Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 What a fucked up finish and im sure there will be a big deal made about the players being on the field. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 Uh wow that was about as close to the Stanford band play as you'll get. So time for Lloyd Carr to update his resume? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 You know, I hate Michigan more than believable but they got reamed in the ass all game long. That would have been hilarious if the Wolverines had scored that play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 Fucking awful. Absolutely fucking awful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UZI Suicide 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 What a fucked up finish and im sure there will be a big deal made about the players being on the field. With good reason, that should be a penalty. But then again, Michigan got buttfucked by calls the entire game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 (edited) Fucking awful. Absolutely fucking awful That doesn't cover half of it. I liked how Trico and Herbie were just laughing in disbelief at the bad calls after being royally pissed early on. I mean, Michigan lost two time-outs for plays that should have been reviewed without question and THEN they lose about 15 seconds when the official just says "fuck it, we don't need to set the ball yet. Michigan has their schedule, I have mine". And no, no flag at the end. There were Michigan players and coaches on the field as well. Edited December 29, 2005 by 2GOLD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 (edited) Here is what I want to know, the play was still alive right? Why did the Michigan player with the ball last run on the sideline when the ENTIRE field was open completely. He had two defenders within him and he went towards them. I'm not saying it would made a difference but it was just something I noticed re-watching the final play. Edited December 29, 2005 by Hawk 34 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 I'm partial to the Big XII and all but holy shit what a horribly officiated game. As much as I want the Big XII to do good in the bowls I also want to see Bill Callahan crash and burn. Also it probably would've been one of the funniest things ever if Michigan scored off that. And what about Callahan after the game? "Duhhhhhh........I didn't know what happened! I guess we won! Duh....." And let's see what else was wrong: -pass interference on Michigan's last pass. obvious interference at that -that call on the Nebraska punt coverage. then he makes the EXACT same play and they don't call it. WTF? I don't care which way they call it but at least call it consistently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 The refs sucked, but I think there were a couple cases where the announcers were unfairly piling on. First, the second time Carr called a timeout to get a replay looked at. IIRC, the booth looks at every play and only buzzes down if they need more time. Maybe they looked at the first replay, realized there was nothing there to overturn the call and did not feel the need to call a replay time out. Then once Carr called TO they figured they can look again for his sake, but unnecessarily. Second, the last play. There should have been offsetting penalties. So it isn't like it hurt Michigan since they didn't score anyway, plus do they even get a 0:00 free play if there are offsetting penalties and not just a defensive penalty? Yes, the refs sucked and there should be enough major conference refs to handle all major conference games, but it's not like they ruined the whole game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 History 2004: Navy 34, New Mexico 19 2003: Boston College 35, Colorado State 21 2002: #22 Virginia Tech 20, Air Force 13 #24 Georgia Tech (7-4) Last Bowl Appearance: 2004 Champs Sports Bowl (def. Syracuse 51-14) All ACC Players First Team Calvin Johnson, Wide Receiver Second Team P.J. Daniels, Running Back Eric Henderson, Defensive End Gerris Wilkinson, Linebacker Dawan Landry, Safety Utah (6-5) Last Bowl Appearance: 2005 Fiesta Bowl (def. Pittsburgh 35-7) All Mountain West Players First Team Jesse Boone, Center Dan Beardall, Kicker Steve Fifita, Defensive Tackle Spencer Toone, Linebacker Erick Weddle, Cornerback Second Team Brian Johnson, Quarterback Quinton Ganther, Running Back Tavo Tupola, Tackle Casey Evans, Safety Recent History 2004: #22 Texas Tech 45, #5 California 31 2003: #16 Washington State 28, #6 Texas 20 2002: #8 Kansas State 34, Arizona State 27 2001: #7 Texas 47, #15 Washington 43 2000: #10 Oregon 35, #12 Texas 30 1999: #6 Kansas State 24, Washington 20 1998: #7 Arizona 23, #11 Nebraska 20 #5 Oregon (10-1) Last Bowl Appearance: 2003 Sun Bowl (lost to Minnesota 30-31) Last Bowl Win: 2002 Fiesta Bowl (def. Colorado 38-16) All Pac-10 Players First Team Haloti Ngata, Defensive Tackle Justin Phinisee, Cornerback Second Team Demetrius Williams, Wide Receiver Enoka Lucas, Center Anthony Trucks, Linebacker Aaron Gipson, Cornerback J.D. Nelson, Safety #23 Oklahoma (7-4) Last Bowl Appearance: 2005 Orange Bowl (lost to USC 19-55) Last Bowl Win: 2003 Rose Bowl (def. Washington State 34-14) All Big XII Players First Team Adrian Peterson, Running Back J.D. Runnels, Fullback Davin Joseph, Tackle Dusty Dovracek, Defensive Tackle Rufus Alexander, Linebacker Second Team Travis Wilson, Wide Receiver Calvin Thibodeaux, Defensive End Clint Ingram, Linebacker Chijioke Onyenegecha, Cornerback Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted December 29, 2005 Instead of the Emerald Bowl, it should be the Nut Bowl. And when is that poor bowl finally going to be cancelled? It always looks empty in San Fran. Holiday Bowl should be a blast. Oregon, please win by 50 or more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 I feel bad for GT. I think they deserve a better bowl than that. I would say that I'm excited for the Holiday Bowl but that'd be a lie. OU's pass defense is so piss poor in my eyes that I just don't think they can stop Oregon. On top of that OU lost its O-Coordinator so the O-Line coach will be taking over duties for this game and honestly the only way for OU to win on offense is to use AD and I know Oregon is going to be waiting for it b/c they've felt the wrath of AD before. I just drew a parallel between OU and Michigan. Michigan has lost 3 bowl games in a row and two straight to the Big XII. OU is about to lose it's third straight bowl game and two straight to the Pac 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ANKLELOCK 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 Two good bowl games today, with the Alamo being borderline great, IMO. The bowl lineups get progressively better from here on out and I can't wait for the Rose Bowl. It just seems odd not having that Tennessee bowl game to look forward too, but they deserve it, damned Randy Sanders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted December 29, 2005 I played against Eric Weddle, first team All Mountain West. Utah will win the game, but I'll take solace in that I got a few good hits on him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 I feel bad for GT. I think they deserve a better bowl than that. I would say that I'm excited for the Holiday Bowl but that'd be a lie. OU's pass defense is so piss poor in my eyes that I just don't think they can stop Oregon. On top of that OU lost its O-Coordinator so the O-Line coach will be taking over duties for this game and honestly the only way for OU to win on offense is to use AD and I know Oregon is going to be waiting for it b/c they've felt the wrath of AD before. I just drew a parallel between OU and Michigan. Michigan has lost 3 bowl games in a row and two straight to the Big XII. OU is about to lose it's third straight bowl game and two straight to the Pac 10. I've got a way better parallel for you. Nebraska is a Big XII team that looked like an embarrassment at one point, but finished the season strong (destroying Colorado), and then beat a heavy favorite in their bowl game. Oklahoma is a Big XII team that looked like an embarrassment at one point, but finished the season strong (would have won their last 6 if not for a bad call vs. Texas Tech), and will likely beat a heavily favored Oregon team int heir bowl game. Seriously, I think the Sooners take this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 On Cold Pizza this AM they pointed out several holding non-calls against Michigan during their hook and ladder sequence so the players being on the field early wouldn't matter anyway. They should have offset and given Michigan one last play from the original line of scrimmage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 What was even worse was that Nebraska looked like they didn't even care that Michigan was rumbling down the field with that ball. If it wasn't for Bowman having a head on his shoulders they would have lost! Speaking of OU finishing strong(should've beaten Tech god damn you refs) they really do need AD in this game and I don't think anybody can deny that. I just wonder if he'll have a chance to make a big play. I mean against Nebraska he drug a defender into the endzone for about 5 yards, against Texas Tech he fucking HURLED a defender out of bounds when the defender came in to tackle him, and against OSU he had TD runs of 73 and 82 untouched. He needs to do something like that to even have a shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 I don't blame the players so much, they were caught up in the moment...they thought the play was over when the Michigan guy muffed the ball and dropped it...I blame coaches for not paying attention (Callahan was busy taking a gatorade bath when he shoulda been watching) and keeping their players on the sidelines and of course, the stupid refs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 Callahan's an idiot. If Michigan had won I was waiting for ESPN to declare Henne the player of the game, future of Michigan football, and a frontrunner for the Heisman. He really didn't play that bad of a game. He accounted for all 4 of Michigan's TDs. But Avant has got to be killing himself over that fumble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted December 29, 2005 Is Oregon or Oklahoma the home team tonight? I hope Oregon doesn't bust out an ugly jersey. I want to enjoy watching them beatdown OU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 Generally the higher ranked team is the home team. I picked Oregon for our pick em' contest at the paper but the guy I'm fighting for first picked Oregon as well. I actually need Texas Tech and Georgia to win to take the contest at work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C Dubya 04 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 I could see Ok. pulling off the upset tonight. I think that Oregon could have a what happens to good teams that go to the NIT happen to them. Letdown instead of getting angry over a snub. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 Florida State has sent home linebacker A.J. Nicholson after being accused of rape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 I could see Ok. pulling off the upset tonight. I think that Oregon could have a what happens to good teams that go to the NIT happen to them. Letdown instead of getting angry over a snub. Oregon was favored by like 10 and it's come all the way down to 3. I can't remember who said it I think it was either Herbstreit or Holtz that pointed out that yeah Cal got mad and got beat but the reasone he doesn't think that will happen to Oregon is because of who they're playing. I mean Texas Tech's name doesn't inspire fear in anyone. But off of pure name value alone Oregon should be thinking "oh shit we're playing Oklahoma. this is big." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nogoodnick 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 Oklahoma shouldve won that Texas Tech game. If they had beaten TCU as well do you think they wouldve been in the BCS at 10-2 (with losses to UCLA and Texas? Rumor has it that Oregon might bust out an all new jersey for the bowl game, posssibly with the different color sleeve that VT and Florida wore earlier this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 I could see Ok. pulling off the upset tonight. I think that Oregon could have a what happens to good teams that go to the NIT happen to them. Letdown instead of getting angry over a snub. Oregon was favored by like 10 and it's come all the way down to 3. I can't remember who said it I think it was either Herbstreit or Holtz that pointed out that yeah Cal got mad and got beat but the reasone he doesn't think that will happen to Oregon is because of who they're playing. I mean Texas Tech's name doesn't inspire fear in anyone. But off of pure name value alone Oregon should be thinking "oh shit we're playing Oklahoma. this is big." What you're missing is that Oregon's nowhere near as good as Cal was. That Cal team was one incomplete pass from beating USC and playing for the national title. Oregon hasn't beaten a Top 25 team all year long. The talent disparity between Oregon and Oklahoma is so slim that it can easily be overcome by matchups, regardless of motivation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 Oklahoma shouldve won that Texas Tech game. If they had beaten TCU as well do you think they wouldve been in the BCS at 10-2 (with losses to UCLA and Texas? Rumor has it that Oregon might bust out an all new jersey for the bowl game, posssibly with the different color sleeve that VT and Florida wore earlier this season. Not with so many one loss teams out there. But I mean this current OU team would eat TCU alive and they should've beaten Texas Tech. And if Bomar didn't have so many exchange problems with the center and Peterson was healthy then OU would've probably beaten UCLA. So they could very well be 10-1 or 11-1 with this young team. The whole campus is excited that OU is going to rule next season. I think they'll still have trouble with Texas and A&M at A&M. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted December 29, 2005 Cal didn't beat anyone in the Top 25, either... except for ASU who was like 20th. I'm not seeing how Cal is so much better because of that. And apparently Oregon is debuting another ugly jersey. Blah. Go Ducks, anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted December 29, 2005 But I mean this current OU team would eat TCU alive and they should've beaten Texas Tech. And that TCU team is probably also significantly better, since they lost to SMU after beating your heroes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nogoodnick 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2005 If Oregon loses I doubt it will be because of the BCS letdown. It will be because Oklahoma was probably just a better team. Oklahoma probably has the 2nd most talented players Oregon has faced this season. I guess by the same token the Ducks are the 2nd most talented team OU will face as well. Oregon has shown that they can give up the run and win (Marshawn Lynch dropped 195 yds rushing). Im guessing this matchup comes down to QB play. If theyre debuting the jersey I saw it looks pretty bad ass. At least compared to their other unis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites