SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 The Neilsen ratings people called and asked me to do their survey during the week of November 24th. Vince McMahon better start kissing my ass RIGHT NOW! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted November 2, 2005 I've always wondered how Nielsen families are chosen. Do they attach something to your TV? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 Apparently people are called at random. I have to keep a written record in their mailed log book of everything I watch in a given week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 Apparently people are called at random. I have to keep a written record in their mailed log book of everything I watch in a given week. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Really? I always figured they attached sometime to your TV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 I was sent the diary 3 times......and I lied on it every time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 I did that once. I think they give you $1 for your work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strummer 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 I did one for radio once and got $1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 I did that once. I think they give you $1 for your work. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> $15. And I don't care. This is my golden opportunity to finally have a say in what gets to stay on TV. Three little words: Fuck. You. Vince. I think the idea they put a device on your TV comes from that Alf episode where the Tanners became a Neilsen family and Alf got all the other Neilsen families to watch and make a Polka show the highest rated show on television. OR The boxes do exist, but are few and far between. That'd explain where the "overnight" numbers come from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo Effect 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 You now watch Arrested Development. Just accept it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Ocean 3 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 I thought they deliberately pick groups of certain demographics to survey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 I thought they deliberately pick groups of certain demographics to survey. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Fortunately for me, they seem to need more white guys under 35. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 I always heard the boxes were installed in some TVs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 I know for a fact that they do hook up boxes to televisions, or some other sort of equipment. It can be a huge pain in the ass for some people though, especially those with home theaters. Either way, let us know how this goes for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 Measuring ratings Nielsen Television Ratings statistics are gathered in two ways: one is by extensive use of surveys, where viewers in various demographics are asked to keep a written record (called a diary) of what shows they watch at what times. The other is by the use of a limited number of Nielsen Boxes, which are small computers hooked up to a television in a home, which electronically records its activities and transmits them nightly to Nielsen. These Nielsen Boxes allow market researchers to study television viewing habits on a minute to minute basis, seeing at exactly what moment a viewer changed channels or turned off their TV. Additional use of direct reporting devices (called people meters) allow the company to gather overnight statistics in specific geographic areas. [edit] Ratings/Share and total viewers Nielsen Television Ratings are reported by ranking the percentage for each show of all viewers watching television at a given time. As of 2004, there are an estimated 109.6 million television households in the USA. A single national ratings point represents 1%, or 1,096,000 households for the 2004-05 season. Share is the percentage of television sets in use tuned to a specific program. These numbers are usually reported as (ratings points/share). For example, Nielsen may report a show as receiving a 9.2/15 during its broadcast, meaning 9.2%, or 10,083,200 households on average were tuned in at any given moment. Additionally, 15% of all televisions in use at the time were tuned into this program. Nielsen re-estimates the number of households each August for the upcoming television season. The Nielsen Television Ratings, Inc. company also provides statistics on estimated total number of viewers, and on specific demographics. Advertising rates are less influenced by total number of viewers than they are by appealing to particular demographics, such as age, sex, economic class, and area. Younger viewers are considered more attractive for many products, where as in some cases older and wealthier audiences are desired, or female audiences are desired over males. Television ratings are not an exact science, but they are a powerful force in determining the programming in an industry where millions of dollars are at stake every day. Because ratings are based on samples, it is possible for shows to get 0.0 rating, despite having an audience; CNBC talk show McEnroe was one notable example. [edit] "Sweeps" Much of the ratings system, however, still consists of the completion by viewers of ratings diaries, in which a viewer records his or her viewing habits, generally for a week, in exchange for being advanced a nominal fee. These diaries play an especially important role during the four annual sweeps periods conducted in November, February, May, and July in an attempt to measure the entire national audience rather than just that in the largest people-metered markets. (Other, smaller sweeps are conducted through the year in the markets large enough to be measured by non-demographic meters, but not large enough to be measured by the demographic meters (people meters).) Television networks and other programmers make unusual efforts to attract additional viewers during these periods, including airing mostly first-run programming as opposed to repeats, airing more special broadcasts, and including special content in programming such as guest stars, controversial and unexpected plots or topics, extended episodes, finales, and increased competition in advertising. Even news programs are often involved, airing especially controversial or titillating investigative reports and promotions. For this reason, the "sweeps" system of national ratings has been criticized as not representative of typical programming, and encouraging an increase in content of concern such as violence and explicit sexuality. [edit] Criticism of Ratings Systems There is some public critique regarding accuracy and potential bias within Nielsen's rating system. Since viewers are aware of being part of the Nielsen sample, it can lead to bias in recording and viewing habits. Statistics gathered by electronic reporting are often dramatically different from those gathered by viewer self-reporting or surveys. Opponents of government funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting argue that viewers intentionally over-report the viewing of PBS. In 2004, the Nielsen introduced a new system to measure local ratings in the largest market areas using its People Meters instead of the traditional paper diaries, which was criticized by News Corporation and other cultural advocates as resulting in a bias toward misreporting minority viewing. Many argue that commercial television under-represents minorities, which can lead to a de-facto discrimination in employment against minority actors and writers. Another criticism of the Nielsen ratings system is its failure to have a realistic system for measurement of television audience in environments outside the home, such as college dormitories, transport terminals, bars, and other public places where television is frequently viewed, often by large numbers of people in a common setting. Also, the rise of "time-shifting" through the use of VCRs, Digital Video Recorders (DVR), and downloading episodes from the Internet have also not, critics claim, been sufficiently addressed by the system. (Although downloading episodes is presently considered improper, if not illegal, it is nonetheless a widespread practice.) In February 2004, TiVo and Nielsen reached an agreement to provide information on DVR usage to the television industry. TiVo ratings reporting began in January, 2005, with other DVR providers expected to join soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 From wikipedia btw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conspiracy_Victim 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 The Neilsen ratings people called and asked me to do their survey during the week of November 24th. Vince McMahon better start kissing my ass RIGHT NOW! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But I thought he fired you? Or are you back on a pay per performance basis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 You now watch Arrested Development. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 I heard if you had a ratings box they pretty much didn't want you to tell anyone about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 "Because ratings are based on samples, it is possible for shows to get 0.0 rating, despite having an audience; CNBC talk show McEnroe was one notable example." I think this is a bullshit practice. Good shows could get cancelled just because a majority of "sample" homes aren't watching it. Fuck, it'd probably be more reliable just to measure when the toilets get flushed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boner Kawanger 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 Yeah, I've done this before. It's not a big deal. Please watch Arrested Development, though. And stop Internet-threatening Vince McMahon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 watch Arrested Development so I don't have to and can still watch it solely through purchasing the DVD sets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 Watch AD, but write down that you watched something else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 Watch AD, but write down that you watched something else. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Make sure to write down as an extra note that the Jon Lovitz episodes of NewsRadio were great and all the others sucked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 Won't bother me, seeing as NR isn't on TV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 I thought its still on Bravo and A&E. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 I heard if you had a ratings box they pretty much didn't want you to tell anyone about it <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's also true. They don't want any outside interference, much like what we're seeing here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 Yeah being a Nielsen family is fun. Sadly I account for 1 fucking household out of the millions so I don't really influence the ratings as much as I hoped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZGangsta 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2005 You now watch Arrested Development. Just accept it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eclipse 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2005 I remember they sent some letter talking about how they wanted to install a box. Fuck that, I didn't bother.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2005 You also watch Veronica Mars now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites