So TNA Could Have Gotten Jericho But Went With Sting

[Zack Malibu 0]

In my opinion, only Jericho or Brock would be worth that money. It'd be stupid to sign Goldberg for that amount, because I don't believe he'll mean anything. He may have crossover potential with his non-wrestling ventures and all, but honestly, I don't think Bill would make much of a difference in buyrates. I believe Jericho or Lesnar would, especially when you start getting to the smarks dream matches like Jericho/Styles, Brock/Joe, and things of that like.

[razazteca 0]

So what is the going rate for Lex Luger, Buff Bagwell, Scott Steiner, Andrew Test Martin, Brian Lee, Bryan Adams, Albert, Rico, Mike Barton, Adbullah the Butcher, King Kong Bundy, One Man Gang?

[Matt Young 0]

Mike Barton

 

Smoking Gunns reunion!

[Guest hasbeen]

I'd watch if Abdullah was on there.

[Guest Submission Machine]

In the new observer it says Jericho would be interested in working for TNA if he could get Sting money(500k per year), but apparently Sting is worth more to TNA This company is so clueless.

 

 

The only clueless person in this case, is in fact you. Like already said, Jericho made a comment based on what TNA was willing to pay sting, they were never in contract negotiations, In fact before he left WWE to pursue his WWE career, it was stated on WWE.com that he is infact not going any where, he did infact sign a contract extention, get your facts before you mouth off about TNA.

[Dangerous A 0]

So what is the going rate for Lex Luger, Buff Bagwell, Scott Steiner, Andrew Test Martin, Brian Lee, Bryan Adams, Albert, Rico, Mike Barton, Adbullah the Butcher, King Kong Bundy, One Man Gang?

 

 

Absolutely nothing.

 

 

None of those guys bring anything to the table in terms of something positive for a wrestling promotion.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

With the right booking, Albert/A-Train/Giant Bernard could have a nice upside.

[Zack Malibu 0]

In the new observer it says Jericho would be interested in working for TNA if he could get Sting money(500k per year), but apparently Sting is worth more to TNA This company is so clueless.

 

 

The only clueless person in this case, is in fact you. Like already said, Jericho made a comment based on what TNA was willing to pay sting, they were never in contract negotiations, In fact before he left WWE to pursue his WWE career, it was stated on WWE.com that he is infact not going any where, he did infact sign a contract extention, get your facts before you mouth off about TNA.

 

Jericho's not under a WWE contract, and is free to go to TNA should he choose to. The contract extension was signed (and posted on WWE.com) because he was in the midst of the Cena feud, and the revelation of it was to make people not think that he was just jobbing out on the way out the door.

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So what is the going rate for Lex Luger, Buff Bagwell, Scott Steiner, Andrew Test Martin, Brian Lee, Bryan Adams, Albert, Rico, Mike Barton, Adbullah the Butcher, King Kong Bundy, One Man Gang?

 

 

Absolutely nothing.

 

 

None of those guys bring anything to the table in terms of something positive for a wrestling promotion.

But there has already been a precedent set as TNA has already hired wrestlers of this caliber in the past.

[RedJed 0]

God, I cant get over how people are thinking that ANYONE is worth a half a million contract for TNA. Jericho, especially, is a hot commodity, no doubt about it, but worth THAT much?!!! He's totally unproven to warrant that much money being thrown his way. Lesnar, to his credit, at least has proven he can draw under the right circumstances. Jericho never really has been at that same level, sans a small run with the world title that went nowhere - granted thats not his fault, but it still didnt help his case that he could move mountains as some seem to think here.

 

Take a step back out of the smark mindset and ask yourself again if Jericho is worth a half of a million, seriously.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Yes, he is. As a very recognizable name from WWE, his jumping would send a a message, not just to fans but, more importantly, to WWE wrestlers, that there is an alternative place to go. That in itself is a very valuable perception to put out there.

[RedJed 0]

Yes, he is. As a very recognizable name from WWE, his jumping would send a a message, not just to fans but, more importantly, to WWE wrestlers, that there is an alternative place to go. That in itself is a very valuable perception to put out there.

 

I guess to me, he doesnt seem that much extraordinarily different than Christian, and he surely doesnt deserve a half a million contract as such. He's talented as hell and such, but bringing him in wouldnt move any mountains that arent being moved already. Even Sting himself doesnt deserve that and he's a proven established name. The main problem with TNA is that no matter who they get, they need to learn to advertise correctly that they have those stars, so people tune in in the first place. They still havent gotten that after all these years.

 

As far as the WWE wrestler thing, I think most of them know there is an alternative place to go already with TNA - it could be reinforced with a Jericho jump but the perception is already there. Christian did it already and I think that spoke volumes. Sting also being brought in just further established the value TNA can be to wrestlers when they got a guy basically burned out on the business for years back in the game. Hell, it seems clear this perception thing is already happening if two un-named "big time" workers are all of a sudden interested in TNA.

 

So you're telling me casual fans who dont follow wrestling normally would immediately pick up on Jericho in TNA like alcohol to a fire? I'm not convinced and I am even a fan of his. Again - other than maybe a guy like Austin or Rock and quite possibly Lesnar MAYBE, investing that much into a talent is risky at best anyway you slice it. Especially if have a pretty unproven track record of drawing as a main eventer consistently - which is the WWE's fault, mind you, but its still the reality of the situation - Jericho is totally in this group. He's as much of a legitimate draw as Jarrett has always been, at this point. He still has plenty to prove to warrant a half a million dollar contract for a limited amount of dates per year. Fuck, didnt Goldberg, when he was in theory still very much hot and a draw, make a million a year for a full schedule? See my point here? Half a million for limited dates, unless a guy is totally proven to draw, is company suicide still for TNA, at least right now. Sting just barely broke that barrier of an acceptable name to warrant a high price, but it was still clearly too much money going to him.

 

One other thing - if Jericho was this huge star some are saying, there should have been a wild crazy pop when Jarrett tossed his name out there in that recent promo. There wasnt. This is not Rock/Austin material here we are talking with Jericho.

[Twisted Intestine 0]

Half a million isn't really that much money. You need to invest in a company before it can turn a profit.

[RedJed 0]

Half a million isn't really that much money. You need to invest in a company before it can turn a profit.

 

You need to explain yourself much more than that because to say investing a half a million is safe to a company still in the red with all of this after years of being involved with this is risky as hell. I understand the idea of investing before it can turn a profit, but they cannot go too overboard with the money, since they have already basically done so for a long time already. They have to draw the line somewhere and realize that spending all of this money on stars is pointless if there is nothing to warrant it's return.

 

My thing is why the hell TNA hasnt gotten their advertising part of the company much more streamlined if they are blowing all this money on talent. Its ridiculous. Spending a half a million towards a really solid advertising agency would be much more conducive to its future success than just spending shitloads of $$$ on guys to bring in. Hell, spending a half million on advertising alone would be better.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

I guess to me, he doesnt seem that much extraordinarily different than Christian, and he surely doesnt deserve a half a million contract as such. He's talented as hell and such, but bringing him in wouldnt move any mountains that arent being moved already. Even Sting himself doesnt deserve that and he's a proven established name. The main problem with TNA is that no matter who they get, they need to learn to advertise correctly that they have those stars, so people tune in in the first place. They still havent gotten that after all these years.

 

Jericho was more high profile than Christian, and treated a lot better, even if not pushed as well as he could be. Jericho also, to the casual fan, as much more crediblity than anyone in TNA, and getting someone like that can only help TNA. Granted, TNA need to advertise better and get out there more, but if they get Jericho, then they'll pull out all the stops to get word out that a high profile WWE name has joined them.

 

As far as the WWE wrestler thing, I think most of them know there is an alternative place to go already with TNA - it could be reinforced with a Jericho jump but the perception is already there. Christian did it already and I think that spoke volumes. Sting also being brought in just further established the value TNA can be to wrestlers when they got a guy basically burned out on the business for years back in the game. Hell, it seems clear this perception thing is already happening if two un-named "big time" workers are all of a sudden interested in TNA.

 

They know there is an alternative, but they don't see it as much of one. Jericho going over would cement the fact that there is a genuine alternative. Jericho going over would mean a whole lot more than Christian going over. Sting didn't establish it, because he's considered a legend, and you cannot compare the treatment a legend gets to the treatment a name wrestler in WWE would get. And the perception doesn't even start until those "big names" actually do sign. Until then, it's just talk.

 

So you're telling me casual fans who dont follow wrestling normally would immediately pick up on Jericho in TNA like alcohol to a fire? I'm not convinced and I am even a fan of his. Again - other than maybe a guy like Austin or Rock and quite possibly Lesnar MAYBE, investing that much into a talent is risky at best anyway you slice it. Especially if have a pretty unproven track record of drawing as a main eventer consistently - which is the WWE's fault, mind you, but its still the reality of the situation - Jericho is totally in this group. He's as much of a draw as Jarrett has always been. If Jericho was this huge star some are saying, there should have been a wild crazy pop when Jarrett tossed his name out there in that recent promo. There wasnt.

 

I'm not saying anything like that. I'm saying it would chip away yet again at WWE's credibility when a major name, and Jericho was a major name, even if he wasn't treated the best he could be, goes to TNA rather than to the 'big league' WWE. Jericho's name not getting a huge pop means nothing. Hunter tossed out Rock's name during a promo a year or so ago, and I didn't see the crowd going crazy. Does that mean Rock meant nothing?

[RedJed 0]

That random Rock throw-out of a name in a HHH promo is totally different than Jarrett throwing Jericho's name out. They had to be looking for a general response from the crowd when Jarrett did this. Rock's name is thrown around in WWE so often it's not meant to provoke a response. By the way Jarrett just randomly threw his name out there, I think there was an attempt to get people buzzing about the possibility. It didnt happen. Hardly anyone popped at the name throwing. Think of it kind of how Hogan name called Austin out on the homecoming show. This is what I think they were going for there, and it fell on deaf ears.

 

So you think TNA will all of a sudden magically pull out all the stops for advertising if Jericho showed up? I have no idea where you can assume that since this Sting thing was supposed to be so ridiculously huge, that NOW is the time (if not a long time ago actually, when TNA first went to monthly ppvs basically) to really push hard on the advertising. They just spent a half a million on him for gods sakes!

 

I'd love to see some poll from casual fans on how they feel about Jericho. I still think alot of us here are over-inflating his value and still, nobody has proven that as wrong other than just saying "he has credibility." At very best his value is a toss up due to the inept WWE booking of him.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

They weren't looking for a response when throwing Jericho's name out. They were looking to get people to hear the name and think he might be coming in.

 

I can think it because Jericho is the kind of major name that TNA would love to throw in Vince's face as someone who decided to go with them rather than go back to Vince. TNA wouldn't turn up a chance to do that.

[Twisted Intestine 0]

Half a million isn't really that much money. You need to invest in a company before it can turn a profit.

 

You need to explain yourself much more than that because to say investing a half a million is safe to a company still in the red with all of this after years of being involved with this is risky as hell. I understand the idea of investing before it can turn a profit, but they cannot go too overboard with the money, since they have already basically done so for a long time already. They have to draw the line somewhere and realize that spending all of this money on stars is pointless if there is nothing to warrant it's return.

 

My thing is why the hell TNA hasnt gotten their advertising part of the company much more streamlined if they are blowing all this money on talent. Its ridiculous. Spending a half a million towards a really solid advertising agency would be much more conducive to its future success than just spending shitloads of $$$ on guys to bring in. Hell, spending a half million on advertising alone would be better.

 

Filming a high budget commercial costs about $70k. So.. let's say they go a little more budget than that and film one for $30k. Then they have to pay for air time, which is about $15k for 10 seconds on the CHEAP-DECENT end of a National station... Forget about prime time prices. The average commercial length is 30 seconds, so that's $45k for every time they air a commercial.

 

So basically, they can air 21 commercials for 1million, and 11 for 500k on a national station during a show with ratings maybe ranging between 1.0-3.0.

 

Jericho would cost 500k, so that's 11 commercials. Will those 11 commercials bring in more viewership than Jericho? What's more valuable to the company in the long run, airing 11 commercials, or having Jericho under contract for a year? That's what I mean by saying 1mil isn't really that much. Everything in the entertainment industry is super expensive, making one million seem like nothing.

[razazteca 0]

Take a step back out of the smark mindset and ask yourself again if Jericho is worth a half of a million, seriously.

$350 and with the extra $150 sign Lance Storm.

[Guest hasbeen]

How much would be be worth if the name Jericho couldn't be used? (Or is it his to take with him if he leaves)

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In the new observer it says Jericho would be interested in working for TNA if he could get Sting money(500k per year), but apparently Sting is worth more to TNA This company is so clueless.

 

Both of them are stale bible thumpers, so there's no difference in my eyes. But like it or not, historically, Sting is a bigger name than Jericho ever will be.

[benoit4hor 0]

Nobody else heard the Y2J chant?

[Guest Princess Leena]

I have to think Jericho is a bigger name than Sting now... mostly because Sting has been off TV for 4+ years now. To most people who watch TNA now, Sting is likely the "bigger" name, but ask all wrestling fans, and I'm sure Jericho would be more popular.

[benoit4hor 0]

No way casual/mark fan's see Jericho as a whinny crybaby, they view sting as a badass who can take out anybody.

 

"Sting would destroy Jericho" is what would run through their minds.

[TNABaddboi 0]

Well here's probably why they think Sting is worth it, especially since they're not paying him entirely by themselves. It's from PWI:

 

The initial talk going around is that the Final Resolution PPV headlined by Sting & Christian Cage vs. Jeff Jarrett & Monty Brown will be the highest buyrate to date for the company, although they don't release the figures publicly.

[Jericho2000Mark 0]

Weren't the fans chanting "Y2J" on Impact during Jarrett's promo?

[Enigma 0]

Yeah, because Jarrett mentioned Jericho in a promo during his "Flavor of the Month" rant.

 

And to the poster, if TNA could have gotten Jericho with that money instead of Sting, they would have gotten Jericho. Jericho made that "I'd go if I got Sting money" comment in passing when he was told of Sting's TNA salary, and I doubt he was even serious about it. Jericho and WWE are still tight.

[Wrestlefreak 0]

Jericho is a great wrestler, but in terms of star power(which TNA needs right now) Sting is the clear choice.

 

I also think Jericho was joking anyway. He does still have a good relationship with WWE.