WON Notes for Dec 6th issue

[Guest Duke_The_Dog]

Eddy:

 

Dave says that in 1996 the plan was in place to move the title from Flair to the Giant in a tag match (which happened) then Giant was to losr to Beniot via crossface tap out leading to a 3 way fued with Eddy vs Beniot vs Giant. This would be just before the NWO came about.

 

Paul Heyman's original plan in 1995 was to have Beniot win the ECW title and go on a long run culminating with ECW's 1st PPV in Jan 1996 headlined by Beniot vs Eddy

 

In 1998 in El Paso (Eddy's hometown) WCW Prez Eric B. got into an argument with Eddy and tossed coffee at him. Relations were strained for months after.

 

Eddy would get drunk very often and did GHB with Jericho among others.

 

Eddy once was drunk/angry and tried shooting on Kurt Angle in the locker room. Angle took him down and smothered him til it was broken up.

 

Mando and Eddy were hanging out after his NWO title win last Feb. Mando sarcastically was picking on Eddy and/or the match and Eddy was so pissed he didn't speak to Mando for a year.

 

Eddy was in such poor condition that he was told by a back specialist to retire in 2002, He had the back of a 70 or 80 year old.

 

Just weeks ago Eddy went to a doctor and the Doc was astounded Eddy was able to walk.

 

Eddy was using pain pills when he died, but was able to keep it under control.

 

Chavo was asking Eddy for help in getting out of the Kerwin White gimmick on the morning Eddy died

 

Eddy had been using HGH (Human Growth hormone) in an attempt to get bigger in recent months

 

Austin did go to Arizona for the funeral, but didn't go inside the church. He sttod outside by a hill by himself, cause "Austin doesn't do funerals"

 

Newz:

 

Jake Roberts has 7 kids and doesn't see any of them

 

Bret hart's still doing the Alladin play in Canada

 

Jim Neidhart was picked up for a DUI this week

 

Hogan taped a "hogan knows best" segment at Steve "The Fabulous Skinner" Kiern's wrestling school. He and Knobbs were training Nick Hogan on the sport.

 

The reason that WWE hasn't ran MSG lately and have no future dates is because MSG is charging a 285,000 rental fee and WWE isn't drawing enough that they can make money running there

 

Vince Russo and Shawn both take credit for the Sharpshooter spot at Montreal in their new books. Both lied.

 

Juventud is in trouble again: He wants his own talk show on SD!, Wants to feud with Rey jr and other upper carders, Wanted to have a mask vs mask match vs Rey...the agents pointed out Juvi isn't masked, Juvi thought for a moment and sais 'i'll wear one for the match. Eddy had been trying to settle Juvi down, to no avail.

Edited December 7, 2005 by Duke_The_Dog

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Eddy:

 

Dave says that in 1996 the plan was in place to move the title from Flair to the Giant in a tag match (which happened) then Giant was to losr to Beniot via crossface tap out leading to a 3 way fued with Eddy vs Beniot vs Giant. This would be just before the NWO came about.

You're reading it wrong. That was not the plan at all. Kevin Sullivan, who was the booker, was talking with Heyman, and Heyman laid out the program where Giant would defend against Benoit and Benoit would win by countering a chokeslam into the crossface. Benoit would then lose the belt to Gurrero, but not before injuring Guerrero with the crossface. Giant would then quickly get the belt back from Guerrero by taking advantage of the injury. It never happend, and was never the plan, because Sullivan wasn't keen on the idea and Bischoff felt Benoit and Guerrero were too small.

[Fartsauce 0]

I wonder when Juvi's 'Wrestler's Court" appearance is going to be set for.

[Guest Duke_The_Dog]

Eddy:

 

Dave says that in 1996 the plan was in place to move the title from Flair to the Giant in a tag match (which happened) then Giant was to losr to Beniot via crossface tap out leading to a 3 way fued with Eddy vs Beniot vs Giant. This would be just before the NWO came about.

You're reading it wrong. That was not the plan at all. Kevin Sullivan, who was the booker, was talking with Heyman, and Heyman laid out the program where Giant would defend against Benoit and Benoit would win by countering a chokeslam into the crossface. Benoit would then lose the belt to Gurrero, but not before injuring Guerrero with the crossface. Giant would then quickly get the belt back from Guerrero by taking advantage of the injury. It never happend, and was never the plan, because Sullivan wasn't keen on the idea and Bischoff felt Benoit and Guerrero were too small.

 

 

I was half asleep this morning when I read it and scribbled my notes.... sorry guys (Bad dog)

[Placebo Effect 0]

God I love Juvi.

 

There's plenty of interesting bits about Eddie in there too.

[Epic Reine 0]

Juventud is in trouble again: He wants his own talk show on SD!, Wants to feud with Rey jr and other upper carders, Wanted to have a mask vs mask match vs Rey...the agents pointed out Juvi isn't masked, Juvi thought for a moment and sais 'i'll wear one for the match. Eddy had been trying to settle Juvi down, to no avail.

 

He's The Juice damnit! Give him what he wants.

[The Amazing Rando 0]

Juventud is in trouble again: He wants his own talk show on SD!, Wants to feud with Rey jr and other upper carders, Wanted to have a mask vs mask match vs Rey...the agents pointed out Juvi isn't masked, Juvi thought for a moment and sais 'i'll wear one for the match. Eddy had been trying to settle Juvi down, to no avail.

 

He's The Juice damnit! Give him what he wants.

 

He won't go in front of Wrestler's Court...

 

 

HHH like-ahs the Juice.

[2GOLD 0]

Vince Russo and Shawn both take credit for the Sharpshooter spot at Montreal in their new books. Both lied.

 

Shocking. I bet Shawn's book is the best piece of fiction that money can buy. Second only to Harry Potter and Vince Russo's book

Edited December 7, 2005 by 2GOLD

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

Vince Russo and Shawn both take credit for the Sharpshooter spot at Montreal in their new books. Both lied.

 

Shocking. I bet Shawn's book is the best piece of fiction that money can buy. Second only to Harry Potter and Vince Russo's book

 

Don't forget Hogan's.

[The Metal Maniac 0]

HBK doesn't take credit for the Sharpshooter spot in his book. He says, quite plainly, that it was Bret's idea.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

HBK doesn't take credit for the Sharpshooter spot in his book. He says, quite plainly, that it was Bret's idea.

He's still lying.

[Matt Young 0]

Yeah, he says that it was Bret's idea but that it was Shawn's own idea to use that spot as the screwjob finish.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

If you want to know who really came up with the screwjob spot, then get ready for a long wait. Or a short one.

[Guest Duke_The_Dog]

I thought it was widely known that it was Brisco?

[Guest tony manero]

Wait, Jericho did GHB?

 

I thought he was always clean as a whistle.

 

Damn.

[Guest Brian]

I can't blame Austin personally, as I haven't attended a funeral or wake yet in my lifetime.

 

The reason that WWE hasn't ran MSG lately and have no future dates is because MSG is charging a 285,000 rental fee and WWE isn't drawing enough that they can make money running there

[Guest God Junior]

Eddy had been using HGH (Human Growth hormone) in an attempt to get bigger in recent months

I've noticed this before, but it still amazes me what the wrestling community considers "clean." Sure, he might not have been addicted, but taking drugs you have no need to take, even if you have it "under control," is still abuse. It seems like many or even most wrestlers don't consider things such as steroids, HGH, somas and painkillers to be "real drugs," as if taking them is just like drinking coffee.

Edited December 7, 2005 by God Junior

[Si82 0]

Hogan taped a "hogan knows best" segment at Steve "The Fabulous Skinner" Kiern's wrestling school. He and Knobbs were training Nick Hogan on the sport.

Poor kid.

[haVoc 0]

Eddy once was drunk/angry and tried shooting on Kurt Angle in the locker room. Angle took him down and smothered him til it was broken up.

 

Didn't this happen during Eddie's title reign? It happen after a match at the gorilla press when Angle got pissed at Eddie for screwing up a few spots in the ring during their match at a house show or TV taping.

[geniusMoment 0]

Eddy seemed like a real dick. Everyone praises him, but from all the stuff that has come out he seems like a major league asshole.

[nl5xsk1 0]

Like Brian pointed out, this is the most note-worthy one for me:

The reason that WWE hasn't ran MSG lately and have no future dates is because MSG is charging a 285,000 rental fee and WWE isn't drawing enough that they can make money running there

 

They can't even run in 'their house' ... geez, how can Vince ignore that whatever they're doing is NOT working?

 

Eddy seemed like a real dick. Everyone praises him, but from all the stuff that has come out he seems like a major league asshole.

Or a drug addict. Same difference.

[SuperJerk 0]

Eddy once was drunk/angry and tried shooting on Kurt Angle in the locker room. Angle took him down and smothered him til it was broken up.

 

Didn't this happen during Eddie's title reign? It happen after a match at the gorilla press when Angle got pissed at Eddie for screwing up a few spots in the ring during their match at a house show or TV taping.

 

That's what I'm thinking as well.

Eddy seemed like a real dick. Everyone praises him, but from all the stuff that has come out he seems like a major league asshole.

