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[Guest stringerbell]

Bret has been talking to people from TNA like Scott D'Amore, Borash, and Double J. All along Jarrett said in his gut he wouldn't do anything with them despite the others in creative and management hoping he would. Meltzer said when Jarrett got word that the announcement from Raw was made at the taping about him in for the Hall, he told people "I told you so". Meltzer said WWE may try and make Hart sign a legends contract but Bret is name enough where he could refuse. But if he signs it, it would no doubt stop him from appearing on TNA TV. He said at the moment a second Bret DVD is planned as well as a photo type coffee table book.

 

186 people voted TNA Against All Odds a "Thumbs Up". There were 0 "thumbs down", and one in the middle and

Meltzer gave Christian/JJ ***1/4, Joe/Daniels/AJ ****1/4, and Team 3D vs. Team Canada ***1/4.

 

Tommy Dreamer told CM Punk that he could work ROH's date last Sat. with the conditions of he couldn't be advertised, he couldn't job, he couldn't wrestle or be involved with anyone from TNA, and it could only be a one time thing. From there Dreamer left to do an indie date in England. He didn't tell anyone else in WWE that he gave Punk permission including Johnny Ace.

 

Meltzer said the situation "exploded" at Raw on Monday. Vince and Steph went up to Ace and gave him a bunch of heat asking him why he let a member of WWE appear on a show with "so many TNA stars". Even though a lot of the wrestlers by this time knew that Punk did the ROH show, Meltzer said Ace was "blindsided" by the McMahon's appoarch. All the heat then went to Punk and he told them Dreamer approved of it, so then Dreamer got the final heat. Meltzer said from day one guys like HHH, HBK, Hayes, and even Arn Anderson have been all over Punk about his work rate. Anderson goes along with HHH and says that Punk "copies" a lot of popular moves from Japan. Meltzer also added that Punk's relationship with Maria "doesn't help matters".

 

No one really knows what WWE's meeting with Simon Inoki was about but it probably had a lot to do with Brock's situation. Meltzer said at one point WWE was even thinking about going as far as suing New Japan to stop Brock around the world. However that has cooled and they would have a hardtime doing it since NJPW is Tokyo based. They put Simon's picture up on WWE.com in order to mess with TNA since they had a working agreement with NJPW. So it's clear with this and the ROH show that WWE is growing concerned about TNA.

 

Possible big news in TNA is that Goldberg seems really interested in maybe doing a few dates down the line. He said he wants to prove himself before retiring from wrestling because his WM match with Brock isn't how he wants to end it. Also Meltzer says he is interested in helping TNA grow a bit because he hates Vince McMahon so much that he won't even say his name.

 

Christian has the ball and TNA is going to give him every chance with it and they will do what they can for him. There is no set date as to when he will drop it so no mention at this point as to who he would drop it too. Meltzer said based on that, he could have a two month run, or it could be a year.

 

Christian was tired of the road in WWE and by going to TNA he felt it would give him a chance to rest his body up. It seems to be a trend these days, but he is another from the pro wrestling world that hopes to make it in acting. He also saw there was nothing more WWE was going to do with him as far as titles so part of the deal sealer with TNA was that he would get the belt and be in main events. Meltzer notes the trouble is they kept bringing attention to him being a mid-carder in WWE. Now he's NWA World Champ which makes him and the company look second rate to those that will remember seeing him getting squashed over and over by WWE's then World Champ Batista.

 

Sting is expected to return at the TNA March ppv in some sort of a run in/save.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

See, there's an upside and a downside to every time a midcarder jumps from one promotion to another and gets into the main event. The upside is that it shows off more of what that worker can do and gives the new promotion the image of allowing "held down" guys the chance to succeed, and the downside is the obvious of having a guy who was owned by the opposition's champion(s) representing the best you have.

 

I like how WWE considers TNA a threat now. It's good because it means that they may just improve the product, but, of course, the negative is that they'll try to discredit and possibly destroy TNA.

[Magus 0]

-Goldberg and Bret could be huge for TNA if used right. It's weird that Jarrett doesn't think Bret would come to TNA (or maybe doesn't want him to?).

 

-As long as Christian keeps proving himself, the WWE midcarder stigma will soon vanish.

 

-WWE might let CM Punk go at some point, but then again, they might just keep him so TNA can't have him. I swear, if Punk got loose of them and came to TNA, that's an instant main eventer.

[AlaskanHero 0]

I just want to say that it's a shame that WWE has Bret Hart's legacy literally held hostage.

[SuperJerk 0]

See, there's an upside and a downside to every time a midcarder jumps from one promotion to another and gets into the main event. The upside is that it shows off more of what that worker can do and gives the new promotion the image of allowing "held down" guys the chance to succeed, and the downside is the obvious of having a guy who was owned by the opposition's champion(s) representing the best you have.

This depends on how much your audience buys into kafabe, though. I'd wager the vast majority of TNA's audience realizes the only reason why Christian wasn't given a world title reign in WWE was because of preconcieved notions about having a certain "look".

