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Why does WWE continue to put on womens matches?

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The same reason bars have female mud wrestling. I hope your not judging the work rate and giving those star ratings too.

Paying a cover charge for water down beer is not acceptable and neither is watching a diva botch a simple wrestling move.

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Because girls are more likely to fall out of their top wrestling than just standing there.

 

To be perfectly honest, it's better now than it was even 6 months ago, before Mickie debuted.

 

 

Yeah, but it still sucks more than it did 1-2 years ago before they released all the wrestlers and hired all these diva winners...

 

the women made alot of the male wrestlerls look like chumps

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I also think its funny that if someone looks like they're picking some things up, they're either cut totally (Christy) or never wrestle again (Candice) now, neither were good, but Christy was improving and Candice who, lets face it, has no reason to even try in the ring, was clearly picking up some little things for her heel work.

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The argument that the women wrestle for T&A purposes is not a good one. There are much more effective ways to accomplish gratuitous T&A without having to put on terrible matches which expose the buisness, like mud wrestling matches or pillow fights, or just random take off your clothes in the middle of the ring for no reason segments that would serve the same purpose. If WWE was being completely blunt about the fact that this is the only reason these women exist, and for nothing else, that's fine, but putting them in the ring and attempting to work a match is not only bad, it's insulting to the people that really can wrestle. Obviously someone somewhere thinks it's a good idea to keep allowing Ashley to wrestle every week even though she gets worse and worse each time she steps in the ring.

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Women belong in the kitchen, not in a wrestling ring.

 

 

 

 

There, now with the majority of the folder's real opinion out of the way, Trish/Mickie's probably the only storyline on Raw with anything you could call 'good build-up'. They've been brave enough to give the feud a slow build and they're actually developing a character (Mickie's), which they could really benefit from doing more often. Mickie's played her character pretty well too. The competition as far as WWE women goes is pretty flattering on her, but Mickie isn't great shakes in the ring and she never was as far as I can remember.

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I tend to think Trish is really damn overrated as far as in-ring work goes. I mean granted, when working with the right person a Trish match can be watchable, but it seems like half her move set, like the Matrix thing, and the standing on her hands and hurrancanrana-ing the opponent off the top rope, are so slow to be setup that it looks too damn forced. Other then that, she is just as punchy and kicky as any other female, of course she does make it look better, but nevertheless still bland.

 

Victoria I'd say is the best female worker on the WWE roster.

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I love Victoria, but her ring work's been really sloppy for about the last year. I almost think Molly and Trish were carrying her fine ass all that time.

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Women belong in the kitchen, not in a wrestling ring.

 

Fuck you.

 

I think KC was just stating what the majority's opinion is, not his. He's a big fan of women's wrestling (indy stuff) as far as I know.

 

You know, when I said it's better now than 6 months ago, I must admit, I did momentarly forget about Ashley wrestling every fucking week, so I admit I was wrong there.

 

The reason why they don't do shit like mud wrestling is a lame attempt to appear as if they aren't degrading the women, and see, they're wrestling! Sorta, kinda, if you squint....that was a hiptoss!

 

One of the worst things is having someone like Jillian Hall, who apparently is competent in the ring, as strictly a valet while Ashley and Torrie, not trained fully, are wrestlers. Huh? Oh, and they have Beth Pheonix and Shelley (she's trained, right OVW fans? Help a sista out here...) in OVW strictly as valets too, and they are trained. And they recently signed Shantelle Taylor and, ah dammit, that chick from Team Blondage to a development deal, and they are trained too. It's just like, where the fuck are they going with this? It's like randomly signing ROH guys and never using them on TV, but having someone like Chris Masters who barely seems trained when he first comes in.

 

In conclusion: WWE confuses me.

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As a company, the WWE is driven by a misplaced notion of what is "marketable". Marketability, of course, being something which is determined by a 60 year old egomaniac with a body-building fetish.

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Why would anyone want to watch womens wrestling? Especially American Womens wrestling.

 

I quite enjoy women's wrestling in the indy market actually. Alot of those girl's strikes look believable, and some of the selling is great too, because hey, chicks are more sympathetic than males are. I think it's a little unfair to base American women's wrestling on just WWE product if you've never seen the indies version.

 

If you have Rudo, than never mind. But have you seen some of the more proclaimed American women indies? Shimmer, or anything to that extent?

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Ok, Girls and Gay guys would watch womens wrestling. Fair enough.

 

I don't watch anything named Shimmer. I had my affair with that sort of thing back when I watched JEM and She-ra and felt very, very ashamed of it... never again.

 

Hey, there, buddy...JEM was outrageous. Truly, truly outrageous.

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...alright then. Is Supergirls better? Ahhhhh, yeah. Women promotions have sorta lame names, eh? GLOW, WOW, ah geez.

 

There could be a market for it, but I doubt that WWE will be the company to test that theory. A shame too, because I think a women's division with attractive females that can actually wrestle would be surprisingly successful. Best of both worlds, and everyone has something there.

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The problem is finding enough attractive women who also can put on believable performances in the ring... and more importantly, look like they can put a hurting on people, while still remaining attractive.

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You get the Gilmore Girls part?

 

I think my own like for women's matches comes from wanting to see women do more than just look pretty, as well as the faint, insignificant chance that consistent respectable women's matches will lead to a degree of respect for them in a business that lags about 75 years behind the rest of society. I'd check out the Japanese women's stuff, but the enjoyment for me is in watching improvement as opposed to seeing those who are already good. Trish became one of my overall (male or female) favorites every week because she looked to put a lot of effort into what she was doing starting in late 2001 and it shows now. The T&A Trish lived in an alternate universe in my mind.

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The problem is finding enough attractive women who also can put on believable performances in the ring... and more importantly, look like they can put a hurting on people, while still remaining attractive.

 

Well, let's be brutally honest here: in WWE, you just have to be decent looking and have a good body. Makeup can do wonders, and I think the girls in WWE prove that.

 

I think there are certainly enough females out there that are better than decent in the ring and as attractive as the Divas with the right amount of makeup. Hell, just look at the recent Shimmer show. Sure, there are a couple girls there that aren't very attractive, but most of them are fine with a couple of fixes here and there by WWE standards. Lacey, Rain, Daizee Haze, Rebecca Knox, Shantelle Taylor (already signed), Krissy Vaine (THAT's her name! Already signed), Tiana Ringer, Cheerleader Melissa and Nikki Rox (that might be the wrong name actually...) with a tan are all attractive enough, and are all fine in the ring and believable enough. I'm sure women indy freaks will chime in here too with others I'm missing or some they disagree with, but the point remains. WWE will never have a division more than 8, just like with the cruiser division. There are more than 8 attractive, good enough wrestlers on the indy market, and all of them are young too.

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