 

I'm sure he did do a lot of stuff that we could consider "asshole" behavior before he cleaned himself up. Of course, we also have heard about the incident with Angle and stuff with fans that happened in the last 2 years. It is possible Eddie was a really nice guy 99% of the time, but had a really bad temper the other 1%.

[Guest Duke_The_Dog]

I wonder when Juvi's 'Wrestler's Court" appearance is going to be set for.

 

Taker's not full time, so JBL must be playing judge now...

[iliketurtles 0]

Jericho doing GHB surprises me too.

[SuperJerk 0]

Looks like we were all correct when we guessed Eddie was going to win the title the day he died. Makes it even sadder.

[cameron chaos 0]

In 1998 in El Paso (Eddy's hometown) WCW Prez Eric B. got into an argument with Eddy and tossed coffee at him. Relations were strained for months after.

Wasn't this the reason he thrw coffee over himself when he first got on the mic to form the LWO?

 

Eddy once was drunk/angry and tried shooting on Kurt Angle in the locker room. Angle took him down and smothered him til it was broken up.

I think this happened after a SD taping. The week before he'd had a go at Luther Reigns and Kurt for blowing his entrance. Even though it was down to Eddy Kurt and Luther apologised to keep the peace. Then the next week I think they had a match and a spot got blown, which led to Eddy blowing up at Kurt backstage so he just got Kurt just pinned him until agents came along and broke things up.

 

Mando and Eddy were hanging out after his NWO title win last Feb. Mando sarcastically was picking on Eddy and/or the match and Eddy was so pissed he didn't speak to Mando for a year.

Damn. Slight overreaction?

 

Eddy was in such poor condition that he was told by a back specialist to retire in 2002, He had the back of a 70 or 80 year old.

Just weeks ago Eddy went to a doctor and the Doc was astounded Eddy was able to walk.

So much for wrestlers learning to "take bumps" and "protect each other".

 

Eddy had been using HGH (Human Growth hormone) in an attempt to get bigger in recent months

That explains the backne and brow.

 

Austin did go to Arizona for the funeral, but didn't go inside the church. He sttod outside by a hill by himself, cause "Austin doesn't do funerals"

That's pretty stupid.

 

Newz:

 

Hogan taped a "hogan knows best" segment at Steve "The Fabulous Skinner" Kiern's wrestling school. He and Knobbs were training Nick Hogan on the sport.

Could yo get worse teachers?

 

The reason that WWE hasn't ran MSG lately and have no future dates is because MSG is charging a 285,000 rental fee and WWE isn't drawing enough that they can make money running there

Ha! Evicted for failing to pay rent.

 

Vince Russo and Shawn both take credit for the Sharpshooter spot at Montreal in their new books. Both lied.

I thought Patterson did that.

 

Juventud is in trouble again: He wants his own talk show on SD!, Wants to feud with Rey jr and other upper carders, Wanted to have a mask vs mask match vs Rey...the agents pointed out Juvi isn't masked, Juvi thought for a moment and sais 'i'll wear one for the match. Eddy had been trying to settle Juvi down, to no avail.

Tremendous.

[Naked Snake 0]

Jericho doing GHB surprises me too.

 

 

I can name a few wrestlers that party a lot and you'd be surprised. I work as a nightclub promoter in Toronto, and a lot of wrestlers will call the club owner I work for and ask to party at his place. I've seen Jericho polish off a bottle of Crown Royal by himself and still stand.

 

A lot of wrestlers "party". It's nothing new.

[pochorenella 0]

Eddy once was drunk/angry and tried shooting on Kurt Angle in the locker room. Angle took him down and smothered him til it was broken up.

I think this happened after a SD taping. The week before he'd had a go at Luther Reigns and Kurt for blowing his entrance. Even though it was down to Eddy Kurt and Luther apologised to keep the peace. Then the next week I think they had a match and a spot got blown, which led to Eddy blowing up at Kurt backstage so he just got Kurt just pinned him until agents came along and broke things up.

 

Didn't Eddie celebrate his four year anniversary of being sober recently? Either this incident happened before he got fired (2001) or Eddie wasn't completely alcohol-free as he and Chavo stated. Or maybe that incident didn't happen as described.

[Guest Gary Busey]

I don't think Eddie was drunk when he and Angle fought. They had a lot of tension between them if I remember correctly and it all just came to blows after things didn't go 100% smooth in the ring.

[Dangerous A 0]

Eddie wasn't drunk during the Angle incident, but his so called sobriety has come into question. Depends on your definition of sobriety I guess but if your definition is completely not using painkillers and alcohol, then Eddie was not.