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

"WWE might let CM Punk go at some point, but then again, they might just keep him so TNA can't have him"

 

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Well...it is why they signed him in the first place.

[Magus 0]

"WWE might let CM Punk go at some point, but then again, they might just keep him so TNA can't have him"

 

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Well...it is why they signed him in the first place.

 

Well, everyone seems to disapprove of him, and he's causing a lot of strife. WWE could cut their ties with him and say its not working out, or they could keep punishing Punk, themselves, us, and TNA by keeping him.

[Hawk 34 0]

"WWE might let CM Punk go at some point, but then again, they might just keep him so TNA can't have him"

 

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Well...it is why they signed him in the first place.

 

Well, everyone seems to disapprove of him, and he's causing a lot of strife. WWE could cut their ties with him and say its not working out, or they could keep punishing Punk, themselves, us, and TNA by keeping him.

 

They will have no problems keeping his squared away in OVW for 2 years and after 10 OVW world title reigns.

[Guest El Satanico]

I'd say the only fans that really care about the whole "yeah, but he was a mid carder" stuff, are ones blind to anything not named WWe.

 

I see no reason why a TNA fan or simply a wrestling fan would put any stock into it.

[Scroby 0]

"WWE might let CM Punk go at some point, but then again, they might just keep him so TNA can't have him"

 

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Well...it is why they signed him in the first place.

 

Well, everyone seems to disapprove of him, and he's causing a lot of strife. WWE could cut their ties with him and say its not working out, or they could keep punishing Punk, themselves, us, and TNA by keeping him.

 

They will have no problems keeping his squared away in OVW for 2 years and after 10 OVW world title reigns.

 

I hate to say it but WWE is going to do to CM Punk what they did to Nova. They'll hide him away for a few years than bring up in some horrible gimmick

[TNABaddboi 0]

-As long as Christian keeps proving himself, the WWE midcarder stigma will soon vanish.

 

This depends on how much your audience buys into kafabe, though. I'd wager the vast majority of TNA's audience realizes the only reason why Christian wasn't given a world title reign in WWE was because of preconcieved notions about having a certain "look".

 

I agree with both of these points. TNA's audience is much difference than WWE's....TNA's audience accepted both Raven and Rhino as headliners, and neither ever was a prominent in WWE as Christian was. And in Christian's case, just about every TNA fans knows that he was talented and over enough to warrant a much higher position on the cards, so the "all I needed was opportunity" stuff rallied them behind him more. The whole midcarder thing is because people have gotten used to WWE being the only game in town for awhile. At the height of the WWF/WCW/ECW, each company polished people off the other's scrap head. Austin was a midcarder in WCW and became the biggest star of the era. So was Mick Foley. Raven was Johnny friggin' Polo before become ECW's biggest draw. The list goes on. Scott Hall had some memorable matches in WWF as Razor Ramon, but he was never put in the company's top angles like he was in the NWO. But now, TNA takes a Christian or a Rhino, pushes them because they're talented and gets them over, and it's frowned upon. It doesn't make any sense to me at all.

[Guest Desperate Housewife]

Well...people respected ECW for taking the Big Two's castoffs and making something of them. No one respects Jeff and his merry band of rejects-who-hate-Vince.

 

 

And in Christian's case, I stress the word REJECT. My cousin, who's never watched TNA, broke his shit laughing when I told him that Christian was a World Champ in a third rate promotion

[Twisted Intestine 0]

Well...people respected ECW for taking the Big Two's castoffs and making something of them. No one respects Jeff and his merry band of rejects-who-hate-Vince.

 

 

And in Christian's case, I stress the word REJECT. My cousin, who's never watched TNA, broke his shit laughing when I told him that Christian was a World Champ in a third rate promotion

 

Your whole family is fat, aren't you?

[Guest Desperate Housewife]

By the way - I love the WWE catches shit for every pseudo racist/exploitative angle they do - but TNAgets a free pass for having a friggin BORDER PATROL gimmick

 

 

TNA Management - racist

[Astro101 0]

I like that the WWE is starting to get scared of TNA or at least seeing them in the rear view mirror. And Goldberg...I dunno, it'd be interesting but it'd also be TNA and Spike paying a lot of money for a backstage ass, unless he wants to actually help TNA just to piss Vince off.

[Zack Malibu 0]

I don't know what kind of wrestling you've been watching, but there have been Border Patrol gimmicks for YEARS now. There were also Nazi heels that goose-stepped back in the day. Why don't you dig up Fritz Von Erich and tell him off for being such a bastard for doing that. Also, I highly doubt TNA management is racist seeing as how Ron Killings got two World Title reigns and gets a sizable push, and a group of Latinos is in a main storyline. Oh, can't forget about the Mexicans and the Japanese guys in the highly touted X tournaments either. But yeah, break out your marshmallows for all those burning crosses at Universal. Twat.

 

Also, I don't know what you're talking about no one respecting TNA, because I respect them. I respect them for doing something different, for giving younger/under utilized talent a chance, and for gaining the balls to stand up to the WWE despite the fact that even I as a TNA fan know they're not ready to go head to head yet.

[Guest Desperate Housewife]

The Harris Twits wearing "SS" Shirts and declaring they don't work with "Their Kind".

 

Just saying. I'm more offended by THAT than Randy Orton "exploiting" the deatn of Guerrero

[Zack Malibu 0]

The Harris Twits wearing "SS" Shirts and declaring they don't work with "Their Kind".

 

Just saying. I'm more offended by THAT than Randy Orton "exploiting" the deatn of Guerrero

 

Are you back on that. It was an incident not planned by TNA management, and the person wearing the shirt in question was reprimanded for it. Has that drilled through that thick skull yet? The actions of one man, who faced the music for it, do not define a whole company.

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

The Border Patrol gimmick was used in one match AGAINST the LAX. Sure, LAX are heels...but yeah.

 

 

And besides, if you don't like this, what were you saying when JBL did it?

[Guest Desperate Housewife]

Thats my point - TNA aren't catching shit for it - but WWE got tons of shit for JBl's stuff. Not that they cared.

 

 

Which, in a roundabout way, proves my point about the WWE: They do better when they ignore what people want and do what they (as in Vince and Steph) want. A guy in the OAO No Way Out Thread bitched that Orton still wasn't over as a heel. Well that's your fault for not doing as your told and treating him as one.

[Mystery Eskimo 0]

So its the fans fault that WWE is so bad? Awesome logic.

[Guest Desperate Housewife]

You're not supportive enough when shit happens they can't control (Like Lesnar walking out, forcing them to push JBL too fast)

[Si82 0]

You're not supportive enough when shit happens they can't control (Like Lesnar walking out, forcing them to push JBL too fast)

Why should people support them for allowing things like Brock to walk and pushing a guy to fast. Surely, these are mistakes by WWE. So why should people get behind them for being stupid?

 

You're just a brainwashed WWE fan. Why the hell should people just react the way McMahon wants?

 

And for the love of God, get over this "TNA management is racist" crap will ya.

 

In fact, just stay out of the TNA folder all together you troll.

[Stephen Joseph 0]

agreed

[SuperJerk 0]

And in Christian's case, I stress the word REJECT. My cousin, who's never watched TNA, broke his shit laughing when I told him that Christian was a World Champ in a third rate promotion

Is "World Champ in a third rate promotion" exactly how you worded it when you told him about it?

 

For the record, there are better ways of convincing other people that Christian is a "reject" than by telling us your cousin "broke his shit laughing" since:

(1) I don't know who the fuck your cousin is,

(2) he's never actually watched TNA and has no right to judge it, and

(3) I have no fucking clue what "broke his shit laughing" even means.

Edited February 20, 2006 by Y2Jerk

[Guest Coffey]

That wasn't funny.

[RedJed 0]

Ok so DH continues to troll in the TNA folder, and he/she also attacks people in the WWE folder for being unfair, etc, etc. When can this person be banned? They offer no insight to either this or the WWE folder. It's absurd a ban hasnt occured months ago. There is no such thing as even "discussion" with this person. It's pathetic. We've given him/her enough chances to "cool off" or get a grip or whatever. Cmon mods!

 

This shit just makes me not want to post here regularly because when a decent subject always comes around, here is DH to piss on it and all is lost as everyone just wants to bitch back to DH- which is understandable since the whole point appears to be for DH to just get people pissed off in the first place.

[SuperJerk 0]

That wasn't funny.

The point's still valid, regardless.

 

edit: Just fixed it.

Edited February 20, 2006 by Y2Jerk

[Dangerous A 0]

You're not supportive enough when shit happens they can't control (Like Lesnar walking out, forcing them to push JBL too fast)

 

 

Just the other day, I had a filet mignon cooked to perfection at this local restaurant. Lately, I've been on somewhat of a bad streak when it comes to finding a good filet mignon, but this place did it perfectly.

[2GOLD 0]

Ok so DH continues to troll in the TNA folder, and he/she also attacks people in the WWE folder for being unfair, etc, etc. When can this person be banned? They offer no insight to either this or the WWE folder. It's absurd a ban hasnt occured months ago. There is no such thing as even "discussion" with this person. It's pathetic. We've given him/her enough chances to "cool off" or get a grip or whatever. Cmon mods!

 

This shit just makes me not want to post here regularly because when a decent subject always comes around, here is DH to piss on it and all is lost as everyone just wants to bitch back to DH- which is understandable since the whole point appears to be for DH to just get people pissed off in the first place.

 

Most of us just laugh and ignore him as it's become painfully obvious he's a gimmick. He showed up around the same time people complained the WWE folder was too negative and wasn't enough serious discussion.

 

Whoever it is, they do a bang up job at playing the role. It's like watching Jim Carrey as Andy Kaufman.