k thx 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 Dunno, if this has been mentioned in the States, but it looks as though bird flu is heading across europe. The first example of the deadly strain of the virus has been found in the UK.. At the moment theres a lot of scaremongering about it, as it is spead through birds (who can travel long distances) and has a high mortality rate in birds. If it mutates to a form which can affect humans, it may well cause a pandemic. Any views? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fishyswa Report post Posted October 23, 2005 Human flu, nothing, couple shots before the holidays and your set. Bird flu, pandemic, run for your lives, holy shit. My question is, does Harvey Birdman have it twice as hard? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 Avoid the shots at all cost. Just catch the human flu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 No more sex with birds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 I don't think most of the population would be killed by a case of the flu. Babies and old people need to watch out though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 I'm not worried until it spreads to Chicken McNuggets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 24, 2005 They're wiping out the Asians I tell you. Goddamn them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 Wiping out the pinko commie countries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BX 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 Avoid the shots at all cost. Just catch the human flu. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What kind of logic is this? I don't think most of the population would be killed by a case of the flu. Babies and old people need to watch out though. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Actually, if the 1918 flu is any indication, then the 18-40 demographic will suffer the most losses. Fear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 I will be very disappointed if this thing doesn't kill 3/4's of the worlds population, given the media hype on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted October 24, 2005 At the moment theres a lot of scaremongering about it, as it is spread through birds (who can travel long distances) and has a high mortality rate in birds. If it mutates to a form which can affect humans, it may well cause a pandemic. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> NO WAY! HOW?! They're wiping out the Asians I tell you. Goddamn them. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good. It's called population control. And people are still worried that we can harm the planet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 Boy, nature's sure finding ways to limit us, isn't it. A volcano erupted today too. Incredible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 Because the shot usually will either give you a cold or a flu anyway. It doesn't prevent shit. Catch the human flu, be done with it in three to four days and don't have to worry about it all winter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 Because the shot usually will either give you a cold or a flu anyway. It doesn't prevent shit. Catch the human flu, be done with it in three to four days and don't have to worry about it all winter. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ummm, y'know you can catch it more than once per season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 Because the shot usually will either give you a cold or a flu anyway. It doesn't prevent shit. Catch the human flu, be done with it in three to four days and don't have to worry about it all winter. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ummm, y'know you can catch it more than once per season. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Only time that ever happens for me is when I get one of those fucking shots. When I avoid the shots, I usually either don't get it or get it once for maybe three days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 Because the shot usually will either give you a cold or a flu anyway. It doesn't prevent shit. Catch the human flu, be done with it in three to four days and don't have to worry about it all winter. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ummm, y'know you can catch it more than once per season. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Only time that ever happens for me is when I get one of those fucking shots. When I avoid the shots, I usually either don't get it or get it once for maybe three days. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I stay away from the shots, too. I rarely get the flu anyway, and when I do get sick in the winter it's usually something to do with my sinus'.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 True dat. My sinus' ends up bein a bitch in the wintertime. The only flu I really hate is that stomach flu. That fucker just puts me in head, weak as hell. You know you are in trouble when you can't hold down water. Regular flu, man hit that with some showers and soup and it goes fast. Stomach flu? Fuck that, I might as well be dead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 I will be very disappointed if this thing doesn't kill 3/4's of the worlds population, given the media hype on it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It won't become a big issue in North America because talkshow god Operah will find a cure for it.....she did stop Madcow ya know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 I think the last time I caught the flu I was in high school, after a damn flu shot. Bring on the DEATH FLU! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BX 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 It doesn't matter if you catch the "human flu." This is an entirely different strain, and it'll change even more once it changes enought to spread easily among people. Just because you had a BS stomach flu doesn't mean you're bulletproof. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 But what if it does? Do we harvest SJ for the cure? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k thx 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 Yup. Better safe than sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BX 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2005 Bad idea. Any sort of serum extracted from SJ and injected into the general populace would turn them all into sniviling, know-it-all bastards. I'd rather everyone die. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2005 Stomach flu isn't really flu. The flu is a respiratory disease. Getting stomach flu doesn't protect you against shit. And you can't get the flu from a flu shot. That's a myth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2005 But what if it does? Do we harvest SJ for the cure? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ummmmm.... NO! Bad idea. Any sort of serum extracted from SJ and injected into the general populace would turn them all into sniviling, know-it-all bastards. I'd rather everyone die. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As if being right all the time is a bad thing... Some people just dont want to live I guess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2005 C'mon. It's for the sake of humanity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vampiro69 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2005 If I were you people I would avoid eating at Kentucky Fried Chicken for awhile. Also, this thanksgiving if you take a temperature of the turkey beore you put it in the oven, I recommend not eating it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sideburnious 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2005 Meh, a few human sacrafices and the gods will be happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BorneAgain 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2005 Some even better news. From BBC: 1918 Killer Flu "Came From Birds" 1918 killer flu 'came from birds' Flu viruses are constantly evolving The Spanish flu virus that killed up to 50 million people in 1918-19 was probably a strain that originated in birds, research has shown. US scientists have found the 1918 virus shares genetic mutations with the bird flu virus now circulating in Asia. Writing in Nature, they say their work underlines the threat the current strain poses to humans worldwide. A second paper in Science reveals another US team has successfully recreated the 1918 virus in mice. We are revealing some of the secrets that will help us predict and prepare for the next pandemic Julie Gerberding Seventh Indonesian bird flu death The virus is contained at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention under stringent safety conditions. It is hoped to carry out experiments to further understand the biological properties that made the virus so virulent. The virus was recreated from data produced by painstaking research by a team from the US Armed Forces Institute of Pathology. Lung tissue samples Working on virus samples from the remains of victims of the 1918 pandemic, the researchers were able to piece together the entire genetic sequence of the virus. They found the virus contained elements that were new to humans of the time - making it highly virulent. And analysis of the final three pieces of the virus' genetic code has revealed mutations that have striking similarities to those found in flu viruses found only in birds, such as the H5N1 strain currently found in south east Asia. This strain has so far killed at least 65 people. Many experts believe it is only a matter of time before H5N1, or a similar strain, causes many deaths in humans - possibly after combining with a human flu strain. Crucially, the mutations identified by the US researchers were found in genes which control the virus' ability to replicate in host cells. The researchers say these mutations may have helped the 1918 virus replicate more efficiently. At this stage, they say the H5N1 strain shares only some, and not all, of these mutations. Increased virulence But these mutations may be enough to increase the virus' virulence - and give it the potential to cause serious human infection without first combining with a known human flu strain. The researchers believe the two other major flu pandemics of the 20th century - in 1957 and 1968 - were caused by human flu viruses which acquired two or three key genes from bird flu virus strains. But they believe the 1918 strain was probably entirely a bird flu virus that adapted to function in humans. Julie Gerberding, director of the US Centers for Disease Control, said: "By unmasking the 1918 virus we are revealing some of the secrets that will help us predict and prepare for the next pandemic." And Dr Jeffery Taubenberger, lead researcher of the Nature study, said: "Determining whether pandemic influenza virus strains can emerge via different pathways will affect the scope and focus of surveillance and prevention efforts." Warning Professor John Oxford, an expert in virology at Queen Mary College, London, said the suggestion that the virus had the potential to jump between humans without first combining with a human virus made it even more of a threat. "This study gives us an extra warning that H5N1 needs to be taken even more seriously than it has been up to now," he said. Dr Terrence Tumpey, of the US CDC, defended the decision to recreate the 1918 flu virus. He said: "We felt we had to recreate the virus and run these experiments to understand the biological properties that made the 1918 virus so exceptionally deadly. "We wanted to identify the specific genes responsible for its virulence, with the hope of designing antivirals or other interventions that would work against virulent pandemic or epidemic influenza viruses." And if a flu similar to Spanish Flu were to occur again today, according the New England Journal of Medicine worldwide deaths could get as high as 360 million. Nice time to be alive, eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cameron chaos 0 Report post Posted October 31, 2005 Between hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, floods and now a new killer virus, if there is a God he must be pretty pissed off at us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites