Okay, someone explain this to me...

[CBright7831 0]

I was watching WWE 24/7 Online (thanks in part to the Taboo Tuesday code) and was watching the cage match between Bret Hart and Sid. Now in that, everytime they would say WWF it would go like this:

 

"Bret Hart is climbing over! Bret Hart is going to win the [crowd noise] Championship."

 

But when I watched The Undertaker vs. Hulk Hogan from Tuesday In Texas, they say WWF alot and it doesn't get blanked out at all.

 

I know both of them didn't have the scratch logo, so why is WWF being blanked out in one, and not in the other?

 

EDIT- And they didn't blank WWF out for the Dreamer/Lawler match, I believe.

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

The answer is that it simply slipped through. There are more than a few instances of this on 24/7 Online from what I recall.

 

Scratch logo = not allowed

WWF = not allowed

 

Any other logo = allowed

"World Wrestling Federation" = allowed

[JustJoe2k5 0]

I really think it is pointless. I can understand if you want them to change what they are currently doing, but if it has already happened why not leave the "WWF" intact. People who purchase a wrestling video aren't going to be tricked thinking it was a wildlife video.

[CBright7831 0]

This is why I want to burndown the rain forest and shoot every animal in sight.

[David Blazenwing 0]

I never understood that either. The stuff happened before the lawsuit, why do they need to blur out the scratch logo and blank out "WWF"? It's retarded and the wildlife a-holes are retarded for making them do it.

[razazteca 0]

Panda lovers is pissed cause they always get ignored but other hippi groups like PETA gets all kinds of media attention.

[Naked Snake 0]

I never understood that either.  The stuff happened before the lawsuit, why do they need to blur out the scratch logo and blank out "WWF"?  It's retarded and the wildlife a-holes are retarded for making them do it.

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The stuff may have happened before the suit, but they are currently drawing revenue on those matches (matches on 24/7, DVD's etc) so they must not use the initials "WWF" or the scratch logo.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

How come they can use the old logo?

[Slickster 0]

How come they can use the old logo?

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In the 1994 agreement, the Fund accepted the use of the block 'WWF' logo as dissimilar enough to prevent confusion with the Fund. When WWE changed their logo to the 'scratch' logo without consulting the Fund, however, that's where the problem started.

[Slickster 0]

I was watching WWE 24/7 Online (thanks in part to the Taboo Tuesday code) and was watching the cage match between Bret Hart and Sid. Now in that, everytime they would say WWF it would go like this:

 

But when I watched The Undertaker vs. Hulk Hogan from Tuesday In Texas, they say WWF alot and it doesn't get blanked out at all.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

If I had to venture a guess, I would say it's because the TTiT match you saw was not converted from the mastertapes but was ripped from the 'Hulk Still Rules' DVD, which was when that match was originally converted to digital format. Since production on that DVD had begun before the 2002 name change, its contents could feature 'WWF' uncensored.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

I never understood that either.  The stuff happened before the lawsuit, why do they need to blur out the scratch logo and blank out "WWF"?  It's retarded and the wildlife a-holes are retarded for making them do it.

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Didn't we already have a huge thread about this? Blame Vince, not the Fund.

[Enigma 0]

According to Meltzer...

 

In 1994, Vince McMahon & the World Wildlife Fund made an agreement that Vince would never market his company as "WWF" outside of North America. The Fund is based out of the United Kingdom. Vince never once followed this agreement, and when business in North America started tanking due to the botched InVasion angle and they made plans to go to the UK a lot more, the Fund got pissed and finally filled a lawsuit in late-01 and in April 2002, a judge ruled in favor of the Fund.

 

The reason the block logo doesn't have to be censored is because in that 1994 contract, the Fund signed away it's consent for Vince to use it under any circumstances, so it can't be changed. But they never agreed upon anything on the scratch logo that was installed in 1998.

[cbacon 0]

Then why have I seen alterations on the old block logo (i.e. removing the "F"), most notably on legends entrance graphics?

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

It would be cool if instead of blurring, they put the old logo over it or something.

[claydude14 0]

That's just the Legends symbol they made recently. We're probably supposed to forget about the F.

 

Also, blacking out the end part of the scratch logo so that it was the WWE logo would probably be a better looking than blurs. In most cases the blacked out F would fade into the background of the banner, turnbuckle, etc.

[The Buzz 0]

that would be too easy...

[CBright7831 0]

How much would it cost to digitally remove the WWF scratch logos from the turbuckles, entrance, etc?

[Enigma 0]

I've always thought they should go in there and use CGI or some shit to overlay the WWF symbol with the WWE symbol

[Sass 0]

Vince really screwed the pooch here. I mean, what a dumb bastard he is to piss and shit on the WWF after they offered him a sweetheart deal towards doing business in *their* neck of the world and yet he just ignores it.

 

Now, WWE (not F, E...) 24/7 and other video released have to suffer for this, along with the fans. What a shame.

[Fökai 0]

But c'mon, can't money buy everything, including a settlement?

 

For a privately-financed company that exclusively takes donations to thrive, they're pretty hard-nosed about being confused with Titan in the first place.

[Guest tony manero]

Vince should just give them them a nice 10 million dollar donation, with a nice, apologetic letter to accompany it, and go back to the WWF name.

[Guest Lawlerm]

The irony is that the whole thing came about to stop them marketing themselves as the WWF overseas yet the majority of the ruling only applies in North America.

 

Everything thats released exclusively in the UK still has the 'WWF' references intact - even though thats what started legal proceedings in the first place. The case was even heard in a British court.

 

Figure that one out...

[Slickster 0]

The 'international marketing' stipulation was breached due to the Internet (wwf.com), which was ruled to indeed be 'marketing the WWF name overseas.'

[Lil' Bitch 0]

I like how it is with them just taking out the F when they say WWF, its a lot better than removing an entire sentence over one initial.