Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted January 29, 2006 I don't watch much TNA but if Christy Hemme signed up I think would catch an episode. She had a natural spark to her that made her fun to watch. And she's already got more charisma than the entire roster so I think bringing her in is a definite plus for the company. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheInsane 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2006 Moore should get the heat. He doesn't deserve the push over someone like Aries or even Bentley. I dont understand why Moore is getting the heat though. He's just there doing his job. Shouldnt it be the bookers and writers that should get heat putting him in front of other talent? I would rather see Shelley getting the push but I hate his "gimmick" and they really need to make people stand out a bit more before they push them. Thats the nature of the beast, especially in US pro-wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2006 I would rather see Shelley getting the push but I hate his "gimmick" and they really need to make people stand out a bit more before they push them. Thats the nature of the beast, especially in US pro-wrestling. Yeah. Shelley has natural "goofy" charisma, but he isn't actually THAT goofy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Desperate Housewife Report post Posted January 29, 2006 Exactly, TNA is nothing more than a big ego trip for people(on and off television) that have heat with WWE. They really don't give a damn about creating a second option for all the workers. All they care about is furthering their grudges against WWE. I can't stand TNA. The internet smarks and a number of these news reporters are overall anti-WWE and pro-TNA. They go to such ridiculous lengthg to defend TNA, overhype everything they do and put a positive on them with everything. Easily the most intelligent thing I've read on this board in a long long time. Watch out though, you'll be accused of being a troll, or a WWE Mark, or a PBP anytime soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2006 Exactly, TNA is nothing more than a big ego trip for people(on and off television) that have heat with WWE. They really don't give a damn about creating a second option for all the workers. All they care about is furthering their grudges against WWE. I can't stand TNA. The internet smarks and a number of these news reporters are overall anti-WWE and pro-TNA. They go to such ridiculous lengthg to defend TNA, overhype everything they do and put a positive on them with everything. Easily the most intelligent thing I've read on this board in a long long time. Watch out though, you'll be accused of being a troll, or a WWE Mark, or a PBP anytime soon That is what TNA very well may have started as, and Jarrett certainly still has pull, but I am sorry, unless TNA has changed radically since I started becoming unable to watch their shows late last year, their shows have better and more interesting wrestling, in my opinion, of course. I happen to like the six sided ring and the high flyers and even guys like Matt Bentley who aren't great, it's true, but can be carried through good matches. I like the fact that the crowd is active and does things like the Bentley Bounce or all the folks in the Hoytamania shirts. They have more passion and fire than WWE fans seem to, and they don't have people like the Boogeyman wasting our time and insulting our intelligence. I have never felt stupid watching TNA, I have been embarassed on multiple occasions watching WWE. Also, to the best of my knowledge, TNA wants to be a wrestling company, Vince has openly said he thinks of it as making movies. I'll take TNA, with all its flaws and whatnot over a company that has seriously made me question the sanity of it's owner lately. If you prefer WWE, that's your business, not mine, and there's no need for either side to be hostile about it. We simply have differant opinions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HandofFate 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2006 Exactly, TNA is nothing more than a big ego trip for people(on and off television) that have heat with WWE. They really don't give a damn about creating a second option for all the workers. All they care about is furthering their grudges against WWE. I can't stand TNA. The internet smarks and a number of these news reporters are overall anti-WWE and pro-TNA. They go to such ridiculous lengthg to defend TNA, overhype everything they do and put a positive on them with everything. Easily the most intelligent thing I've read on this board in a long long time. Watch out though, you'll be accused of being a troll, or a WWE Mark, or a PBP anytime soon That is what TNA very well may have started as, and Jarrett certainly still has pull, but I am sorry, unless TNA has changed radically since I started becoming unable to watch their shows late last year, their shows have better and more interesting wrestling, in my opinion, of course. I happen to like the six sided ring and the high flyers and even guys like Matt Bentley who aren't great, it's true, but can be carried through good matches. I like the fact that the crowd is active and does things like the Bentley Bounce or all the folks in the Hoytamania shirts. They have more passion and fire than WWE fans seem to, and they don't have people like the Boogeyman wasting our time and insulting our intelligence. I have never felt stupid watching TNA, I have been embarassed on multiple occasions watching WWE. Also, to the best of my knowledge, TNA wants to be a wrestling company, Vince has openly said he thinks of it as making movies. I'll take TNA, with all its flaws and whatnot over a company that has seriously made me question the sanity of it's owner lately. If you prefer WWE, that's your business, not mine, and there's no need for either side to be hostile about it. We simply have differant opinions. Bravo man...BRAVO!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JRE Report post Posted January 29, 2006 It's quite unfair to call TNA fans more passionate than WWE fans- since TNA is taped at the same arena every week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Desperate Housewife Report post Posted January 29, 2006 TNA wants to be a "wrestling" company yet runs sick, disgusting barbed wire matches. If anyone else did them - they'd be called a Garbage Promotion. And btw, as for the WWE "insulting your intelligence" - maybe if you treated his promotion with respect (for insatnce, STOP BOOING CENA), you might get somewhere Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2006 Exactly, TNA is nothing more than a big ego trip for people(on and off television) that have heat with WWE. They really don't give a damn about creating a second option for all the workers. All they care about is furthering their grudges against WWE. I can't stand TNA. The internet smarks and a number of these news reporters are overall anti-WWE and pro-TNA. They go to such ridiculous lengthg to defend TNA, overhype everything they do and put a positive on them with everything. Easily the most intelligent thing I've read on this board in a long long time. Watch out though, you'll be accused of being a troll, or a WWE Mark, or a PBP anytime soon Do You Know How Dumb You Sound? But at least it funny... This guy was so saddened by an OAO Raw thread that he started a hardcore thread to whine about it. Then he does the same thing he bitched about in the TNA folder. Pretty sad. Seems like the definition of trolling too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2006 TNA wants to be a "wrestling" company yet runs sick, disgusting barbed wire matches. If anyone else did them - they'd be called a Garbage Promotion. And btw, as for the WWE "insulting your intelligence" - maybe if you treated his promotion with respect (for insatnce, STOP BOOING CENA), you might get somewhere And WWE ran a barbed wire cage match at, I believe, No Way Out 2005. Chairs and sledgehammers are both also large parts of WWE events. Shall we consider WWE a garbage promotion as well? If no, what are the criteria? Barbed wire can also be used as a match dynamic and I distinctly recall hearing something about barbed wire being in older shows, even predating ECW. I could be wrong, though. If you dislike barbed wire, that's one thing, but it's not like barbed wire is a huge part of TNA. It's used primarily so that guys like Sabu can excite the crowd will crazy looking spots. Also, when I say insulting my intelligence, I meant things like the worm rain on Smackdown. Cena is bad, and I dislike him, but I wouldn't call him insulting my intelligence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Desperate Housewife Report post Posted January 29, 2006 The difference between the cage match at last years NWO and the digusting one Jarrett ran was Sabu and Abyss were fighting IN the barbed wire - Big Show and JBL wern't Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Si82 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2006 The difference between the cage match at last years NWO and the digusting one Jarrett ran was Sabu and Abyss were fighting IN the barbed wire - Big Show and JBL wern't So why advertise it as a "barbed wire cage match" then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Desperate Housewife Report post Posted January 29, 2006 They didn't use the wire to MAIM each other Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2006 I wonder if the wwe will ever use thumbtacks? Or rape and death as angles? They would never do necrophilia though, I know that much... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2006 I thought the buildup for Sabu/Abyss barbed wire match was so strong that they really couldn't go anywhere else with it. It was also a fun time. Stop being a girl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Desperate Housewife Report post Posted January 29, 2006 I wonder if the wwe will ever use thumbtacks? Or rape and death as angles? They would never do necrophilia though, I know that much... The WWE desn't market itself as family friendly entertainment the way TNA does Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2006 So wwe is a garbage promotion? Which one is it, journalist? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buffybeast 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2006 Is Christy Hemme the red head Diva winner recently released from WWE? BTW, I just downloaded the Styles vs Daniels vs Joe match and it was awesome. Any ideas on where I can download more TNA matches, or at least Joe matches? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2006 Is Christy Hemme the red head Diva winner recently released from WWE? BTW, I just downloaded the Styles vs Daniels vs Joe match and it was awesome. Any ideas on where I can download more TNA matches, or at least Joe matches? Yes, that's Christy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2006 I wonder if the wwe will ever use thumbtacks? Or rape and death as angles? They would never do necrophilia though, I know that much... The WWE desn't market itself as family friendly entertainment the way TNA does Stop making lame-ass excuses for your jaded particularness to rip TNA a new asshole everytime you get to. There is no even logic into what you just said there, because WWE was,has, and will continue to market itself for families, dare I say more than TNA ever has or will. So the point is basically, well there isnt one. But just to clarify, where are you figuring that TNA is marketing itself as a family friendly promotion more than WWE in the first place?!! Thats an insane statement, even by your standards which aren't very high on the totem pole of respectable, fair, and logical statements towards the promotion in general. So there are two people here who are apparently so upset that TNA gets any positive publicity from us or from various wrestling journalists. You know what, take a step out of your bias and maybe realize that both TNA and WWE has good and bad points, just like every other company. People are going to rip on TNA or WWE for those bad points. People are going to praise them for their good points. You, very obviously, want everyone to just hate TNA from top to bottom just because Jarrett runs the show there. While it is not productive for Jarrett to run it, which nobody is really questioning, its taking that to the next step in which your opinions are all messed up. Sure, Jarrett has stroke, there is no doubt, but to say he uses the company exclusively as a promoter for himself and as such, all talent is apparently held down there, you're way off. I'd agree with you more if TNA ppvs didnt have X division matches as main events (furthermore, how is having the X division showcased heavily on TNA programming "holding a grudge against WWE?" ) AND if Jarrett actually would hold down talent in a sense that they dont even get a chance (meaning the time alllowed in a match and the context of it) to work great matches, but the fact is the matter is that HE DOES. And they do get the push following such great matches most times - look at the follow up that Joe, Styles, and Daniels has gotten since the three way in Sept. All three are very much in the top 5 bracket of stars in that company, have been showcased and profiled heavily since the Spike debut, and they are following up with them from Sept now going full circle with a rematch that may very well be the main event on the next ppv, or at very worst, right below it. We all know he shouldnt be champ and shouldnt try to hold himself in a higher regard than he is, but that doesnt mean the entire company is just a pile of shit. You're so hypocritical since you, I, and every fucking fan with a brain knows that in essense TNA is the same as WWE in that they are both moreless "unofficially" ran by guys with over-rated capabilities in Jarrett and HHH. The same politics are there for both of them - yes, they have held talents down at times, and more times than not, look in the best interests of themselves and not the company as a whole. But they also have not prevented people that are getting over to, well, get over. So the shit you are bitching about is happening just about the same in WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rubin Report post Posted January 29, 2006 Typical hypocrisy here and elsewhere on the board. Like with the bait and switch talk. Funny how all the smarks and all the dirt sheet and news site reporters didn't say a word when TNA hyped Sting for their TV show last week and didn't deliver. Instead at the end they announced that he will show up next week. Ofcourse, all these hypocrital pieces of trash bash WWE if they ever do anything like this. One of the stupidest things I have read recently is the defense of TNA ripping off ROH ideas like with Generation Next, etc. All the smarks and even one of the sheet reporters say that TNA ripping off good ideas from ROH is smart business. WHat a load of crap. These are the same people that bash WWE for taking ECW ideas to create the attitude era and they talk about how they're so evil and uncreative for doing this. They always moan about WWE picking on the little guys.Yet, it's very clear that TNA can't really do anything on their own to get by. TNA mainly relies on people with past national names to carry them, especially if they're just exiting WWE. The only non-national talents they go after are the ones from ROH(whom they rip off a lot) due to ROH being big with the internet crowd. Another funny thing is the constant spinning of their numbers. What an f'n joke. For years people would right off any TV show or PPV as a failure if they drew TNA like numbers. Now all of sudden people are like these numbers that TNA pulls in are great. They are on the rise on and will take over the wrestling world. Nothing more than B.S. spin jobs and hyprocrisy with the net when it comes to TNA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Desperate Housewife Report post Posted January 29, 2006 There's no proof that HHH has political power in the WWE anyway. Talk to me when Jarrett buries Samoa Joe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2006 There's no proof that HHH has political power in the WWE anyway. Are you really serious? Wow, and to think you are attacking OTHERS for being naive about a product - good lord..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Desperate Housewife Report post Posted January 29, 2006 I wouldn't say naive. Most people here are blinded by WWE hate, nothing more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2006 Typical hypocrisy here and elsewhere on the board. Like with the bait and switch talk. Funny how all the smarks and all the dirt sheet and news site reporters didn't say a word when TNA hyped Sting for their TV show last week and didn't deliver. Instead at the end they announced that he will show up next week. Ofcourse, all these hypocrital pieces of trash bash WWE if they ever do anything like this. One of the stupidest things I have read recently is the defense of TNA ripping off ROH ideas like with Generation Next, etc. All the smarks and even one of the sheet reporters say that TNA ripping off good ideas from ROH is smart business. WHat a load of crap. These are the same people that bash WWE for taking ECW ideas to create the attitude era and they talk about how they're so evil and uncreative for doing this. They always moan about WWE picking on the little guys.Yet, it's very clear that TNA can't really do anything on their own to get by. TNA mainly relies on people with past national names to carry them, especially if they're just exiting WWE. The only non-national talents they go after are the ones from ROH(whom they rip off a lot) due to ROH being big with the internet crowd. Another funny thing is the constant spinning of their numbers. What an f'n joke. For years people would right off any TV show or PPV as a failure if they drew TNA like numbers. Now all of sudden people are like these numbers that TNA pulls in are great. They are on the rise on and will take over the wrestling world. Nothing more than B.S. spin jobs and hyprocrisy with the net when it comes to TNA. There is, ironically enough, alot of "spin jobs and hypocrisy" in your statements here. Let me just grab one example... The ratings/numbers. Given the time that the show airs, and the general state of the business (in that it's struggling in general for viewership), yes, a .9 rating IS good. Now maybe years ago, it would be a different case, when everyone's ratings and numbers were respectable and dare I say, kick ass, across the board. But WWE has fallen down to the 3s and 4s from the days of the 6 and 7s, and the ppv numbers are, generally speaking, not groundbreaking these days, give and take a few ppv shows that are the exception. It all comes down to what the network was hoping for as well, which was lower than what was produced. So of course it wasnt a failure. If TNA isnt on the rise, then why is WWE internally worried about their growth this coming year? I would love to go further breaking apart your post, but I highly doubt you will get it anyway and will just continue to bitch about the same damn thing you are doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2006 I wouldn't say naive. Most people here are blinded by WWE hate, nothing more Ahhh yes, we all just loathe WWE in every form, so by default we just HAVE to LOOOOOVE TNA. Uh huh. If everyone who didnt like WWE just comes over here and creams over the TNA product, wouldnt we have alot more people posting here? You're wanting WWE hate gone in the WWE folder, so does alot of people. But the answer is NOT to turn the same thing you are bitching about into something of the same kind here. It's counterproductive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2006 I thought the buildup for Sabu/Abyss barbed wire match was so strong that they really couldn't go anywhere else with it. It was also a fun time. Stop being a girl. It was one of the best built midcard feuds in a long time, TNA and WWE included. So really, whats the point of crying when they go all out for the blow off? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2006 There's no proof that HHH has political power in the WWE anyway. Talk to me when Jarrett buries Samoa Joe Dumbass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buffybeast 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2006 There's no proof that HHH has political power in the WWE anyway. Are you really serious? Good Lord, you can't be serious. HHH has been a power player in WWF for a decade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Desperate Housewife Report post Posted January 30, 2006 Proof? Anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites