Two Stars Suffer Serious Injuries at RAW

[cabbageboy 0]

You know, Edge is very injury prone. That's likely why he's never been given that big main event push, because they have no confidence in him to actually be healthy.

[Guest SavageRulz]

Kane just gets off knee surgery and now has this happen. Raw is back to being cursed again.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Edge's lack of main event push has nothing to do with his rate of injuries.

[Matt Young 0]

You know, Edge is very injury prone.  That's likely why he's never been given that big main event push, because they have no confidence in him to actually be healthy.

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That's only been the case since his return in spring 2004. He was obviously juicing, and that probably contributed to it.

[Enigma 0]

You know, Edge is very injury prone.  That's likely why he's never been given that big main event push, because they have no confidence in him to actually be healthy.

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That reminds me of that promo Edge & Christian did at some point when they were being forced to do a tag match in either late-2004 or early-2005. It was the match where Edge attacked Christian afterwards. I think it was right after Edge healed from that groin injury. They were trading insults on one another and one of Christian's comebacks was , "You'd probably break a rib just from breathing heavy."

[razazteca 0]

Edge's lack of main event push has nothing to do with his rate of injuries.

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At this rate Edge will never use the Money in the Bank contract.

[Guest JMA]

They could probably take care of the Money in the Bank contract by having Hardy or Mysterio burn it after the match. That way Edge could take time off to heal without that storyline getting in the way.

[Guest Fook_Theta]

Headlines for Wrestlemania 34 will feature Matt Hardy vs Edge in a Money in the Bank Ladder match.

 

BANK ON IT

[Jericholic82 0]

uh oh i picked kane for my fantasy team this week, are yuo guys sure he is hurt? if so I better sell him fast

[Silence 0]

Headlines for Wrestlemania 34 will feature Matt Hardy vs Edge in a Money in the Bank Ladder match.

 

BANK ON IT

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Are you sure they'll even be wrestling by then?

[Guest SavageRulz]

Wasn't it in exactly the same situation last year (triple threat match with the three title contenders) where Michaels ended up destroying his knee just before the PPV?

 

Rather odd coincidence.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Wasn't it in exactly the same situation last year (triple threat match with the three title contenders) where Michaels ended up destroying his knee just before the PPV?

 

Rather odd coincidence.

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Maybe that's the Taboo part of Taboo Tuesday

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Michaels made a not-so-thinly-veiled shoot comment at Edge during their uber-shitty feud earlier this year about constant injures. Funny, the only time I like Michaels mic-work is when he's.......well, himself.

[Guest SavageRulz]

Wasn't it in exactly the same situation last year (triple threat match with the three title contenders) where Michaels ended up destroying his knee just before the PPV?

 

Rather odd coincidence.

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Maybe that's the Taboo part of Taboo Tuesday

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Whatever it is, Vince should really start rethinking 14 PPV's because the buyrates are horseshit since he turned to a 14 PPV format.

[Guest *KNK*]

Wasn't it in exactly the same situation last year (triple threat match with the three title contenders) where Michaels ended up destroying his knee just before the PPV?

 

Rather odd coincidence.

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Maybe that's the Taboo part of Taboo Tuesday

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Whatever it is, Vince should really start rethinking 14 PPV's because the buyrates are horseshit since he turned to a 14 PPV format.

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He's been making more money with this format. They aren't getting rid of the format.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Wasn't it in exactly the same situation last year (triple threat match with the three title contenders) where Michaels ended up destroying his knee just before the PPV?

 

Rather odd coincidence.

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Maybe that's the Taboo part of Taboo Tuesday

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Whatever it is, Vince should really start rethinking 14 PPV's because the buyrates are horseshit since he turned to a 14 PPV format.

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He's been making more money with this format. They aren't getting rid of the format.

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The total number of buys is about the same as before, with the bigger PPV's carrying things, as they usually do. WWE is making the bulk of its money off of foreign tours.

[alfdogg 0]

Headlines for Wrestlemania 34 will feature Matt Hardy vs Edge in a Money in the Bank Ladder match.

 

BANK ON IT

Don't forget HHH vs Orton.

[Guest SavageRulz]

He's been making more money with this format. They aren't getting rid of the format.

 

How is he making more money? The buyrates are all down for the fourth straight year. Even if you take last years Taboo Tuesday and Great American Bash and throw those totals into other PPV's, they lost their asses.

[naiwf 0]

He's been making more money with this format. They aren't getting rid of the format.

 

How is he making more money? The buyrates are all down for the fourth straight year. Even if you take last years Taboo Tuesday and Great American Bash and throw those totals into other PPV's, they lost their asses.

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Even if the two extra PPVs "only" do a combined $250,000 worth of profit (random number pulled out of my ass), it's worth doing don't you think? Comparing it to 2004, 2003, 2002, or 2001 doesn't really have any bearing on the decision because cutting the two extras would cut into your profit margin.

[Guest SavageRulz]

Not really when the wrestlers are getting hurt and don't have time to prepare for the next PPV. The extra PPV's have done nothing to help the WWE, especially when they aren't making money with any of the feuds and storylines for what amounts to a thrown together PPV. Why not just ask NBC to bring back Saturday Night's Main Event, combine both shows for this monthly or bi monthly show, and use the profit margin from advertising to help further the storylines to the next PPV without sacrificing the product? All Saturday Night's Main Event was is a PPV builder to the big PPV's. All Taboo Tuesday and Great American Bash are, are fillers to try and think of things to do at Survivor Series and Summer Slam.

 

Which shows that the WWE is wasting money to promote these cards when they could do it for free on National TV and get better buyrates for Summer Slam and the Survivor Series.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Not really when the wrestlers are getting hurt and don't have time to prepare for the next PPV. The extra PPV's have done nothing to help the WWE, especially when they aren't making money with any of the feuds and storylines for what amounts to a thrown together PPV. Why not just ask NBC to bring back Saturday Night's Main Event, combine both shows for this monthly or bi monthly show, and use the profit margin from advertising to help further the storylines to the next PPV without sacrificing the product? All Saturday Night's Main Event was is a PPV builder to the big PPV's. All Taboo Tuesday and Great American Bash are, are fillers to try and think of things to do at Survivor Series and Summer Slam.

 

Which shows that the WWE is wasting money to promote these cards when they could do it for free on National TV and get better buyrates for Summer Slam and the Survivor Series.

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The extra PPV's have done nothing to help the WWE, especially when they aren't making money with any of the feuds and storylines for what amounts to a thrown together PPV.

 

WWE make as much money off of PPV's than Raw, if not more, because USA keeps all the ad money from Raw. It's why overloading Homecoming was shooting themselves in the foot.

 

Why not just ask NBC to bring back Saturday Night's Main Event, combine both shows for this monthly or bi monthly show, and use the profit margin from advertising to help further the storylines to the next PPV without sacrificing the product?

 

WWE only have two such specials in their new deal, and there are more than two PPV's you'd be giving up. I don't know if WWE are keeping any ad revenue from NBC in that deal, but I wouldn't think they are getting a good deal from their perspective if they are.

[Guest SavageRulz]

If they went to another Saturday Nights Main event, they wouldn't be giving up a PPV, they could easily shift them between the two shows. One month have a Raw when they don't have a PPV that month, to at least have some solid feuds going into the PPV's. And do the same thing with Smackdown. Promote them two weeks before the PPV.

 

You would only have to give up Taboo Tuesday and Great American Bash. The rest of the PPV's could stay or even rename them at this point.

 

And the WWE isn't making any money from NBC. NBC is a sister station for USA, which we all knew is keeping the revenue for the advertising. The WWE isn't making dick on the PPV's from this point on at least for the next year. The only money they will get that doesn't involve USA is Merch sales, gates, and International tours, according to the last couple stockholder calls. So why not cut the 2 PPV's and give the fans a PPV type show for free to see if they can lure some of the fans back to try and make a profit? It shows that they are trying to better the product and put faith in the fans.

[Guest Fishyswa]

You guys seem to forget that USA pays 30 million for Raw. So if advertising tanks, WWE doesn't suffer at all. They have there money. That's why they're pushing the whole "back at USA anything can happen", because they really have no reason to care about advertisers and who they offend.

[naiwf 0]

So why not cut the 2 PPV's and give the fans a PPV type show for free to see if they can lure some of the fans back to try and make a profit? It shows that they are trying to better the product and put faith in the fans.

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They did that, it was called Homecoming, and it didn't work.

[haVoc 0]

Small update...

 

Mike Johnson called from the airport with an update on the injury to Kane, which happened at last week's Raw.  It's feared that he has a broken vertebrae in his back and it's not known if he will be able to work at Taboo Tuesday.  An OVW talent named Jack Bull was scheduled to be called up for a program with Kane in a few weeks, but that has been put on hold, which tells you WWE is very concerned about the injury.

 

Edge is also hurting, with a chest injury of some kind (it may be a pec muscle).  We don't know his status for Taboo Tuesday at this time. 

 

Credit: PWInsider.com

[Guest FromBeyondTheGrave]

Jack Bull:

 

 

Real name: Gregg Groothuis

Height: 6'4".

Weight: 280 lbs.

Date of birth: May 1, 1970.

Hometown: Phoenix, AZ.

Pro debut: February 2000.

Trained by: Steve Islas.

Finishing move: Bullseye Powerbomb.

[razazteca 0]

Jack Bull:

 

 

Real name: Gregg Groothuis

Height: 6'4".

Weight: 280 lbs.

Date of birth: May 1, 1970.

Hometown: Phoenix, AZ.

Pro debut: February 2000.

Trained by: Steve Islas.

Finishing move: Bullseye Powerbomb.

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Have teh guy shave his head and beard and he could be Kane II......he would have to wear the mask of course.

[haVoc 0]

I'm not sure what a Bullseye Powerbomb is but I'm not shocked his finisher is some sort of powerbomb.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Kane just gets off knee surgery and now has this happen. Raw is back to being cursed again.

 

Gets injured in his return match, welcome to Nashville!

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Kane just gets off knee surgery and now has this happen. Raw is back to being cursed again.

 

Gets injured in his return match, welcome to Nashville!

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Nah.

 

Kane got injured in his SECOND match back.

 

Remember, he was in the battle royal the week before.