OAO 12/17 Impact Thread

[Conspiracy_Victim 0]

So Jeff Jarrett is forming NWO TNA?

[Downhome 0]

So Jeff Jarrett is forming NWO B-Team?

 

 

Yes.

 

Yes he is.

[Conspiracy_Victim 0]

So Jeff Jarrett is forming NWO B-Team?

 

 

Yes.

 

Yes he is.

 

Edited for factual accuracy I guess. It works though.

 

Is Monty Brown a tweener? I always thought that career tweeners wouldn't work because fans wouldn't know how to react to him.

[Conspiracy_Victim 0]

COULD IT BE?! A BUNCH OF RANDOM IMAGES?! THIS IS THE GREATEST NIGHT IN THE HISTORY OF OUR SPORT!

 

It's still good to see Christian in a main event feud.

[SuperJerk 0]

Sting's sure earning that $500,000 so far.

[Astro101 0]

It's over already? Damn, TNA really needs another hour. Good show, tonight.

 

If they're really going for this "war" storyline, I think it should be good. I always love company wide angles.....til it draws out too long.

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I'm not sure where I stand on this "should Impact be 2 hours" question....it seems like their talent pool isn't deep enough to sustain 2 hours a week without repetitive match-ups. And "Leave them wanting more" is a good rule of thumb. Still, 4 hours of weeklly programming to build to a 3 hour PPV isn't enough.

[Downhome 0]

From a casual TNA viewer, and someone who only really started watching when Impact hit Spike TV, here is a quick thought:

 

The ending of the show just now really said a lot to me. On one side we have Sting, the Dudley Boyz, Christian, and Rhino, all of which are pretty famous guys. Sting is considered by many, especially former WCW viewers, as one of the all time greats. The Dudley Boyz are considered by most as one of the all time greatest tag teams of at least the past decade. Then Christian and Rhino are looked at as two guys who have hit the big time and are breakout stars of the near future.

 

Over on the other side we have Jeff Jarrett, Team Canada, AMW, Abyss, and Monty Brown. There aren't too many people out there who are terribly fond of JJ, although there are fans of his out there, I'm guilty of that to an extent. Most, if not all, casual viewers have no clue who TC is. The same could be said about AMW. Heck, the same can be said about Monty, and I'm not so sure that fans are taking to Monty as much as TNA would like them to. I personally don't see the big deal with the guy. Then Abyss, while not known, most seem to really enjoy him.

 

To a brand new TNA viewer, I can see how this feud wouldn't really interest them all that much or seem too important. It's not just the name value thing either. A lot of it has to do with character development, and we simply haven't see a lot of that.

 

I'm not sure where I stand on this "should Impact be 2 hours" question....it seems like their talent pool isn't deep enough to sustain 2 hours a week without repetitive match-ups. And "Leave them wanting more" is a good rule of thumb. Still, 4 hours of weeklly programming to build to a 3 hour PPV isn't enough.

 

-They have about 45 minutes of TV a week after commercials.

 

-This company is, stupidly, trying to promote a PPV every single month using only around 180 minutes of TV.

 

-The guys on the roster have a lot to offer, but almost no time to promote for a PPV, many are left off and not really given a chance to shine.

 

-Even those who are given time, while we may see them in matches week after week, there isn't enough time for promos, video packages, and overall character development.

 

-I don't see why too many people should care about too many of the feuds that we even see, considering that there isn't much build to a lot of the matches.

 

 

There's no question that they need at least two hours of TV a week, and even that isn't enough for a PPV every single month in my opinion.

[Astro101 0]

They could probably add maybe 2 more matches and make the ones they usually do longer, which is what we want from the X matches anyway. Guys like The Naturals, Chris Sabin, Roderick Strong, Austin Aries...they can have stuff to do to keep themselves in the fans' minds each week.

 

To a brand new TNA viewer, I can see how this feud wouldn't really interest them all that much or seem too important.

 

I see your point. Perhaps TNA thinks that 3 months of exposure of TNA is good enough to warrant this feud. Better do it now than when these "newer additions" have been with TNA for a year and it doesn't make sense.

Edited December 18, 2005 by Astro101

[Downhome 0]

I see your point. Perhaps TNA thinks that 3 months of exposure of TNA is good enough to warrant this feud. Better do it now than when these "newer additions" have been with TNA for a year and it doesn't make sense.

 

It hardly even makes sense to me. The angle seems to be, to me, the long time TNA members vs. all of these new guys from WWE/etc..., but the apparent "invaders" are the faces, and the actual TNA vets are the heels. With that setup, why in the world would fans who just started watching three months ago care at all about the heels in this feud? A feud like this is fine, but a little more time should have been given to getting the fans used to the normal TNA guys. They could have at least done a bit more in those three months to really get that heel team over with the new viewers.

[Astro101 0]

Well, AMW, Jarrett, Canada, Monty Brown, Abyss...they've pretty much been on every program.

[Astro101 0]

Well, AMW, Jarrett, Canada, Monty Brown, Abyss...they've pretty much been on every program.

[Guest Rage676]

Is it just me, or does D-Von's ringwork greatly outclass Bubba's?

 

Also, I'm pretty sure it was Earl Hebner. I think Dave is the young one.

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That doesn't mean that they have been exposed enough so that the casual viewer cares about them.

 

Most people that I know who watch the show, and are new TNA viewers, always tell me that they love the X division style since it's work that they have almost never seen anywhere else, and they say they like seeing a lot of the big names, even if it's someone as minor as Jeff Hardy, just as long as they had see them somewhere else before.

 

They really need to work on the characters and storylines, big time.

[Astro101 0]

It was Dave Hebner.

[Guest Coffey]

Sting's sure earning that $500,000 so far.

His contract isn't until 2006. He's not getting paid until 2006. He won't be on TV until 2006.

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Alex Shelley vs. Matt Bentley. Which is the face? I guess it's Bentley. Although that's just because he's got Tracey.

 

"That's not important. Because this is TNA and we're fucking retarded at times."

 

Rhino gives awful interviews when half his words aren't bleeped. I guess you can say he's improved though.

 

I want someone to just start laughing at the same time Douglas does, and then Douglas give a double take.

 

I don't think they're really doing TNA Invaders vs. Originals. I think that was just for the purpose of the promo. While it may come up every so often, this is more of a commonly-alligned heel group vs. commonly-alligned face group, and I LOVED that main event segment for the most part.

 

Monty's growl was the gayest thing ever, and I hated him alligning with Jarrett.

 

For the most part, great show.

[razazteca 0]

Is it just me, or does D-Von's ringwork greatly outclass Bubba's?

TESTIFY! Brother Devon is starting to look like Ahmed Johnson. [ joel gertner]From the Southern Baptist Church of Deadleeville he is.....svet, chisled, smooth, and jakkkkkkkkk'd 235 lbs. Brother Devon[/joel gertner]

Edited December 18, 2005 by razazteca

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I see your point. Perhaps TNA thinks that 3 months of exposure of TNA is good enough to warrant this feud. Better do it now than when these "newer additions" have been with TNA for a year and it doesn't make sense.

 

It hardly even makes sense to me. The angle seems to be, to me, the long time TNA members vs. all of these new guys from WWE/etc..., but the apparent "invaders" are the faces, and the actual TNA vets are the heels. With that setup, why in the world would fans who just started watching three months ago care at all about the heels in this feud? A feud like this is fine, but a little more time should have been given to getting the fans used to the normal TNA guys. They could have at least done a bit more in those three months to really get that heel team over with the new viewers.

The heels get their importance in this feud because their the one's holding all the belts. New viewers want to see the faces win the belts, so they care for that reason. So long as the belts are made to look important, the feud should work.

 

The thing about Jeff Jarrett is that, despite the fact every bitches about him, he's the only heel they've got that can consistently get heel heat. The crowd was shouting "boring" at him before he even started talking. That's not X-Pac heat. That's legit "we hate you and we'll pay money to see you get your ass kicked" heat.

 

It'd also make more since to me if TNA did 1 hour of TV a week, and only did a PPV every 2 months. I don't think their roster is strong enough to sustain 2 hours of good TV every single week.

 

One big thing that attracts me to TNA is that at NO TIME during that program last night did I say to myself "this is stupid" or "I can't believe they just did that" (in a bad way). I ordered some of their weekly PPVs, and watched a couple of times on FSN, and have followed the results, but I've never really been much of a TNA fan until they acquired guys from WWE like Christian and the Dudley Boys. I'm a pretty happy viewer when I watch Impact. Its not the best wrestling show I've ever seen, by any means, but its so much better than the repetive garbage that WWE spews out for 4 hours every week. I actually look forward to watching Impact. I can't say that about Raw or Smackdown.

[Guest Prodigy]

Two hours might be too much for TNA to have a quality show every week, but I think 90 minutes would be best to at least give the matches more time to develop.

[CheesalaIsGood 0]

Two hours might be too much for TNA to have a quality show every week, but I think 90 minutes would be best to at least give the matches more time to develop.

 

 

Thats sounds about the right amount of time for them at this point. It would be a really hard sell to the network seeing that TV is so locked into a certain format that 90 minutes would seem so odd to them. Like they would have to change the way they sold advertising or some such horseshit.

[razazteca 0]

Two hour show would work if TNA:

1. Announce time limits for the matches 15, 30, remaining tv time, etc.
2. Make the squash matches 5 minutes instead 90 second punch kick spot
3. Give some interview, promo, vignette time to the people who need it

[SuperJerk 0]

Give some interview, promo, vignette time to the people who need it

Hell, Raw might even work if they did THAT.

[razazteca 0]

Only the super team of Columbo & Mattlock can solve the mystery that is the Jeff Jarrett main event and why he is affraid of scorpions.

[CubbyBr 0]

I really hope that the Konnan/Truth segment was a sign that they're finally gonna push Ron Killings, one of the best talkers/workers on the roster, into the main event. I'd love to see them do a thing where the war is going on between the Jarrett's crew and the Invaders/Sting and Killings can kinda be the lone wolf like Sting used to be during the WCW vs. nWo feud.

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

Watching this replay I have the perfect gimmick for Jarrett. Everytime something goes wrong in his life, no matter how big or small, he goes up to Tenay and bitches at him and asks him what's wrong.

 

"Tenay, Tenay my car won't start why is that. You're The Professor tell me. Look under the hood." "Tenay my tooth is hurting. Why is that? Tell me Tenay." etc.

Edited December 20, 2005 by EdwardKnoxII

[razazteca 0]

Tenay should make silly faces everytime Jeff Jarrett asks a question.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Tenay should make silly faces everytime Jeff Jarrett asks a question.

 

I'd rather Tenay put Jarrett in the Mandible Claw, but that's just me.

[Adam 0]

Question... how about two one-hour shows? Perhaps an hour Thursday nights and an hour on Saturday nights? It'd give a good space out for guys who don't get a spot on one show, and it'd allow them to build angles even more. I'd be quite happy with two one-hour slots.

[claydude14 0]

Two one-hour shows, even based on the time slots they have now (Sat and the midnight Mon replay) could equal out to the 90 minute medium we all seem to want. Both Mon and Sat would have to briefly recap the show before it, which will take so much time, however compared to a straight up replay we get more faces on TV each week. I think that could be the most realistic at this point and best option we could get.