ROH Eddie Tribute Show this Sat.

[Mystery Eskimo 0]

The show is dedicated to Eddie. It isn't billed as a tribute to him. I think there's a difference there.

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So its not a night of tribute, its a night of dedication. I guess Gabe must have got the name wrong.

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I didn't notice what the show was called.

 

And I still don't see ROH selling too many extra tickets on the back of that name and a 10 bell salute. It's not like they're promoting a special match or interviews or anything.

[Copper Feel 0]

The show is dedicated to Eddie. It isn't billed as a tribute to him. I think there's a difference there.

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So its not a night of tribute, its a night of dedication. I guess Gabe must have got the name wrong.

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I didn't notice what the show was called.

 

And I still don't see ROH selling too many extra tickets on the back of that name and a 10 bell salute. It's not like they're promoting a special match or interviews or anything.

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I dont see them selling many extra tickets because of the name of the show either.

 

However my gripes with the show have nothing to do with that, and everything to do with the fact that they havent booked any wrestlers that were close with Eddie, and have instead boooked the same old ROH talent they would for every show.

 

The idea of the show being slapped on to sell tickets and videos, shouldunt be dismissed so easily.

 

After all, Shinya Hashimoto was a massive wrestling star and ROH didnt do a tribute show for him when he died, because their mainly playing to American audiences.

[The Buzz 0]

Edit: meh nevermind...I shouldn't even be arguing about this.

[Bruce Blank 0]

After all, Shinya Hashimoto was a massive wrestling star and ROH didnt do a tribute show for him when he died, because their mainly playing to  American audiences.

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Did Hashimoto ever appear on a ROH show?

 

and I guess any and all comments about how Eddy the PERSON touched so many wrestlers and fans in his short time there is just ignored in favor of the "internet negative" slant of "this is just to sell tickets"??

 

man there are some bitter, bitter people on these boards - lighten up!

[JustJoe2k5 0]

I wouldn't say there are bitter people on this board, I will say that there are alot of people who would rather die than criticize Ring of Honor. Someone says a RoH match goes sixty minutes, without any other details, and people call it a "Match of the Year Candidate". Samoa Joe makes an idiotic move in physically confronting a fan, and everyone says how cool it'll look on video. Ring of Honor is great, but alot of people here want to think it is perfect.

[Guest OSIcon]

It has nothing to do with thinking that everything ROH does is perfect. I could give you a handul of negative things on every ROH show I see. Saying that everyone who defends ROH in a situation are all "people who believe they can do no wrong" is just as bad "one-mindedness" as those ROH Fans who truely do believe they can do no wrong.

 

I still stick to my original stance. There are many ways you can pay tribute to a person. The people that have a problem with ROH's show tonight seem to be stuck in the mindset that there are only a few "acceptable ways" of paying tribute to Eddie. I think simply dedicating the show to Eddie and having wrestlers pay tribute in their own way during the show (via a move or promo) is paying tribute. Wrestlers wearing arm bands with something about Eddie on it is "paying tribute". There are a lot of ways to do it and just because they aren't donating money doesn't mean they are trying to profit off of his death.

[JustJoe2k5 0]

Ring of Honor isn't donating any money? If that is true...that's pretty bad.

[bob_barron 0]

It's not like Eddy Guerrero has some sort of fund set up like Candido.

[Copper Feel 0]

Ring of Honor isn't donating any money?  If that is true...that's pretty bad.

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Thats the understatement of the year!!!

 

For ROH to use Eddie's name to sell tickets, butcher the card and then not give his family any of the money, well..... i think maybe they should change their company name.

[The Buzz 0]

I think people get the wrong idea. This event was planned for awhile...so the card was already atleast some what thought out. Eddie died and then they said...ok on the show we got coming up, lets pay some tribute to Eddie with a ten bell salute, and if any of the wrestlers want to pay tribute during their match then that'd be respectful. Then they named it Night of Tribute instead of ..Honor Invades Boston, Glory By Honor 5, etc. It's not a spur of the moment show made just to cash in on Eddie. Advance tickets were sold in advance for ROH not for Eddie Guerrero as the good man was still alive then.

[Copper Feel 0]

I think people get the wrong idea. This event was planned for awhile...so the card was already atleast some what thought out. Eddie died and then they said...ok on the show we got coming up, lets pay some tribute to Eddie with a ten bell salute, and if any of the wrestlers want to pay tribute during their match then that'd be respectful. Then they named it Night of Tribute instead of ..Honor Invades Boston, Glory By Honor 5, etc. It's not a spur of the moment show made just to cash in on Eddie. Advance tickets were sold in advance for ROH not for Eddie Guerrero as the good man was still alive then.

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Yes, but dont ROH make like 95% of their money from video sales anyway?

 

Im not saying that ROH are trying to cash in on the tradegy, im just saying that the idea shouldunt be dismissed so easily.

[The Buzz 0]

That's understandable and I respect your opinion. I just would expect that out of a lower independent promotion not the one that's drawing more paid fans then the number two promotion. I hope the people running it are the nice, caring, and friendly people I think they are.

[JustJoe2k5 0]

That's understandable and I respect your opinion. I just would expect that out of a lower independent promotion not the one that's drawing more paid fans then the number two promotion. I hope the people running it are the nice, caring, and friendly people I think they are.

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Since when has attendance determined how nice the people who run a promotion are? And Ring of Honor's previous owner was nice, caring, and friendly...if you're a teenage boy.

[Copper Feel 0]

That's understandable and I respect your opinion. I just would expect that out of a lower independent promotion not the one that's drawing more paid fans then the number two promotion.

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Yes but the average backyard fed draws more paid fans then the number 2 promotion.

 

JustJoe25K

And Ring of Honor's previous owner was nice, caring, and friendly...if you're a teenage boy.

 

Im no great fan of ROH, but bringing up Feinstein as a point against Gabe is kinda weak. Although to be fair he was being payed by ROH for a short time following the scandal.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

"Yes but the average backyard fed draws more paid fans then the number 2 promotion."

 

No, they don't. The average backyard fed wouldn't gross in a year what TNA took in as its live gate for Bound for Glory. Don't be a retard.

[Guest Coffey]

I wouldn't say there are bitter people on this board...

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You'd be wrong.

[Copper Feel 0]

"Yes but the average backyard fed draws more paid fans then the number 2 promotion."

 

No, they don't.  The average backyard fed wouldn't gross in a year what TNA took in as its live gate for Bound for Glory.  Don't be a retard.

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Oh, i thought that TNA let fans into their shows for free?

 

Thats certainly the way it worked when i went to those Impact! tapings.

[Guest RickyB]

Impact Tapings are free, Bound For Glory was paid tickets, not sure if Genisis was as well though.

[JustJoe2k5 0]

Not exactly sure why TNA was brought up, the pay-per-view wasn't titled Bound For Glory: The Eddie Guerrero Tribute Show. TNA did what RoH should've done, have the tributes throughout the show without shamelessly tagging on the name in hopes of selling some additional tickets.

[Copper Feel 0]

Not exactly sure why TNA was brought up, the pay-per-view wasn't titled Bound For Glory:  The Eddie Guerrero Tribute Show.  TNA did what RoH should've done, have the tributes throughout the show without shamelessly tagging on the name in hopes of selling some additional tickets.

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If they were trying to sell anything with the name of the show, then it will have been videos. They make like 85% of their money that way.

[stahl 0]

TNA did what RoH should've done, have the tributes throughout the show without shamelessly tagging on the name in hopes of selling some additional tickets.

 

I would still like someone to explain how exactly calling it an Eddie Tribute show actually sold any extra tickets when the card remained exactly the same.

[JustJoe2k5 0]

A casual wrestling fan wouldn't know anything about the card, they would see "Eddie Guerrero Tribute Show" and possibly expect an appearance by Chavo Guerrero or other family members. RoH didn't need to rename the show unless they were going to have something special.

[Guest GoJoe]

First of all, they didn't rename the show, it didn't have a name before they decided on "A Night of Tribute".

 

Second, there was no reference to Guerrero in the title of the show, unless you know that they're acknowledgeing "A Night of Apreciation", which was Eddie's last show for the company. And anyone who knows that tidbit, isn't going to be casual enough to expect Chavo Guerrero in attendance.

[stahl 0]

A casual wrestling fan wouldn't know anything about the card, they would see "Eddie Guerrero Tribute Show" and possibly expect an appearance by Chavo Guerrero or other family members. RoH didn't need to rename the show unless they were going to have something special.

 

A casual wrestling fan has never heard of ring of honor..

 

Also, if said casual fan thought an appearance by Chavo was upcoming, then they are a retard and that is not ROH's fault. ROH list their talent very clearly that will appear on each show. This argument is very flawed.

 

As for ROH not needing to rename the show unless they were going to have something special. Are you insane or just so blind to a very nice gesture? The gesture in itself was very special since Eddie actually appeared on two earlier ROH shows. If they did anything else then most likely it WOULD be a ploy to sell tickets off of Eddies name value and that is what you are supposed to be arguing that they did in the first place.

 

Nothing but a simple and nice gesture to one of wrestlings legends and nothing more, that too many people are taking way out of context without any valid support for their claims.

[JustJoe2k5 0]

A casual wrestling fan doesn't need to know what Ring of Honor is, all he would have to see is "Eddie Guerrero Tribute Show". With a title like that, the fan would naturally think someone connected to Eddie Guerrero will either appear or wrestle on the show. How exactly can you argue that it isn't a ploy to sell tickets? Why did they have to rename the event in the first place? Couldn't they have just had the tributes on the show without additional press? TNA did it at Bound For Glory, RoH could've easily done it but of course they had to try and get some additional attention.

 

Ring of Honor fanatics are never going to see it that way, so it may be useless arguing the point.

[stahl 0]

I'm sorry but If I hear something called an Eddie Tribute show I am not so stupid to assume anyone related to Eddie would be appearing unless it was a WWE event.

 

Simply naming the show is not for additional press, but to salute and pay tribute to one of the best wrestlers that ever lived. People like you are being blinded by nothing more then a nice tribute.

 

Unless you can provide some solid proof that Ring of Honor made any extra money off of this event then your arguement is lacking and very tasteless to assume the company would try to profit off of his death. And no, your previous attempts at assuming fans are stupid and would think Eddie's family would be there does not count because you can't blame stupid fans on Ring of Honor when they list the talent scheduled to appear, and Gabe himself stated in the original message that it was simply a tribute and nothing else would be changed.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

There are two ways to look at it.

 

Either ROH was trying to cash in, or they were making a really shitty, hollow, token, gesture to Eddie Guerrero. It's the equivalent of wearing a ribbon. It was pretty much the least they could have done. If that's your standard for a "nice tribute", then, well, you have pretty fuckin low standards (but then again, this IS ROH we're talkin about).

[Guest ChikoDemono]

The gesture in itself was very special since Eddie actually appeared on two earlier ROH shows. If they did anything else then most likely it WOULD be a ploy to sell tickets off of Eddies name value and that is what you are supposed to be arguing that they did in the first place.

 

What more could the good folks at RoH do besides name their show: "A Night of Tribute"?

 

I'm in the camp that believes in a simple, ten-ring, bell salute with all of the wrestlers and fans bowing their heads while thinking of Eddie Guerrero, instead of tagging on a title that may be mistaken as a "tribute show". Perchance wrestling fans really are not as intelligent as Stahl, but then, who are?

[Guest GoJoe]

A casual wrestling fan doesn't need to know what Ring of Honor is, all he would have to see is "Eddie Guerrero Tribute Show".  With a title like that, the fan would naturally think someone connected to Eddie Guerrero will either appear or wrestle on the show.  How exactly can you argue that it isn't a ploy to sell tickets?  Why did they have to rename the event in the first place?  Couldn't they have just had the tributes on the show without additional press?  TNA did it at Bound For Glory, RoH could've easily done it but of course they had to try and get some additional attention.

 

Ring of Honor fanatics are never going to see it that way, so it may be useless arguing the point.

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Did you go out of your way to ignore my post or something?

[Copper Feel 0]

The gesture in itself was very special since Eddie actually appeared on two earlier ROH shows. If they did anything else then most likely it WOULD be a ploy to sell tickets off of Eddies name value and that is what you are supposed to be arguing that they did in the first place.

 

What more could the good folks at RoH do besides name their show: "A Night of Tribute"?

 

I'm in the camp that believes in a simple, ten-ring, bell salute with all of the wrestlers and fans bowing their heads while thinking of Eddie Guerrero, instead of tagging on a title that may be mistaken as a "tribute show". Perchance wrestling fans really are not as intelligent as Stahl, but then, who are?

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Wheras im in the camp that thinks if youre gonna give your wrestling show a name, which is directly linked to a wrestler who just died you had better do more then a half assed attempt at a tribute.