I'm Not Feeling Survivor Series

[LooseCannon25 0]

A man who would lie about his age to get on Tough Enough?

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Whats the story with that?

[Prophet of Mike Zagurski 0]

Up next: Kurt Angle

 

Were going to ask Kurt Angle about his loss tonight to John Cena in the WWE Championship Match.

 

Kurt Angle is entering the room.

 

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WWE.com: Please stand by. There is currently a situation in the WWE Instant Access Room.

 

WWE.com: We apologize. Kurt Angle is still very upset from his loss. He blew up in our Instant Access room, claiming he was screwed -- blaming the fans -- blaming biased officiating. He destroyed our Instant Access Room. We hope to have footage of this on WWE.com as soon as possible.

 

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It's funny to picture that happening

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http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/591...ena?section=%2F

 

"I say SCREW the audience, and I say SCREW America!"

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Kurt Angle - Iraqi sympathizer. Watch it happen

[Guest tony manero]

Up next: Kurt Angle

 

Were going to ask Kurt Angle about his loss tonight to John Cena in the WWE Championship Match.

 

Kurt Angle is entering the room.

 

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WWE.com: Please stand by. There is currently a situation in the WWE Instant Access Room.

 

WWE.com: We apologize. Kurt Angle is still very upset from his loss. He blew up in our Instant Access room, claiming he was screwed -- blaming the fans -- blaming biased officiating. He destroyed our Instant Access Room. We hope to have footage of this on WWE.com as soon as possible.

 

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It's funny to picture that happening

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http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/591...ena?section=%2F

 

"I say SCREW the audience, and I say SCREW America!"

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Screw the audience now?

 

Wow, Vince is pulling out all the stops to make sure Angle isn't cheered at all against Cena.

 

 

Fuck You, Vince.

 

You're so out of touch with reality, it's amazing you got as far as you did. In fact, I'd say that Vince was always in the right place at the right time. I don't think he's responsible for any of the WWF/E's success. All of that goes to the performers (Hogan, Austin, Rock, Foley) and to a few guys who had to CONVINCE Vince to go with an edgier product in 1997.

 

For anyone who's read HBK"s book will know that Vince is a stubborn, conservative, boring guy in real life who was always against blading and using tables or chairs in matches.

 

Oh, and according to the Torch, Cena is scheduled to be the World Champ for most of 2006; so, he isn't losing the title any time soon.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Yes I'll believe anything HBK says in his book when hell freezes over.

[Guest tony manero]

Yes I'll believe anything HBK says in his book when hell freezes over.

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Please, he has zero reason to lie about what kind of person Vince is.

 

It's shocking to see how similar Vince is to Vern Gagne.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

The issue isn't whether or not Vince is such a person, the issue is that you're believing SHAWN MICHAELS who admitted to having lied about Montreal for many years, as well as lied about pretty much everything.

[Guest tony manero]

Here's the Boogeyman (Marty Wright) back when he was a bodybuilder and had his teeth in 2002:

 

 

[Prophet of Mike Zagurski 0]

For anyone who's read HBK"s book will know that Vince is a stubborn, conservative, boring guy in real life who was always against blading and using tables or chairs in matches.

 

*cough* Wrestlemania XIX, Survivor Series 2003, Royal Rumble 2002, and to a lesser extent Wrestlemania X-7.

 

Vince has bladed in more than half the matches he has wrestled in.

[Guest tony manero]

The issue isn't whether or not Vince is such a person, the issue is that you're believing SHAWN MICHAELS who admitted to having lied about Montreal for many years, as well as lied about pretty much everything.

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Well, I read the whole book, and though I would certainly agree that he lied about a lot of the touchy subjects, I figured he told the truth about the stuff that didn't threaten him as a person.

 

Lying about how Vince McMahon was initially (and adamantly) against Nash powerbombing HBK through the table at Good Friends, Better Enemies, doesn't make sense.

[Guest tony manero]

For anyone who's read HBK"s book will know that Vince is a stubborn, conservative, boring guy in real life who was always against blading and using tables or chairs in matches.

 

*cough* Wrestlemania XIX, Survivor Series 2003, Royal Rumble 2002, and to a lesser extent Wrestlemania X-7.

 

Vince has bladed in more than half the matches he has wrestled in.

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I'm talking about the time period before the Attitude Era. Once he realized it was cool, he latched on to it.

[Guest JoeJoe]

Yeah, didn't he make a fuss over the Bret/Davey match from IYH...

[BigDawgCarl 0]

They're keeping the belt on Cena so people will WANT to see H take it off 'em.

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ding

 

And even worse, they're gonna do it at WM 22. So expect Vince to keep Cena as stale as possible up to WM, so HHH can cut "real" promos about how the fans are sick of Cena, and they want the belt to come "home".

[Jericholic82 0]

They're keeping the belt on Cena so people will WANT to see H take it off 'em.

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ding

 

And even worse, they're gonna do it at WM 22. So expect Vince to keep Cena as stale as possible up to WM, so HHH can cut "real" promos about how the fans are sick of Cena, and they want the belt to come "home".

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(Freaks out and runs outside)

[Guest JRE]

Anyone else think the commentary killed the main event? Not just the fact that 5 men were commentating- but that Tazz and Cole decided to be extremely whiney and unprofessional. It seems like Styles just stopped talking when he realized Tazz would cut him off and go on a rant about him whenever he chimed in. Even Coach came out looking good by trying to get them to chill out.

 

At one point in the match Tazz decided to give commentating points to guys ("resetting") that have been commentating just as long as him (Coach) and guys with more experience (King and Styles). It was just distracting and not necessary. King would try a color commentating line, perfectly relevant to the match, and then Cole and Tazz would decide to berate him for the line being generic. So what? At least he was calling the match and not mumbling about brussel sprouts, Tazz. And Smackdown has the best referees, Cole? Really? What about the Booker/Benoit finish you were so upset about? Thankfully, the Raw guys didn't call out Cole and Tazz on all their mistakes and as a result...they came across as far more professional.

 

So uh...Tazz and Cole...downgrade.

[Jericholic82 0]

Anyone else think the commentary killed the main event?  Not just the fact that 5 men were commentating- but that Tazz and Cole decided to be extremely whiney and unprofessional.  It seems like Styles just stopped talking when he realized Tazz would cut him off and go on a rant about him whenever he chimed in.  EVen Coach came out looking good by trying to ge them to chill out. 

 

At one point in the match Tazz decided to give commentating points to guys ("resetting") that have been commentating just as long as him (Coach) and guys with more experience (King and Styles).  It was just distracting and not necessary.  King would try a color commentating line, perfectly relevant to the match, and then Cole and Tazz would decide to berate him for the line being generic.  So what?  At least he was calling the match and not mumbling about brussel sprouts, Tazz.  And Smackdown has the best referees, Cole?  Really?  What about the Booker/Benoit finish you were so upset about?  Thankfully, the Raw guys didn't call out Cole and Tazz on all their mistakes and as a result...they came across as far more professional.

 

So uh...Tazz and Cole...downgrade.

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yea the commentary was very annoying

 

man did this show suck (outside of LMS), glad I didnt pay for it

 

I missed about the first 10 mins of the show cuz of the giants game but the benoit/t match looked bad anyhow

[Guest tony manero]

For those whining about Lashley being eliminated first, take a look in the mirror. Your hard-on for muscle-bound, juiced up guys is a reason for why wrestlers continue to take roids and HgH.

 

Personally, I'd like to believe that guys with inflated physiques are going to be made to look less than superior from now on, especially with the drug policy being instituted.

 

Otherwise, Eddie's death will be in vain.

[Guest Coffey]

Lashley is just another no-talent hoss to me. I'd have preferred him not to be in the match at all.

[edotherocket 0]

Man, when was the last time Taker busted out an outfit that was entirely spandex?

[haws bah gawd 0]

Last time I remember was during the ministry days.

 

[cabbageboy 0]

I didn't expect Lashley to last a huge amount of time, but the first man out? They couldn't job out the useless Chris Masters or the even more worthless Carlito before him? I'd have at least had Lashley keep some credibility by fighting Show and Kane and being counted out or something.

 

That Torch thing seems so insanely full of shit to me. There is no way they can possibly keep the belt on Cena for most of 2006, not at this rate. My God, the guy is getting jeered out of the building.

 

The sad thing is the comment about "They want you to want HHH to beat Cena" is very true. Hell after the Angle/Cena match last night I said "You know, I'm so sick of Cena at this point I almost wish HHH would get the title back."

[Guest JMA]

Shawn and Flair have been protrayed as the top faces the last 3 months anyways.

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Indeed, and that pisses me off a great deal. Sometimes I wish WWE would just get rid of the new Clique (HHH, HBK, Flair). Not to mention some other guys.

[cabbageboy 0]

The only real problem I have with Shawn and Flair as the top faces is that both guys are old and to some degree stale (Flair the older, Michaels the staler). Neither are really worth building the company around at this point, but when you take a look and see Cena being booed out of arenas, Angle on death watch, Orton being generally heatless, and guys like Carlito and Chris Masters being worthless...who else IS there right now?

[cameron chaos 0]

Man, when was the last time Taker busted out an outfit that was entirely spandex?

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Haws By Gawd is correct, it's been what... 6 years? I think the main reason was Taker lost muscle due to knee and hip surgeries so his legs became thinner and out of proportion with the rest of his body. So it'd didn't look odd he chose jeans or loose leather pants for ring attire. Since about 2002 he's taken a greater interest in physical training again after he got into UFC due to Bradshaw and actually visited some MMA gyms (LVCC and Team Quest) for a bit of training. Apparently he got some tips from Randy Couture about maintaining muscle and flexibility as you get older so he's in much better shape than he was a few years ago, perhaps he just finally felt comfortable enough to go back to his old tights.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Anyone else think the commentary killed the main event?

 

Nah, I got a kick out of Cole and Tazz bullying the Raw team silent.

 

I didn't expect Lashley to last a huge amount of time, but the first man out? They couldn't job out the useless Chris Masters or the even more worthless Carlito before him?

 

Yeah, I was shocked the rookies were eliminated AFTER Kane and Big Show.

 

That Torch thing seems so insanely full of shit to me. There is no way they can possibly keep the belt on Cena for most of 2006, not at this rate. My God, the guy is getting jeered out of the building.

 

Then again, supposedly it was reported Vince originally wanted JBL to hold the WWE Championship until SummerSlam this year so it doesn't surprise me.

[4hartthreat 0]

Well, I read the whole book, and though I would certainly agree that he lied about a lot of the touchy subjects, I figured he told the truth about the stuff that didn't threaten him as a person.

 

Lying about how Vince McMahon was initially (and adamantly) against Nash powerbombing HBK through the table at Good Friends, Better Enemies, doesn't make sense.

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Why would Vince be so opposed to Nash powerbombing Shawn through a table at that show when Nash had already done it to Bret at SSeries the previous year?

[fazzle 0]

Is it just me, or does Taker kind of look like George Carlin now?

[Guest New Jake]

I didn't expect Lashley to last a huge amount of time, but the first man out?  They couldn't job out the useless Chris Masters or the even more worthless Carlito before him?  I'd have at least had Lashley keep some credibility by fighting Show and Kane and being counted out or something.

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Fuck Lashley and his potential "Goldberg" arse. I'm more annoyed with Masters and Carlito lasting longer then some of the main talent.

 

I'm glad I only caught the end of the PPV. What a load of shit! Fuck Vince and his egotistical douche baggery. Why do you people still give this asshole the dignity of money and ratings by watching his sorry product when you can give him the middle finger and just boycott wrestling. (Fuck TNA, how long have they been building they're shitty promotion now?). Vince does not care about the fans. If he did he wouldnt be shoving losers like Master, Carlito and Orton down our throats and he'd be learning from shit like rating decline and face pop decline(Cena). But no, Vince is so convinced that he can entertain the public with dogshit. Think about it, we have asked for so many things this year and none of them happened (Cena and Batista's stripping of the belt, Angle title run, no more Orton).

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

I didn't expect Lashley to last a huge amount of time, but the first man out?  They couldn't job out the useless Chris Masters or the even more worthless Carlito before him?  I'd have at least had Lashley keep some credibility by fighting Show and Kane and being counted out or something.

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Fuck Lashley and his potential "Goldberg" arse. I'm more annoyed with Masters and Carlito lasting longer then some of the main talent.

 

I'm glad I only caught the end of the PPV. What a load of shit! Fuck Vince and his egotistical douche baggery. Why do you people still give this asshole the dignity of money and ratings by watching his sorry product when you can give him the middle finger and just boycott wrestling. (Fuck TNA, how long have they been building they're shitty promotion now?). Vince does not care about the fans. If he did he wouldnt be shoving losers like Master, Carlito and Orton down our throats and he'd be learning from shit like rating decline and face pop decline(Cena). But no, Vince is so convinced that he can entertain the public with dogshit. Think about it, we have asked for so many things this year and none of them happened (Cena and Batista's stripping of the belt, Angle title run, no more Orton).

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Vince does it because he loves you, New Jake.

[hyperchord24 0]

I do have to agree though, fans have been crapping all over the "golberg" gimmick ever since the taser incident.

[The Tino Standard 0]

One, just because you put a title on a guy like Michaels doesn't mean you're building your entire company around him. There's nothing wrong with having a transitional champion until somebody who really deserves having a company built around them emerges.

 

Second, the whole "this is our star of the future, let's put the title on him and build our company around him, touting him as being The Man for the next generation" thing doesn't work. Cena is bombing. Orton bombed. Lesnar was moderately successful, but he bolted.

 

You shouldn't be putting titles on people to get them over. You put titles on people who already ARE over. You don't get guys over by making them champion. If anything, you put them in a deeper hole because people shit on those wrestlers, knowing full well they don't deserve a belt. Nobody catches on with fans because they are champion. They become champion because they've already caught on with fans.