Giuseppe Zangara 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2006 Accents are rarely noticable when singing because most Brit singers are trying to appeal to an American audience. And "Changes" sounds nothing like Dylan. Weird. I was looking at Pitchfork's 100 Best Albums of the 1970s list again, recently. I still think it's the best of those kind of lists they've done, but I'd forgotten just how low (har har) Hunky Dory ranked. Fuck yeah, it's the best thing he's ever done. Which is saying a lot. One more thing: how does an avowed anglophile like Kinetic not know that "gash" can be used pejoratively? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2006 Re Bowie first sides: It could just as easily be Ziggy. I find it really hard to pick between "Changes" and "Five Years," "Oh You Pretty Things" and "Starman." "Kooks" is a slight weak spot for me, but I guess you could say the same of "It Ain't Easy." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giuseppe Zangara 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2006 I love "Kooks." If you're gonna pick a weak spot from side one of that album, "Eight Line Poem" is right there, sleepwalking between "Oh! You Pretty Things" and "Life on Mars?" Whatta downer. By the way, Tindersticks do a fine cover of "Kooks." They make that song sound like death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2006 I love me some "Eight Line Poem." It's a perfect transitional piece and gets right at me. "Kooks" isn't bad by any stretch. It's just probably a 6 or 7 on my scale while everything else is a 9 or 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giuseppe Zangara 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2006 I would be fine with "Eight Line Poem" as a transitional piece, but one that's track three on an 11-song, 40-minute album? Who needs a break then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2006 I also think it's a great little twangy song on its own, too. I may also just be a grandma who likes his breaks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted March 22, 2006 I think the worst track on that album is "Andy Warhol." My favorite varies when I'm listening to it. Probably "The Bewlay Brothers" averages the best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted March 22, 2006 I'll probably always like Low more. Eno's a genius, the record is totally unique, and despite being economical timewise, feels like two different albums. The hooks are there in spades, with the opener, and tracks like "Always Crashing in the Same Car" and "Be my Wife." I get the piano line from the latter in my head at least once a week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giuseppe Zangara 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2006 Eno's involvement in Low has always been overstated. Yes, he appears on the album and the work he did on his own throughout the 70s was definitely on Bowie's mind during recording, but the overall execution is Bowie's and producer Tony Visconti's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted March 23, 2006 I wouldn't say it's overstated. Look at how different the Berlin albums are from the much of the rest of his material. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2006 The only reason why Changes reminds me of Dylan is because of Bowies vocals. Or maybe its just such a Dylan-esque song. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Copper Feel 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2006 The vocals on Changes remind me more of Sinatra (the verses anyway) than Dylan, Bowie completley croons it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2006 re: CHANGES some of you needs to clean out your ears. dylan? sinatra? it sounds like bowie, you fucking queers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giuseppe Zangara 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2006 I wouldn't say it's overstated. Look at how different the Berlin albums are from the much of the rest of his material. I acknowledged the influence, but have you heard Bowie's Station to Station? It's the album he did before Low; while sounding neither like Low nor Eno, you can hear that he was heading in that direction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted March 24, 2006 I own that one. Heading in that direction, sure, but it seems to me Eno's involvement tweaked those ideas to further the whole presentation and make the experimentation successful on Low. That album never drags for me, whereas I get tired of Station to Station if I hear it too much. Basically, I think Low is made up of smaller pieces that add up to a great finished product. Station to Station is all big pieces that don't quite gel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giuseppe Zangara 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2006 Oh, I definitely prefer Low to Station to Station—the former is my favorite Bowie after Hunky Dory—but I'm saying the pieces were there for Low, without being very Eno-y. Station to Station drags in spots, sure, but the highs are so very high. The title track, particularly during the "it's too late" conclusion, gives me chills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted March 24, 2006 Come to think of it, name a back to back to back grouping of albums better than Station to Station, Low, and Heroes. There's some I'd rank higher, but that's an incredible stretch of creativity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Copper Feel 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2006 Bowie has better himself with Hunky Dory - The Rise and Fall Of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars - Alladin Sane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notJames 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2006 Just got the Singles Collection, and I'm definitely interested in getting more of his albums. Side note: Nick Lowe put out an album called "Bowi" because he jokingly said that Bowie's "Low" was his name without the "e", so he followed suit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Si82 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2006 I picked up "Hunky Dory" today and I'm looking forward to giving it a listen. I've also picked up "Heathen", "Reality" and "Best of Bowie" in sales. Haven't given any of them a full listen yet but I'll post my thoughts when I do. To think, at the start of the week I only owned one Bowie album, "Ziggy Stardust". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5_moves_of_doom 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2006 After listening to Low for the first time in a while last night, I have concluded that the following are my top five Bowie albums: 1.) Low 2.) Hunky Dory 3.) Heroes 4.) Ziggy Stardust 5.) Station to Station EDIT: I never really did like Aladdin Sane too much, for reasons that I can't really explain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted March 27, 2006 I'd put mine in the exact same order. Weird. The only exception might be Scary Monsters over Station to Station. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giuseppe Zangara 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2006 Hunky Dory Low Scary Monsters Aladdin Sane TRAFOZSATSFM Still never checked out Lodger. What kind of fan am I? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted March 27, 2006 The kind that likes Hunky Dory more than Low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giuseppe Zangara 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2006 This is supposed to be a really good book: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2006 i haven't heard heroes yet. too busy listening to hunky dory. mine would be hunky dory ziggy low alladin sane scary monsters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giuseppe Zangara 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2006 Anyone here see The Man Who Fell to Earth? Criterion put out a nice two disc set of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kinetic 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2006 I would have difficulty rating Low over Hunky Dory based totally on the ambient side 2, which is interesting in theory (and pretty ballsy for a major commercial artist to do) but not something I'm compelled to listen to all that often. My list would go: Hunky Dory Low Ziggy Stardust "Heroes" Station to Station And, really, I'm no anglophile. My interest in British culture begins and ends with rock music. I think I posted something a while back about meeting this girl who said I looked like Ray Davies and referred to herself as "an unrepentant anglophile." Maybe that's where the confusion is coming from. I fucked her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giuseppe Zangara 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2006 I thought "rock music" was assumed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giuseppe Zangara 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2006 I mean, who cares about anything else the English have done, outside of beer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites