in the lab right now collab'ing on a Top Ten Worst Posters list. Keep your eyes peeled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shanghai Kid 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 Then again maybe if they actually sat down they could actually bury the hatchet since he's supposedly a different guy now. Hell a guy like Austin has said that he's cool with HBK now, bit who knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Zaius 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 Am I wrong to think this could've had the best build-up in the history of scathing promos? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 HBk would get murdered on the mic with The Rock. The only guys to ever keep up with Rock would be Jericho ("You stupid son of a bitch!") and Austin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 I wish personal feelings wouldn't get in the way of good business, but I guess that's the industry for you. I really do hope it happens, I know it'd be a great match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 Wasn't there heat between these two back around 99/2000? I rememeber HBK dodging that question as well during his RF Shoot. I remember reading something about HBK and HHH working to sabotage Rock early in his career (I vaguely remember a rumor about them lobbying to have him job the I-C belt to Bret or something like that), plus there was that promo back in 02 where HBK took a cheap shot at Rock out of the blue ("...just like the Rock is jealous of Hunter"), so there could be some kinda heat between these two. Anyway, I wouldn't rule out a match between these two. There's a poll on WWE.com asking whether or not people would wanna see HBK vs the Rock, and as you can imagine most people voted yes. This could all be a work to get people interested in a match between the two. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Meltzer stated in his daily update yesterday that this is NOT a work, and that The Rock really does dislike Michaels and has no desire to ever work with him. Now, as for why the Rock dislikes Michaels so much, here's Meltzer's take (from 8-9-05 on the WrestlingClassics board): "The incident in question was a TV match in 1997 with Bret Hart as a heel vs. Rock as a face. rock and HHH were rivals for the same spot, and it was booked for Hart to win with a sharpshooter. Hart went to management and said Rock was going to be the future superstar of the company and he saw no reason to beat him. He knew why it was booked that way, so he did some sort of DQ finish instead. Shawn cried like a baby over it because their ingenious plan had been screwed. That's why, to this day, the guys Rock always praises the most are Hart and Austin. As far as Rock refusing to work with Michaels. I don't buy it, and I'm pretty sure if that was the case, I'd know. Saying he has no desire, that I can believe, but refusing, seriously, he's long past sweating anything that goes on in pro wrestling." Keep in mind that Meltzer didn't know (until now) that the Rock had absolutely no desire to work with HBK. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry but I don't buy that story for a second. That sounds like classic Meltzer revisionist history designed to make Bret look as good as possible and make Shawn and HHH look as bad as possible. "Rock was going to be the future superstar of the company"? And Meltzer makes it sound like Rock losing to main event star Bret Hart in that situation would have permanently buried him or something so that HHH could "take his spot". It's just more pro-Bret bullshit from Dave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 Wasn't there heat between these two back around 99/2000? I rememeber HBK dodging that question as well during his RF Shoot. I remember reading something about HBK and HHH working to sabotage Rock early in his career (I vaguely remember a rumor about them lobbying to have him job the I-C belt to Bret or something like that), plus there was that promo back in 02 where HBK took a cheap shot at Rock out of the blue ("...just like the Rock is jealous of Hunter"), so there could be some kinda heat between these two. Anyway, I wouldn't rule out a match between these two. There's a poll on WWE.com asking whether or not people would wanna see HBK vs the Rock, and as you can imagine most people voted yes. This could all be a work to get people interested in a match between the two. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Meltzer stated in his daily update yesterday that this is NOT a work, and that The Rock really does dislike Michaels and has no desire to ever work with him. Now, as for why the Rock dislikes Michaels so much, here's Meltzer's take (from 8-9-05 on the WrestlingClassics board): "The incident in question was a TV match in 1997 with Bret Hart as a heel vs. Rock as a face. rock and HHH were rivals for the same spot, and it was booked for Hart to win with a sharpshooter. Hart went to management and said Rock was going to be the future superstar of the company and he saw no reason to beat him. He knew why it was booked that way, so he did some sort of DQ finish instead. Shawn cried like a baby over it because their ingenious plan had been screwed. That's why, to this day, the guys Rock always praises the most are Hart and Austin. As far as Rock refusing to work with Michaels. I don't buy it, and I'm pretty sure if that was the case, I'd know. Saying he has no desire, that I can believe, but refusing, seriously, he's long past sweating anything that goes on in pro wrestling." Keep in mind that Meltzer didn't know (until now) that the Rock had absolutely no desire to work with HBK. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry but I don't buy that story for a second. That sounds like classic Meltzer revisionist history designed to make Bret look as good as possible and make Shawn and HHH look as bad as possible. "Rock was going to be the future superstar of the company"? And Meltzer makes it sound like Rock losing to main event star Bret Hart in that situation would have permanently buried him or something so that HHH could "take his spot". It's just more pro-Bret bullshit from Dave. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ummm Meltz is usually pro-Shawn and anti-Bret. Hell he ragged on Bret endlessly during that Flair stuff last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites