The list of 141 Programs Bush wants to cut or eliminate for 2007 budge

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I'll spare the long list.. and just give you the Education stuff:

 

GONE COMPLETELY:

 

Educational technology state grants, $272 million

Even Start, $99 million

High school programs terminations:

Vocational education state grants, $1,182 million

Vocational education national programs, $9 million

Upward Bound, $311 million

GEAR UP, $303 million

Talent search, $145 million

Tech prep state grants, $105 million

Smaller learning communities, $94 million

Safe and Drug-Free Schools state grants, $347 million

 

Elementary and secondary education program terminations:

Parental information and resource centers, $40 million

Arts in education, $35 million

Elementary and secondary school counseling, $35 million

Alcohol abuse reduction, $32 million

Civic education, $29 million

National Writing Project, $22 million

Star Schools, $15 million

School leadership,$15 million

Ready to Teach, $11 million

Javits gifted and talented education, $10 million

Exchanges with Historic Whaling and Trading Partners, $9 million

Comprehensive school reform, $8 million

Dropout prevention program, $5 million

Mental Health integration in schools, $5 million

Women's Educational Equity, $3 million

Academies for American History and Civics, $2 million

Close-Up fellowships, $1 million

Foundations for Learning, $1 million

Excellence in Economic Education, $1 million

 

Higher Education Programs:

Education demos for students with disabilities, $7 million

Underground Railroad Program, $2 million

State grants for incarcerated youth offenders, $23 million

 

Postsecondary Student Financial Assistance Programs:

Perkins Loan cancellations, $65 million

Leveraging educational assistance programs, $65 million

Byrd Scholarships, $41 million

Thurgood Marshall Legal Educational opportunity, $3 million

B.J. Stupak Olympic scholarships, $1 million

 

Vocational rehabilitation programs:

 

Supported employment, $30 million

Projects with industry, $20 million

Recreational programs, $3 million

Migrant and seasonal farmworkers,$2 million

Teacher Quality Enhancement, $60 million

 

Total $3,468 million

 

Cuts

 

Perkins Loans Institutional Fund recall, $664 million

Teaching American history, $71 million

Physical education, $47 million

Mentoring program, $30 million

 

Total $811 million

 

Thats real nice. I didnt have time to do the math, but it looks like all the other cuts alone barely equal the cuts in Education alone.

[Vampiro69 0]

I love the fact that as a new teacher starting this spring, we have to deal with all these programs being cut. I know cuts had to be made but it is hard enough for the states to comply with No Child Left Behind, but with these cuts it is even going to be more of a challenge.

[CheesalaIsGood 0]

Well they gotta siphon the money out of the war from SOMEWHERE!

[CanadianGuitarist 0]

It's a drop in the bucket of course, but the First Tee Program's annual fund of 5 million? Probably gone, I would think.

 

Bad news for a prospective golf pro like myself.

 

Fucks sakes.

[Guest InuYasha]

Myself and one of my uncles are the "black sheep" in the family, because we're Democrats. When my mom started talking about how Bush made an excellent speech at the SOTU Address, I just had to pop-up and say, "Yeah, for a Democrat."

 

Bush goes on and on in his speech about the need for better education, and now he's sitting there on his hands like the chimp he is, while his party in Congress pisses away all the money for education. How are we going to get our nation into the second half of this century, when a student who's 5-10 years old today will be paying off college loans well into his or her 50's?

 

I hope this country wakes up soon, or we'll all find ourselves poorer than shit, but too stupid to know it.

[Art Sandusky 0]

We won't all be poor. A healthy 1-5% will live quite comfortably.

[Guest InuYasha]

We won't all be poor. A healthy 1-5% will live quite comfortably.

Great Depression Round II, here we come.....

[dh86 0]

smh....

[Ced 0]

Nothing like insuring an even wider educational gap in the future when compared to the rest of the world.

 

Go US!

[dh86 0]

and big business wont care..all theyd have to do is outsource more...get the tax break and cut more salaries for higher skilled worsers overseas

[SuperJerk 0]

This is a Congressional election year. I have faith most of the money will be put back in.

 

The Rpublicans love to defend their tax cut by claiming its driving economic growth, but I have yet to see any real evidence of that. Jusr repealing part of that cut could more than may for restoring this money.

[CheesalaIsGood 0]

Gee and maybe if there were higher paying, more rewarding jobs out there even for the "unskilled" the economy would grow because more people would have more money to spend on the stupid shit corporations insist we buy BUY BUY! Nah, that would never work.

[CanadianChris 0]

C'mon, if Bush made it to the top, how valuable can education really be, anyway?

[Guest InuYasha]

C'mon, if Bush made it to the top, how valuable can education really be, anyway?

Sorry, CC, but Bush isn't the example of stupid people getting a good break; he's the ultimate example of nepotism in the modern age.

[The Czech Republic 0]

C'mon, if Bush made it to the top, how valuable can education really be, anyway?

durrr bsuh is teh dumbest

[Stephen Joseph 0]

I'm all for keeping an educational gap.

 

Better job security for smart folks like me

 

 

 

 

 

 

btw, I am kidding

[BX 0]

No you're not.

[iggymcfly 0]

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I'll spare the long list.. and just give you the Education stuff:

 

GONE COMPLETELY:

 

Total $3.468 billion

 

Cuts

 

Total $811 million

 

Finally, Bush does something that I agree with. Now if we could just get him to find the $6 billion that "disappeared" in Iraq, and then maybe pull out of Iraq altogether and save $120 billion, we might really be on the way to fixing the budget.

[super_tigris 0]

I don't know how serious anyone is about "Great Depression: Round II", but to be honest, it's going to require a whole hell of a lot more than education budget cuts to insight something even close to what happened in the 20's and 30's, especially on such a global level.

 

And on an ironic level, what brough us out of the Depression originally was War.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

what brough us out of the Depression originally was War.

 

See Sweden, 1934.

[Guest Brian]

Whatever happened to Saddam's gold?

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Well, instead of cutting the education budget, why don't we just admit that the government has no business running the education system and simply privatize the whole damn thing already?

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Well, instead of cutting the education budget, why don't we just admit that the government has no business running the education system and simply privatize the whole damn thing already?

 

http://www.cals.ncsu.edu/agexed/aee501/mann.html

 

http://www.iep.utm.edu/d/dewey.htm

[SuperJerk 0]

Well, instead of cutting the education budget, why don't we just admit that the government has no business running the education system and simply privatize the whole damn thing already?

 

Even if you privatize education, it still has to be publicly funded or else you'll end up in a situation where some families simply can't afford to send their kids to school.

[Justice 0]

Not only that, but you risk objectivity, among other things.

 

The key to a free society lies in public education. By allowing for a 'free-market education system', you inevitably get lower quality schools for people who have less money. It's actually too efficient in the movement of resources in the sense that good teachers will always move to higher paying jobs, which will inevitably be in the richest neighborhoods. Education needs to be subsidized to an extent, so that everyone gets a fair shot.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Not only that, but you risk objectivity, among other things.

 

The key to a free society lies in public education. By allowing for a 'free-market education system', you inevitably get lower quality schools for people who have less money. It's actually too efficient in the movement of resources in the sense that good teachers will always move to higher paying jobs, which will inevitably be in the richest neighborhoods. Education needs to be subsidized to an extent, so that everyone gets a fair shot.

 

?!?!

[Justice 0]

I've always argued this. I'm the son and grand-son of Detroit Public Schools teachers, for God's sakes. I've seen just about every school you can see, private and public. For me, it's just simple observation.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Fine...if we can't privatize it, what about a voucher system where each child gets money attached to them every year, and schools have to compete to recruit that child if they want the money? (If that makes sense).

 

I just think we need to run schools more like businesses and less like inefficient socialist-style institutions.

[Art Sandusky 0]

Making anything more like a business will only lead to mass inequality in that arena. See also: lobbyists, Lawmakers' relationships with.

[SuperJerk 0]

Fine...if we can't privatize it, what about a voucher system where each child gets money attached to them every year, and schools have to compete to recruit that child if they want the money? (If that makes sense).

 

I just think we need to run schools more like businesses and less like inefficient socialist-style institutions.

I have some very strong concerns about a voucher system that have to do with simple supply and demand:

 

1. What is preventing private schools from charging more than the voucher is worth? You'd be back to square one since the kids who can't afford private schools into would still not able to afford private schools.

 

2. The demand for private education will be greater than the supply. This will lead to stiff tuition hikes until you are back to square one since the kids who can't afford private schools into would still not able to afford private schools.

 

3. Private schools are allowed to be selective about who they admit (this also explains why they appear to get better results). A kid who has gone to a bad school his whole life still wouldn't be able to get in because he wouldn't be able to meet the private school entrance requirements. This is especially true since there would now be greater competition to get in.

 

I don't see a problem with creating a system of charter schools that are publicly funded, except for the fact that a private company would have to step up and do the creating.

 

By contrast, the track we're on right now is starting to work. Thanks to NCLB, districts now have a monetary incentive to hold teachers and students to higher standards. (I'd argue, though, that NCLB is a mixed bag. It sets the bar a little too high, because it doesn't exempt kids who are mentally retarded from testing, and expects every child at some point in the future to score average or above average on state tests. It also sets the bar too low because it allows individual states to establish where the 5 levels of competency should be, so places like Arkansas look like geniuses while kids in Kansas look like they're falling behind.)