2006 NFL Off-Season

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Vernon IS better than Mercedes Lewis. However the Jets are better off drafting a HB than Vernon.

[Black Lushus 0]

is Curtis Martin still the Jets primary back? Pennington is still slated to be starting QB? yeah, they need a RB, not a TE...don't they have a sufficient one right now anyway?

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Vernon IS better than Mercedes Lewis. However the Jets are better off drafting a HB than Vernon.

 

Jets need a recieving option just as much as they need a RB.

 

Coles best days are past him IMO. The Jets likely wont draft Davis, but it wouldn't be a bad idea if they did.

 

They can always get a RB with the 29th pick.

[JustJoe2k5 0]

I hope that after the NFL Draft I can proudly flaunt this signature:

 

[Brett Favre 0]

Nice sig.

 

Coles is still a very good wideout, but they can use another wideout. Just not early in this draft. There'll be more wideouts in next years draft to pair up Coles with. The Jets will take a QB or RB before another wide reciever (or Tight End).

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Nice sig.

 

Coles is still a very good wideout, but they can use another wideout. Just not early in this draft. There'll be more wideouts in next years draft to pair up Coles with. The Jets will take a QB or RB before another wide reciever (or Tight End).

 

Coles is good, but I don't think he has what it takes to be a #1 WR anymore. He would be a much better #2 WR at this point in his career.

 

They'll most likely draft D'Brick, Mario Williams, or AJ Hawk with their draft pick. I can't see them drafting a QB early in the draft considering they brought in Ramsey for an insurence policy, if Pennington starts to stink it up.

 

But drafting Vernon Davis wouldn't be a dumb idea IMO. It really doesn't matter if Davis is a TE, beause he is the best recieving option in the draft, and you need a recieving option to be good in the NFL.

 

If he drops to the Eagles, they have to take him IMO. Fuck LJ Smith.

[Brett Favre 0]

Vernon Davis will probably go to San Fran.

 

Coles is still in his prime. But I agree that he's not a true number 1 wideout. He's like a 1.5.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Vernon Davis will probably go to San Fran.

 

Coles is still in his prime. But I agree that he's not a true number 1 wideout. He's like a 1.5.

 

Coles prime was in 2002. He was a playmaker who was very effective, and could change the outcome of the game by himself.

 

When he wnt to Washington he put up good numbers, but didn't have that effect he did with the Jets in 2002. The Jets are still kicking themselfs in the ass for trading Santana Moss to get him back.

[Brett Favre 0]

Coles played with 4 QBs last year, so I give him a pass for last year. Moss just needed a QB who can throw it deep constantly and consistently, and he wasn't going to get that in Chad.

[Guest Vitamin X]

I must have missed something... when did Vernon Davis become the consensus top TE in the draft over Marcedes Lewis?

 

Since College Football season is over.

 

Vernon Davis had an amazing season at Maryland where he was the main weapon in the offense, he set many school records both on and off the field(Weight lifting and shit like that). I know your a Bruins fan, but you must be smoking crack if you think Lewis >>> Davis.

 

I'm not crazy for thinking this, it's just amazing considering all you ever heard during college football season was how great of a weapon Marcedes was to the Bruins' offense. They had comparable senior seasons (With Davis getting 51 receptions for 871 yards and 6 TDs, while Lewis got 58 receptions for 741 yards, and 10 TD's), but Lewis also won the John Mackey Award as well (given to the nation's top tight end) and Davis only seemed to help himself with great combine numbers. Of course it's impressive that he posted a 4.38 40 and I can see why he may be the top rated prospect now, but during last year's college FB season, all you ever heard about was Lewis and Pope.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

I think there was some issues with Mercedes in the combine that might have turned them a slightly bit off.

[Guest Vitamin X]

Yeah I've learned not to put a whole lot of stock into the combine unlike many NFL coaches and GM's. Production matters more than what prospects can prepare for and do in shorts and in a comfortable workout environment. Just ask Scott Pioli, who usually drafts based on that line of thinking as well.

[jwpeer 0]

Yeah I've learned not to put a whole lot of stock into the combine unlike many NFL coaches and GM's. Production matters more than what prospects can prepare for and do in shorts and in a comfortable workout environment. Just ask Scott Pioli, who usually drafts based on that line of thinking as well.

 

 

But when the production numbers are similar (As is the case with Lewis and Davis) the workout numbers are more significant. Also, the combine includes interviews and character tests, and those tend to be very valuable (maybe moreso than the physical workouts)

 

 

Lewis is still considered a late first round/early second round prospect, so it's not like he's being ignored. It's just he's not the raw physical specimen that Davis is, considering their similar levels of production in college.

[LaParkaMarka 0]

Look at Antonio Gates. The guy was playing Madden in his first year in the league just so he could understand more about the sport. Basically no football experience at all (and thus no production) and he turned out pretty well.

 

Plenty of guys produce great in College and absolutely suck in the pros (see Danny Wuerffel or that guy from Oklahoma who won the Heismann). The physical numbers provide an idea of what a guy could produce if he plays up to his potential. You can't just ignore combine numbers and look entirely at production, or you'll end up with a wonderful college team that will get destroyed by the Texans.

[Guest Vitamin X]

Plenty of guys produce great in College and absolutely suck in the pros (see Danny Wuerffel or that guy from Oklahoma who won the Heismann). The physical numbers provide an idea of what a guy could produce if he plays up to his potential. You can't just ignore combine numbers and look entirely at production, or you'll end up with a wonderful college team that will get destroyed by the Texans.

 

Yeah, you hear this argument all the time, but I'm talking about on the average. Guys who produce in college but don't have great combine numbers, on average, at least make their respective NFL squads. A guy like Ryan Leaf, who outperformed Peyton Manning at the combine, and seemingly in everything except for how well he played in college.. ditto for other failed QB's like Kyle Boller and Akili Smith.. among many many other guys who had great workouts but only had a good year or two in college with which to back it up.. for the most part, they're very hit or miss. If they hit, they hit it big, if they fail, they won't even make any team and end up journeying from team to team until they just call it quits for not being able to beat out the incumbents on any squad.

 

The guy from Oklahoma you're thinking of is Jason White, by the way, and he didn't make the Titans or Chiefs 53-man roster. This was mostly due to the fact that he couldn't play with two badly destroyed and numerously surgically repaired knees.

[KingPK 0]

Shaun Alexander has earned himself a torn ACL sometime this season as he is the coverboy for Madden NFL 2007.

 

I love how NFL Network On Demand lets you look at the top prospects individually or by position. Blows whatever ESPN is trying to do out of the water.

[the pinjockey 0]

I am interested to see what their coverage of the draft is going to be like. If their second day coverage actually covers what is going on, as opposed the the ESPN coverage that skips all the picks to go over what happened in the first round over and over, then I am there.

 

That Mayock guy doesn't seem to be too bad in the Kiper role, plus they took on Corey Chavous. I enjoyed the perspective of a current player who is a real draftnik, as opposed to when they had Romo on a couple years ago "uh...yeah the guy is a tackle and um.....I hope he is good."

[jwest27 0]

I haven't heard Omar Jacobs name mentioned at all, anyone know which round he's projected to go? I would have thought that he would be a good prospect.

[the pinjockey 0]

He seems to be in the second tier of QBs, second or third round, he is getting hurt by a deep QB class.

 

Has anyone heard anything about Jai Lewis' workout? I think he had a workout day yesterday, but I haven't seen anything about what he looked like.

[Damaramu 0]

The guy from Oklahoma you're thinking of is Jason White, by the way, and he didn't make the Titans or Chiefs 53-man roster. This was mostly due to the fact that he couldn't play with two badly destroyed and numerously surgically repaired knees.

 

Yeah but his was a double edged sword. Because of the injured knees he could barely walk and wasn't able to play in the NFL. But if he hadn't torn both his ACL's then he never would've won the Heisman or been considered to play in the NFL anyway. He was a running QB that couldn't really throw worth a damn before he injured himself. When he came back he had to reinvent himself and that's how he was able to put up the numbers he did to win the Heisman.

So yeah basically he never had a shot to play in the NFL either way. But the way it worked out at least he got a Heisman. Now he works as a Stock Broker in OKC.

[Guest Princess Leena]

NFL Network has draft coverage this year? Awesome.

 

Unfortunately, only 3 hours on the 2nd day... that's when they could really mop up on ESPN totally ignoring 90% of the picks.

[TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe 0]

Giants agree in principle with LaVarr Arrington

[MrRant 0]

Shaun Alexander has earned himself a torn ACL sometime this season as he is the coverboy for Madden NFL 2007.

 

I love how NFL Network On Demand lets you look at the top prospects individually or by position. Blows whatever ESPN is trying to do out of the water.

 

Oh god damn it.

[Guest Arnold_OldSchool]

Your daily GBP scare today courtesy of Bob McGinn, estimable Packer beat writer for the MJS, who says that football people rank Aaron Rodgers so far behind Leinart, Young, and Cutler that the poor guy might as well just repeat second grade:

 

Earlier in the month, 18 personnel people representing 16 teams were asked to rank the quarterbacks in this draft as well as Rodgers on a 1-to-4 basis. Four points were awarded for a first-place vote, three for a second and so on.

 

The lack of regard for Rodgers was readily apparent.

 

Rodgers received one second-place vote, three thirds and 11 fourths, and three voters even placed him behind either Brodie Croyle of Alabama or Charlie Whitehurst of Clemson. Rodgers had 20 points, far behind Leinart (62), Young (48) and Cutler (45).

 

Don’t worry, though—if TT does draft a QB #1, at least we wouldn’t be the first team in NFL history to do so:

 

In 1989, Dallas coach Jimmy Johnson took Troy Aikman with the No. 1 pick and then gave up a first-round pick three months later to select Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft. A year later, he foisted Walsh on New Orleans for first-, second- and third-round picks.

 

In the early 1960s, the Los Angeles Rams took Roman Gabriel, Terry Baker and Bill Munson in the first rounds of three consecutive drafts. Miami took Bob Griese in 1967 one year after taking Rick Norton. San Francisco drafted Earl Morrall and then John Brodie back-to-back in 1956-‘57.

 

God—what the hell must Roman Gabriel have been thinking?

 

Anyway, don’t look now, but we’re already talking 2007:

 

Given the laundry list of voids on the roster, look for the Packers to turn their seven picks into a double-digit total once again.

 

"They need a corner, they need a safety, they need two linebackers, they need a defensive end, they need two inside offensive linemen, they need a running back, a No.1 wideout and, really, the jury’s out at quarterback," a personnel director said Friday. "They don’t have a kicker and they don’t have a punter. Good luck. How many picks do they got?"

 

The scout said the Packers’ depth chart had the makings of a 3-13 team.

 

If the scout’s assessment turns out to be correct, the Packers would be in position to draft a top-rated quarterback such as Notre Dame’s Brady Quinn and Michigan State’s Drew Stanton in 2007.

 

In a separate, Packer Insider interview, a voice appearing to be that of the same personnel guy runs down the GBP roster—and I do mean run it down. Some of his zingers are priceless ("They picked up this (Marquand) Manuel guy. Is he going to start for them? Whew."),

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Seriously Who did Jimmy johnson have pictures of? he took 2 NFL teams to the cleaners in one sided trades. Wow.

[dh86 0]

thats beautiful..may the Packers be bad for many years to come

[Guest Vitamin X]

The people in Packerland are going a bit nuts. I'm not even as worried about this offseason as I was last year. I was really freaking out last year, and for good reason, ending up 4-12 and all. I don't think they'll be even close to that bad this year, especially if Favre returns, and maybe even if he doesn't.. I don't really care all too much at this point.

[Black Lushus 0]

I've got to believe he wouldn't make the Packers organization or their fans wait this long just to say "I'm done." I'm thinking he's got at least one more season in him.

[Guest Arnold_OldSchool]

Thompson also said he wasn’t sure if he would hear from quarterback Brett Favre, who still hasn’t announced whether he will play this season, before the draft. He insisted Favre’s uncertainty — and receiver Javon Walker’s claim that he wants to be cut or traded and won’t play for the Packers again — won’t impact his decision-making in the draft.

 

“I don’t think it can or should,” Thompson said. “You might think about it, but the draft, as I’ve said before, is a long-term thing, a long-term process for your organization. It’s an investment in the future, and I don’t think you can look at it in the short-term point of view.

 

 

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So your No 1 reciever refuses to play and you cut your 2005 rd 2 pick WR this week due to injury and yet it won't effect the draft plans.

Thats just a bad lie.

[Hawk 34 0]

Thompson also said he wasn’t sure if he would hear from quarterback Brett Favre, who still hasn’t announced whether he will play this season, before the draft. He insisted Favre’s uncertainty — and receiver Javon Walker’s claim that he wants to be cut or traded and won’t play for the Packers again — won’t impact his decision-making in the draft.

 

“I don’t think it can or should,” Thompson said. “You might think about it, but the draft, as I’ve said before, is a long-term thing, a long-term process for your organization. It’s an investment in the future, and I don’t think you can look at it in the short-term point of view.

 

 

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So your No 1 reciever refuses to play and you cut your 2005 rd 2 pick WR this week due to injury and yet it won't effect the draft plans.

Thats just a bad lie.

 

You assume they even have plans. GB is going with the old school dart board method. It probably would have better success then them using their own heads.

[2GOLD 0]

Thompson also said he wasn’t sure if he would hear from quarterback Brett Favre, who still hasn’t announced whether he will play this season, before the draft. He insisted Favre’s uncertainty — and receiver Javon Walker’s claim that he wants to be cut or traded and won’t play for the Packers again — won’t impact his decision-making in the draft.

 

“I don’t think it can or should,” Thompson said. “You might think about it, but the draft, as I’ve said before, is a long-term thing, a long-term process for your organization. It’s an investment in the future, and I don’t think you can look at it in the short-term point of view.

 

 

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So your No 1 reciever refuses to play and you cut your 2005 rd 2 pick WR this week due to injury and yet it won't effect the draft plans.

Thats just a bad lie.

 

So in the grand scheme of things, the Packers won't need receivers in the future?

In what WORLD does that make any sense? Short term or long term, you have no receivers you idiot.