Fökai 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2006 Well, like you mentioned, it fit the anti-American gimmick, so you can excuse it being renamed to the Maple Leaf Crab. And besides, he did have a different transition to the move (rolling leg hook into crab). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2006 It's poorly described, but I think the idea was that when Jericho slapped on the move, the opponent/his back would collapse like the Walls of Jericho, or that's how I've heard it explained(quite possibly on this board) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just John 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2006 And The Walls of Jericho SUCKS. Lion Tamer was better, as at least it made the move seem a little more punishing (as in it's painful enough to tame a lion), but really...the Walls of Jericho? They fell down. That means the move doesn't work. The Walls of Jericho only fell by the power of god. And it's a nifty little play on his name anyway, so I don't mind it. Better than Lion Tamer since he doesn't go by Lionheart anymore. I still wish he did the move LT style, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2006 Speaking of which, he still had the lionsault when all other lion references were gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DuDe Report post Posted January 3, 2006 "Stunner" is a totally inappropriate name for a finisher. So it like, eh, stuns an opponent? Oh, no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jack Potts Report post Posted January 3, 2006 Keeping with the theme, after the debut of the "mama" gimmick for Shelton Benjamin on the 1/2/06 episode of Raw, he should rename his Exploder Suplex the "Mama Said Knock You Out." Anyone? Anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2006 "Stunner" is a totally inappropriate name for a finisher. So it like, eh, stuns an opponent? Oh, no. Actually, a "stunner" is perfect for wrestling, even though it's sold completely wrong. All you need is for an opponent to not be able to get his shoulders up by a 3 count. You don't need to KO a person necessarily. The problem occurs when people sell a "Stunner" as a KO move Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benoit4hor 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2006 The STFU, whoever thought of that needs to STFU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2006 Why? He already has the FU, the STF+FU = STFU. = Shut the fuck up. Works for me. What does STF stand for? Side toehold facelock? DDT meant nothing and it worked. I think most geographical move names sort of suck. The Pittsburgh Plunge was an awesome, awesome move with a shitty name. Greetings from Asbury Park had an appropriately shitty name for one of the most poorly executed finishers in history. No one cares where you're from. Remember when JR/announcers in general explained moves? I just remember his explanation of the stunner being a 'controversial' move that drove his shoulder into the opponents' thorats, making them windless for the time it took to pin them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Young 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2006 Why? He already has the FU, the STF+FU = STFU. = Shut the fuck up. Works for me. What does STF stand for? Side toehold facelock? Stepover toehold w/ facelock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RepoMan 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2006 Keeping with the theme, after the debut of the "mama" gimmick for Shelton Benjamin on the 1/2/06 episode of Raw, he should rename his Exploder Suplex the "Mama Said Knock You Out." Anyone? Anyone? I would mark out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2006 I'm sure there's no shortage of terrible Mom names. The Mammer Jammer. They could call it the Mother Fucker on PPV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2006 I interpreted stunner to be in reference to the way he would hit it without warning, as opposed to the physical effect on his opponents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DuDe Report post Posted January 4, 2006 "Stunner" is a totally inappropriate name for a finisher. So it like, eh, stuns an opponent? Oh, no. Actually, a "stunner" is perfect for wrestling, even though it's sold completely wrong. Yeah, sure, if pro-wrestling was actually real Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cameron chaos 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2006 The Canadian Destroyer, given the old war ships of the same name were considered to be virtually unstoppable, is pretty good IMO given how it is touted as the most dangerous move in TNA. Considering WWE used to promote Hardcore Holly as a bar brawler I think the Alabama Slammer fits even if it's not the best name out there. Greetings from Asbury Park had an appropriately shitty name for one of the most poorly executed finishers in history. No one cares where you're from. I think he got the name from the Bruce Springsteen album. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2006 Why? He already has the FU, the STF+FU = STFU. = Shut the fuck up. Works for me. Temporary partial thread-jack ... What was the FU called before the Cena/Lesnar feud? I know the FU was a play on the F5 name ... did it have a name before that, though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fook Report post Posted January 4, 2006 The feud with Lesner was the first time he used the move, so it's always been the FU. I don't remember what he used as a finisher beforehand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2006 Death Valley Driver during the feud with Eddie Guerrero, and just a roll-up or the Proto-Bomb (Blue Thunder Bomb) before then. And I guess I'm the only one who likes the name of Greetings From Asbury Park. It's so different that I dig it. EDIT: Oh, and the name for the DDT does make sense. Jake explained it on his DVD: "DDT...it's a rat poison. The moment a rat ate it, BAM! It dropped dead. The moment I hit the DDT the match was over. It made sense to me." And after watching old-school Jake Roberts footage of the DDT...still the best DDT in the business, with only Raven's coming close. Wasn't a protected face-bump, a full-on headbump, and he actually gave Ricky Steamboat a concussion nailing it on the concrete floor at ringside. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2006 The feud with Lesner was the first time he used the move, so it's always been the FU. I don't remember what he used as a finisher beforehand. Malibu would know for sure, but I think it was the Protoplex--the spin-out powerbomb that is the "Freestyle" now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2006 Wasn't DDT actually an insecticide? Works either way. And sounds pretty cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoff 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2006 I had always thought that the F5 was a weak name. Like, I get it, because it's a tornado spin, ha ha...boo. I would have liked "Brockbuster." I dunno, is that lame? It always sounded cool to me. Especially with Heyman as his agent. *shrug* I've never been high on the name "Styles Clash." It's a reference to "style clash," which doesn't make sense, or am I missing something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just John 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2006 I would have liked "Brockbuster." I dunno, is that lame? Yes. Another one I don't get is Eye of the Hurricane. Isn't the eye supposed to be calm and non-destructive? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fook Report post Posted January 5, 2006 Most finishers that go by [wrestler's name]bomb/splash/slam/etc. are bad names. eg. Batista Bomb, Earthquake Splash, Bossman Slam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoff 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2006 It is NOT lame. Not worse than the F5, anyway. How many people know the tornado rating system, anyway? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2006 Anybody that's ever watched the news after a tornado wrecks middle America. Or has seen Twister. Or any other movie with a tornado in it. So we're looking at a pretty decent percentage of the fanbase that understands an F5 is a big fucking tornado. And yes, DDT actually was an insecticide. Jake was quoted as saying it was a rat poison, though, so maybe it was then turned into a rat poison. Or maybe he was thinking rat poison and the only poison he could come up with was DDT. Either way, a good name for a move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2006 (edited) I really like a lot of the Japanese move names. Iconoclasm. Northern Lights Bomb. Burning Hammer. Chimera Suplex is pretty brilliant (it's a combination of Tiger, Dragon and German suplexes) Diamondhead. I dunno about Emerald Frosion. If it's meant to be Emerald Fusion, it's pretty great. Emerald Erosion? Lame. Make your own Japanese move! *) Optional: Pick a color! A) Pick one or more from the following: Phoenix/Tiger/Dragon/Fire/Thunder/Burning B)Pick one of the following: Slam/Driver/Bomb/Kick/Splash *)Optional: Pick the date you first modified it to make it more deadlier! EDIT: Joey Styles, intentionally or unintentionally mispronounced 'rolling elbow' as 'roaring elbow'. I always thought 'roaring elbow' sounded cool. Yeah, Styles Clash is a pretty lame name for a very cool move. I also hated the name of Low Ki's twisting gamengiri 'The Matrix', though I think I only heard it referred to as such once. West Coast Pop is a pretty horrible name, though he can't do it like he used to. (back in the WCW days, with other cruisers, they never touched the ground!) The Sicilian Slice was a pretty cool move (Rocker Dropper from the second rope by Guido) lame name. Lastly, I like the 'Edge-o-matic', (Edge's move, essentially an inverted X-factor), though it's not a finisher, but it's a stupid name that means nothing. Only thing I can think of is that Nova had a pretty lame move called the 'Sledge-o-matic.' Edited January 5, 2006 by Special K Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2006 I never understood why they renamed the "Liontamer" to the "Walls of Jericho", yet kept calling Jericho's quebrada the "Lionsault". 2 Cold Scorpio's 450 was never called the "Diss That Don't Miss" in WCW. Johnny B. Badd's left hook was called the "Kiss That Don't Miss". Perhaps you're thinking of that. I also could have swore that "Papoose To Go" was just a Heenan-ism for the move and wasn't the actual name. Kind of like how Tito Santana's flying forearm was the "Flying Jalapeno". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2006 Did I mention the Buzzkiller? It was actually a pretty good move for 6-pac, but what a fucking lame name. Buzzkill was a show on MTV at the time, if I remember. I don't recall anything else about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2006 There's nothing wrong with "F5" seeing as he spins like a Tornado so it's fitting. F5 is a classification of Tornado. I think it's the biggest one you can have. I've always hated the name "Sweet Chin Music". It sounds like HBK wants to skull f*ck someone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2006 Joey Styles, intentionally or unintentionally mispronounced 'rolling elbow' as 'roaring elbow'. I always thought 'roaring elbow' sounded cool. I think roaring elbow is the standard American name for a move, even if it's misproounced, like Kung Fu should technically be Gung Fu, because even on the FMW DVDs they call the move roaring elbow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites