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Once Avery gets a broken neck and returns to the NHL, he will be nice enough to everyone that he could win the Lady Byng Trophy.

[TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0]

McGratton didn't want to fight fairly, his goal was to send a message. His job was done. Avery should've been ready, anyone could've seen that coming. And Hase coming out is no excuse to punch him in the face. You want him to back off you shove him, you don't punch him in the face. And if you do punch him, you better expect payback.

First of all, we are talking about Sean Avery, correct? The guy is stupider than shit and I wouldn't even expect him to know what was coming. Besides, Avery swung and missed Hasek, then he barely grazed him and knocked his mask off before being pounded on by 3 guys. What McGrattan did was payback, but he could have let Avery turn around so that he could give him a shot to the face instead of cross checking him in the back of the head. The game wouldn't have gotten so chippy towards the end if he would have called Avery out, and then with Avery saying no, drop the gloves and get him in the face a few times. In Nashville when Avery knew Hordichuk was coming, he turtled and got pounded on. The game was much, much more smoothly played afterwards.

He didn't crosscheck him from behind. They were side by side and McGratton started punching him, Avery made no attempt to defend himself. You'd think Andy Murray would expect that though, even if Avery was too dumb too. Avery is like a poor man's Claude Lemieux, but much more annoying and less talented.

 

Heatley crosschecked Conroy to the ice and his skate happened to fly up. It was almost Malarchukish.

I'm not blaming Conroy. I'm just saying that moment was scarier from a Sens fans perspective.

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He didn't crosscheck him from behind. They were side by side and McGratton started punching him, Avery made no attempt to defend himself.

He didn't have much of a chance to defend himself, but he did try to grab onto his leg and tackle him, which is plain stupid because McGrattan is just a huge man and there's no way that Avery's strong enough to do so.

 

You'd think Andy Murray would expect that though, even if Avery was too dumb too.

This would have all been prevented if Andy had the nuts to dress a fucking enforcer. His no fighting shit is running thin when teams that are more physical than us can take runs at us all night and no one can put a stop to it. We wouldn't even been talking about this if he dressed an enforcer, because either Avery wouldn't have been on the ice at all and McGrattan would have squared off with the guy or Avery would have been out there with an enforcer and he would have had more help. Matty Norstrom saved Avery's life tonight.

 

Avery is like a poor man's Claude Lemieux, but much more annoying and less talented.

He's the second coming of Darcy Tucker, but he doesn't have Tie Domi on a line to back him up.

 

Also, these games with more fights are entertaining as long as we don't have people trying to maim each other.

[TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0]

You'd think Andy Murray would expect that though, even if Avery was too dumb too.

This would have all been prevented if Andy had the nuts to dress a fucking enforcer. His no fighting shit is running thin when teams that are more physical than us can take runs at us all night and no one can put a stop to it. We wouldn't even been talking about this if he dressed an enforcer, because either Avery wouldn't have been on the ice at all and McGrattan would have squared off with the guy or Avery would have been out there with an enforcer and he would have had more help.

I feel your pain. Jacques Martin was our coach for a long time.

 

Matty Norstrom saved Avery's life tonight.

I found that funny. I kept thinking to myself "why is Norstrom of all people fighting?".

 

He's the second coming of Darcy Tucker, but he doesn't have Tie Domi on a line to back him up.

I'd say Tucker is much less annoying and a bit more talented. But yes, very similar players.

Edited December 3, 2005 by TheOriginalOrangeGoblin

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I feel your pain. Jacques Martin was our coach for a long time.

It was even like this when we had Laperriere, but it's going to change when Parros and Flinn come off the IR. I think he's going to dress both of them now.

 

I found that funny. I kept thinking to myself "why is Norstrom of all people fighting?"

I've never seen him fight. He's a quite guy, so he must have been extremely pissed off to even consider going after someone during that scrum at the middle of the game. By that point, I wanted LaBarbera to run across the ice and have a go with Emery.

 

I'd say Tucker is much less annoying and a bit more talented. But yes, very similar players.

Avery's talent is much overshadowed by his antics. He's an extremely fast skater and he's likely to put up 40 points this season. If you saw more of him, you would not only hate him more but also think that if he kept his mouth shut, he'd be recognized as a better player.

[TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0]

I've never seen him fight. He's a quite guy, so he must have been extremely pissed off to even consider going after someone during that scrum at the middle of the game. By that point, I wanted LaBarbera to run across the ice and have a go with Emery.

For LA's sake thank god that didn't happen. Emery would've put LaBarbera in the hospital. Emery is a REALLY good fighter.

 

Avery's talent is much overshadowed by his antics. He's an extremely fast skater and he's likely to put up 40 points this season. If you saw more of him, you would not only hate him more but also think that if he kept his mouth shut, he'd be recognized as a better player.

Give him credit, he makes Roenick looks like a quiet, upstanding gentleman.

Edited December 3, 2005 by TheOriginalOrangeGoblin

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For LA's sake thank god that didn't happen. Emery would've put LaBarbera in the hospital. Emery is a REALLY good fighter.

I want that to happen. Garon's starting to play really well and I'm getting sick of seeing them rotate every other game.

 

Give him credit, he makes Roenick looks like a quiet, upstanding gentleman.

I've met both. Roenick is definitely two-sided. He's been a great guy from every instance that I've seen him around other fans, but Avery is a fucking nutcase. I've posted in another thread that he was kicked out of his girlfriends son's hockey game for arguing a penalty called against the kid. It was a hooking call and he said the other kid dove. I'm starting to take a liking to him because he accomplishes his goal, and that's to piss everyone off. He's good at it.

 

Not to take anything away from Ottawa, but we should have scored two more times in the second period. We dominated.

Edited December 3, 2005 by Kingofthe909

[TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0]

I've met both. Roenick is definitely two-sided. He's been a great guy from every instance that I've seen him around other fans, but Avery is a fucking nutcase. I've posted in another thread that he was kicked out of his girlfriends son's hockey game for arguing a penalty called against the kid. It was a hooking call and he said the other kid dove. I'm starting to take a liking to him because he accomplishes his goal, and that's to piss everyone off. He's good at it.

 

Not to take anything away from Ottawa, but we should have scored two more times in the second period. We dominated.

Roenick is a good guy from what I hear and I like him. Just speaks his mind. I compare him to TO in the NFL, and yes I am a TO fan so it's a positive. And Avery does accomplish his goal but he needs to watch out, he's damn lucky McGratton got to him, not Chara.

 

Won't argue that you heavily outplayed us in period 2 but Hasek played well. As good as we've been all year, it annoys me how often Ottawa takes periods off.

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And Avery does accomplish his goal but he needs to watch out, he's damn lucky McGratton got to him, not Chara.

Chara did get to him early. He dragged Avery down in one of the scrums and was throwing heavy blows. Guess who saved him? Matty Norstrom.

 

Won't argue that you heavily outplayed us in period 2 but Hasek played well. As good as we've been all year, it annoys me how often Ottawa takes periods off.

The Kings haven't played well since the Colorado win. It's like once we beat Vancouver and Colorado, everything's been thrown into the shitter. The second period was exactly how they played 10 games prior to that, and incidentally it's the best they've played since Robitaille came back.

 

Guess who wasn't in the lineup tonight? Luc Robitaille.

 

I think Ottawa's a great team but against a physical team they could have a tougher time. I want to see these 2 teams in the finals badly. Every game would be competitive.

 

Also, if any of you saw the Score, you would have seen Bryan Murray and Kings announcer Jim Fox in a heated argument. This Ducks-Kings stuff must have some staying power.

Edited December 3, 2005 by Kingofthe909

[TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0]

Chara did get to him early. He dragged Avery down in one of the scrums and was throwing heavy blows. Guess who saved him? Matty Norstrom.

I saw that, could've been worse though.

 

The Kings haven't played well since the Colorado win. It's like once we beat Vancouver and Colorado, everything's been thrown into the shitter. The second period was exactly how they played 10 games prior to that, and incidentally it's the best they've played since Robitaille came back.

 

Guess who wasn't in the lineup tonight? Luc Robitaille.

That frustrated me. I've been a Lucky Luc fan since around 95 so I was saddened to see him scratched. Is he hurt?

 

I think Ottawa's a great team but against a physical team they could have a tougher time. I want to see these 2 teams in the finals badly. Every game would be competitive.

 

Also, if any of you saw the Score, you would have seen Bryan Murray and Kings announcer Jim Fox in a heated argument. This Ducks-Kings stuff must have some staying power.

Today's game was really entertaining so it would make a good final. But you underestimate Ottawa's toughness. We're not as man to man tough as Philly or, even, Toronto but we're so much faster our speed negates the size advantage. And wiht Murray coaching, I have no fear of us backing down. Hell he calls players out in the local paper after wins, let alone losses.

 

And sadly I missed that argument. Must've been a fun watch.

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That frustrated me. I've been a Lucky Luc fan since around 95 so I was saddened to see him scratched. Is he hurt?

He had a broken leg and came back recently. We play Montreal tomorrow night so I think Andy Murray wants to keep Luc rested for his last hurrah in Montreal. It's not official that it's his last season, but I'm pretty sure it is. I want to see Luc raise the Cup in a Kings uniform as he's my favorite player.

 

Today's game was really entertaining so it would make a good final. But you underestimate Ottawa's toughness. We're not as man to man tough as Philly or, even, Toronto but we're so much faster our speed negates the size advantage. And wiht Murray coaching, I have no fear of us backing down. Hell he calls players out in the local paper after wins, let alone losses.

I'm pretty sure that Ottawa and Chicago are the 2 toughest teams in the NHL but I think that the toughness of other teams leads to more physical play, which leads to a more even balance of scoring chances for both teams. As long as Hasek stands on his head this shouldn't be a problem.

 

And sadly I missed that argument. Must've been a fun watch.

The link doesn't work, so I'll just say he must really hate Bryan Murray. In all my time as a Kings fan I've never seen him get so animated and angry during a telecast. He usually doesn't venture to homerism as compared to other announcers, so this was definitely surprising to see from him.

Edited December 3, 2005 by Kingofthe909

[CanadianGuitarist 0]

That frustrated me. I've been a Lucky Luc fan since around 95 so I was saddened to see him scratched. Is he hurt?

He had a broken leg and came back recently. We play Montreal tomorrow night so I think Andy Murray wants to keep Luc rested for his last hurrah in Montreal. It's not official that it's his last season, but I'm pretty sure it is. I want to see Luc raise the Cup in a Kings uniform as he's my favorite player.

 

Today's game was really entertaining so it would make a good final. But you underestimate Ottawa's toughness. We're not as man to man tough as Philly or, even, Toronto but we're so much faster our speed negates the size advantage. And wiht Murray coaching, I have no fear of us backing down. Hell he calls players out in the local paper after wins, let alone losses.

I'm pretty sure that Ottawa and Chicago are the 2 toughest teams in the NHL but I think that the toughness of other teams leads to more physical play, which leads to a more even balance of scoring chances for both teams. As long as Hasek stands on his head this shouldn't be a problem.

 

And sadly I missed that argument. Must've been a fun watch.

The link doesn't work, so I'll just say he must really hate Bryan Murray. In all my time as a Kings fan I've never seen him get so animated and angry during a telecast. He usually doesn't venture to homerism as compared to other announcers, so this was definitely surprising to see from him.

 

 

I'd be great for Lucky to get a nice send-off in his hometown tonight.

 

But I'm still desparate to see the Habs win. This is their best chance in a while, with the Kings on back to back nights, 2000 miles from home, after a ridiculously physical game last night.

 

Intersting odds on the Flames tonight, who have lost 6 of their last 8 in Steeltown. Mind you, six of their last eight in Pittsburgh could easy include the pre Iginla era, and a Jagr-Mario-Kovalev-Straka lineup.

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This team is pathetic. At least after we play Carolina we get a favorable stretch.

[mike546 0]

Rangers got a well deserved ass kicking tonight. They really haven't been playing well latley, its rather shocking they'd won six in a row considering how lethargic they've been playing.

[Danville_Wrestling 0]

Toronto blows a first period 3-1 lead and lose to the revamped Sharks 5-4. This blowing first period lead crap is REALLY getting on my nerves, especially since the Leafs gave up THREE goals in the second.

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especially since the Leafs gave up THREE goals in the second.

This is good to know considering we play them next and we usually play our best in the second.

[Fartsauce 0]

The Oil blew a 3-0 lead and eventually lost 5-4 in overtime. Since the trade the Bruins are doing pretty well.

[The Czech Republic 0]

Er, ah, thank gawd we got ridda Joe Thorton! That was a good idear, O'Cawnell! What a wicked shitty captain anyway!

[Cartman 0]

To be fair, he WAS a shitty Captain...

 

Great player though. Just never should have been given the C by Ftorek.

[Fartsauce 0]

I only got in last night to catch the overtime and didn't see who is wearing the C now in Beantown. I would put it on Leetch.

[the max 0]

They don't have one that I can see.

 

Gill, Boynton and Leetch each had an 'A'. I think Gill will lose his when Murray comes back. I don't think they're going to have another captain this season.

[The Czech Republic 0]

Don't you need to have someone named as captain on the roster?

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

Rangers don't have one.

[The Czech Republic 0]

I thought for purposes of chatting with officials, you need to have a captain, and the alternates only can if the captain is not in uniform. Weak. Name a captain.

[mike546 0]

Jagr was asked to be, but he doesn't feel comfortable because he said his english isn't good enough, which isn't true. Basically, its the team bonding thing with the chemistry they have, with three assistant capians and no one captain.

[Cartman 0]

I strongly believe Leetch will be the new B's captain and it's a damn good choice too. I cant see them giving it to anyone else on that team right now. Especially not Boynton.

[the max 0]

If anything, I think they'll go to a rotating captaincy.

[Red Baron 0]

Its ashame you can't give the C to the Goalies these days.

[the max 0]

If you're talking about the Bruins, who would you give it to? Raycroft has not looked good and Toivonen is still a rookie.

 

The Bruin that I would consider putting the 'C' on is---Axelsson. He's been with the team for a while and has a very good work ethic. Plus, the other players seem to like him and respect his game. But, I don't think PJ will have as much as an 'A', so I think rotating captaincy is fine.

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I can think of one goalie that should get the C. Martin Brodeur.