The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2006 I played Matthew Harrison Brady in high school, my friend chanted E-C-DUB in rehearsal when I took a good fall during my heart attack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted January 21, 2006 Alf Landon "Little House On Melmac" "Hairway to Heaven" was the proper way to play that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2006 Yeah, because then you get a synergistic Zep reference in there as well. good call Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2006 I wouldn't call him a conservative yet, I've only had him for a week. He seems to be pretty unbiased from what I can tell. At any rate, he just told us how unprofessional it was for Roosevelt to never once brief Truman about the bomb. I guess he just likes Truman's take-no-shit philosophy. I'll ask him to go more in-depth on that before class on Monday morning; he's not one to really get into dialogues during the class period yet. Keep in mind, Truman was FDR's third vice president, and we weren't in the era yet where being the VP didn't entitle you to anything besides a really good seat in Senate sessions. The reason Lincoln, FDR, and Washington get such high marks is because the US itself was in real danger of self-destructing during their presidencies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2006 Yeah but it's not as if Truman was just gonna hang around the Senate for four years. FDR was clearly dying and wasn't going to even last two years. Truman had a right to know what was going on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2006 Something of that importance had to be kept as secret as possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2006 Yeah but it's not as if Truman was just gonna hang around the Senate for four years. But that's exactly what FDR thought. FDR honestly didn't think he was about to die. If he had, Truman would not have been given the office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2006 1. Lincoln 2. Washington 3. T. Roosevelt 4. F. Roosevelt 5. Reagan 6. Jackson 7. Polk 8. Eisenhower 9. Monroe 10. McKinley Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2006 And someone's gonna have to tell me why many call Reagan one of our best Presidents ever, because I'm not seeing it. He's probably in the top half (although I'd put him there more due to intangibles than actual accomplishment), but that's it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2006 At least he was the winning lawyer in the Scopes-Monkey trial. And then promptly keeled over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2006 And someone's gonna have to tell me why many call Reagan one of our best Presidents ever, because I'm not seeing it. He's probably in the top half (although I'd put him there more due to intangibles than actual accomplishment), but that's it. His defense build-up accelerated the collapse of the Soviet Union while creating jobs for US workers, and his economic policies ended the repeated waves of inflation that crippled the US economy throughout the 1970s. While the deficits his budgets created were huge, they weren't nearly as bad as they were made out to be once you adjusted for inflation and compared them with the deficits of the past. Stephen Joseph would probably bitch-slap me for saying this, but in my opinion, Ronald Reagan's presidency was a vindication of Keynesian (not supply-side) economics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2006 So... what was with the recessions and scandals and awful environmental record and ignoring the emerging AIDS epidemic and helping to usher in this terrible age we're in where substance doesn't mean anything to voters anymore and... ah fuck it. This fight won't be worth it, the old bastard just seems to get off the hook for everything because "he won the Cold War" (which is BS, as the Soviet Union couldn't have lasted past 1995, tops) and was just such a nice, harmless old man! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2006 My List 1)Abraham Lincoln 2)Teddy Roosevelt 3)Andrew Jackson 4)Franklin D. Roosevelt 5)Ronald Reagan 6)Thomas Jefferson 7)Woodrow Wilson 8)Harry Truman 9)Ulysses S. Grant 10)Bill Clinton I never understood how people could put Washington on a list of top 10 presidents. He might be in the top 15-20, but no way top 10.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2006 I feel bad for Dewey because the mainstreamliberalpress toyed with his feelings by running those mean headlines, making him think he had won. Most historians agree that Dewey had no actual feelings, so your sentiment is wasted. More leftwingliberalrevisionism by Big History. And didn't some Feminazi call Dewey that groom on top of a wedding cake? Had there been RIGHT-WING RADIO back then, Beck would have been making jokes about this smear merchant, and she would have had thought of suicide by the time Hannity got around to the issue on his show. Also, Drudge would have had about 20 sirens going on his home page. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2006 So... what was with the recessions and scandals and awful environmental record and ignoring the emerging AIDS epidemic and helping to usher in this terrible age we're in where substance doesn't mean anything to voters anymore and... ah fuck it. This fight won't be worth it, the old bastard just seems to get off the hook for everything because "he won the Cold War" (which is BS, as the Soviet Union couldn't have lasted past 1995, tops) and was just such a nice, harmless old man! Two words to remember when discussing Ronald Reagan and scandals: "plausible deniability." And nobody's given a shit about the environment since 3-Mile Island. Had there been RIGHT-WING RADIO back then, Beck would have been making jokes about this smear merchant, and she would have had thought of suicide by the time Hannity got around to the issue on his show. But there WERE plenty of right wing newsapers back then gunning for Truman and proclaiming Dewey the next president. No one gave Truman a chance of winning. This is back when people still actually read. Average Americans still voted for Truman because they understood he was the better man for the job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2006 But there WERE plenty of right wing newsapers back then gunning for Truman and proclaiming Dewey the next president. No one gave Truman a chance of winning. This is back when people still actually read. Average Americans still voted for Truman because they understood he was the better man for the job. They voted for Truman because of the corrupt Democrat political machine, something I'm sure Big Media at the time took an interest in. And Truman made some rather vicious partisan attacks during his political stops. Well, it's nice to know the Democrat Party may have different ideals now than it did 50 years ago, but they still campaign the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2006 kkk - Do you have any opinions of your own? Or is it all just an extended parody? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2006 Well maybe if Y2Jerk would shut up I'd gladly end this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2006 Some of it is pretty funny, kkk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2006 Only "some"? Actually, there was a really good site that talked about elections and broke a bunch of elections down into electoral results and stuff. If I can find it I'll post a link to it. EDIT: Here it is. It's interesting to see how states were in the past, some even as recent as '92, and see where they are today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2006 But there WERE plenty of right wing newsapers back then gunning for Truman and proclaiming Dewey the next president. No one gave Truman a chance of winning. This is back when people still actually read. Average Americans still voted for Truman because they understood he was the better man for the job. They voted for Truman because of the corrupt Democrat political machine, something I'm sure Big Media at the time took an interest in. And Truman made some rather vicious partisan attacks during his political stops. Well, it's nice to know the Democrat Party may have different ideals now than it did 50 years ago, but they still campaign the same. "Have we met?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2006 Do people who call it the "Democrat Party" know how uneducated they sound? Like, I see what they're going for, but it's at the expense of their credibility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2006 John Breckenridge should of been the President of the CSA. Davis would of been suited serving on the military side of things. Which is what he wanted to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2006 Do people who call it the "Democrat Party" know how uneducated they sound? No worse than I usually do. Like, I see what they're going for, but it's at the expense of their credibility. Well if my so-called credibility must take a hit because I refuse to call the Party of Intolerance "Democratic" then so be it. People like me have been questioned in our time. Galileo, Copernicus, they have nothing compared to what I have to shoulder. In fact, the whole calling the Democrat Party "Democratic" I think this is nothing more than a Big Media (with the declining subscriptions and loss of viewership, perhaps I should instead call them Medium-Large Media like I do at the other place) scheme to make their uneducated readers think, "Hey, these guys aren't so bad. They're much better than that GOP. By the way, why are they called "GOP" when they're Republicans? That must be because they don't want me to know what a bunch of racists/sexists/bigots/homophobes they are. Thank you NY Times for setting me straight." "Have we met?" You'll listen in on my private conversations, but you won't return my calls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2006 Okay, I didn't really read any of that, but the point is, it's incorrect usage, it's not that clever, and it makes you sound like you don't know the right way to say it. I mean, I think they're a bunch of whiny, shallow, subversively racist, disingenuous pantywaists, but the correct term is "Democratic Party." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2006 Okay, I didn't really read any of that, but the point is, it's incorrect usage, it's not that clever, and it makes you sound like you don't know the right way to say it. I mean, I think they're a bunch of whiny, shallow, subversively racist, disingenuous pantywaists, but the correct term is "Postwar Western Civilization." Corrected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2006 Okay, I didn't really read any of that, but the point is, it's incorrect usage, it's not that clever, and it makes you sound like you don't know the right way to say it. I mean, I think they're a bunch of whiny, shallow, subversively racist, disingenuous pantywaists, but the correct term is "Postwar Western Civilization." Corrected. Can I get an "Oh SNAPZ~!"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites